Skip to comments.Obamacare Architect Ezekiel Emanuel: Website Disaster Actually Fault of Fox News
Posted on 11/14/2013 5:20:00 PM PST by Kaslin
Over the years, lefties have blamed Fox News for all sorts of things. Now, via Obamacare architect Ezekiel Emanuel, we learn that the nations sole non-liberal television news operation is actually responsible for the HealthCare.gov debacle. In a debate with FNC host Megyn Kelly on her program last night, Ezekiel argued that Fox News Channel was really to blame for the fact that almost no one has signed up for the Obamacare insurance exchanges that are the center-piece of the law.
You and your colleagues were constantly criticizing, trying to underfund it and trying to make sure it didnt work, a very combative Emanuel ludicrously argued as Kelly pressed him on whether the Obama Administration actually knew that many people who had purchased health insurance in the individual market were going to lose their coverage thanks to mandates by the Affordable Care Act.
Its a self-fulfilling prophecy. Were going to try to do everything we can to make it fail and then when it fails, were going to say, oh why did it fail? Emanuel said.
In the discussion, Emanuel, who is the brother of former Obama Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, also provided a good example of challenging what he perceived as the biased statistics--something Republican television guests rarely do--as he refused to accept Kelly's claim that 5 million people who had purchased individual policies were going to be cancelled as a result of Obamacare. Emanuel preferred instead to talk about 3 million. Only on Fox is it 5 million, he insisted.
Watch the full segment below or continue reading for the relevant transcript.
Megyn Kelly Ezekiel Emanuel HEATED Over Obamacare Again: You Didn't Foresee Mass Cancellations?!
MEGYN KELLY: Five million people have already been cancelled. Im not talking about the 7 million you guys [unintelligible]--
EZEKIEL EMANUEL: Thats not a reliable number.
KELLY: Its at least 3 million. And the reports out today that its 5 million people who have been cancelled so far.
EMANUEL: Only on Fox is it 5 million.
KELLY: If that is the truth--OK fine. So lets go with 3 million. You can deny the problem all you want, sir.
KELLY: So 5 million people tonight by our numbers. If that is the case, (to producers) can we put the full screen back on the board? Then you need 156,000 people to sign up every day for the next 32 days just to break even. Thats not even talking about the 7 million you guys needed from the get-go to make Obamacare work.
EMANUEL: No, thats not right, Megyn. Youve got the numbers wrong. Seven million includes the people who were expected from the individual market to come on as well. So its not just 7 million and the number from the individual market, thats the first point.
The second point is that you have to remember the individual market before Obamacare, the insurance companies were cancelling people all the time. Thats one of the reasons we wanted the exchanges to work. And I agree with you, without the exchanges working, this cancellation policy is worrisome. It was worrisome before Obamacare, its worrisome today.
The key thing is to get the exchanges working to get the website working so those people have a place to go where theyll get better insurance at a more reasonable rate overall.
KELLY: OK theres a lot in your answer. Let me ask you this first. Are you admitting then that it was foreseen that the individual insurance market would essentially collapse and that that was a key facet of Obamacare working?
EMANUEL: Its not a matter of foreseeing. The insurance companies always cancelled policies before--
KELLY: It is a matter.
EMANUEL: They did it before. Now let me just--
KELLY: Now thats spin. You know as well as I do that the mass cancellations we have seen tonight are hurting a lot of Americans. Theyre very upset and their relationships with their doctor has been severed as a result of coverage in many instances.
There was further back and forth about the cancelled policies. Emanuel stuck to a legalistic argument that the Obamacare law did not actually force policies to be cancelled at all.
Kelly then asked Emanuel about his previous comments about how had originally recommended that the Obama Administration hire a single person to oversee the rollout of the new healthcare law rather than farm out the task to the existing government bureaucracy. After Emanuel said he still believed that such a person should have been hired, Kelly picked up the problem of the millions of cancelled individual insurance policies.
KELLY: Now I know you are loyal to the President and you dont want to criticize him but the--I dont understand why you cant just tell it to us straight. Should he have seen this? Why didnt they listen to you? Why wasnt there such a person appointed?
EMANUEL: There were differences about how they wanted to run it, and they decided to run it with people in CMS [Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services] having the charge for doing it. Remember, this was not an environment which was hospitable to setting up the exchanges.
KELLY: I know. And there was a lot of criticism--
EMANUEL: You, you and your colleagues were constantly criticizing, trying to underfund it and trying to make sure it didnt work.
KELLY: You know what, sir? A lot of that criticism proved true. A lot of that criticism proved true, unfortunately.
EMANUEL: Its a self-fulfilling prophecy. Were going to try to do everything we can to make it fail and then when it fails, were going to say, Oh why did it fail?
KELLY: What? I dont think Fox News had anything to do with the rollout of HealthCare.gov. As far as I know, we didnt touch that Web site. But listen, I want to talk to you about--
EMANUEL: You were constantly--
KELLY: All right it was our fault.
EMANUEL: --attacking the law and you were trying to make it underfunded.
KELLY: All right, Ill give you that one, too. It was all our fault.
Gays just don’t like attractive women, do they?
Was THAT not the essence of “pure Evil”??
I had nightmares!
Every right minded person knows President Hoover is at fault.
Just saw a couple clips on FOX. This clown is a real fruitcake. No wonder the ObamaScam debacle is such a mess. This was a train wreck waiting to happen as soon as they put this clown in charge. Swoosh!
I’m somewhat embarrassed to report this, but it is not Ezekials fault, Bush’s, Fox’s... it is my dog. Yes, she is at fault for the whole thing.
Yes, I know, kinda strange for one little golden retriever to be at fault of this $Trillion-dollar mess... but...
On her behalf, I apologize to the whole nation.
[she only can meekly say ‘woof’ about that]
Watch his interviews . do they make evil fruitcake? if so Ezekial is IT!
The bitch set this up.
OK libs . . . which is it?
They are all so powerful to cause OCare to roll out in such a disastrous manner?
Or they are Faux News spouting nonsense to the densest of Americans?
Obama’s Dr. Mengele. He’s even more vile and evil than his rotten, corrupt brother, Deadfish.
You know the liberals been behind closed doors brainstorming (which is hard to do when they are all brainless) a way to spin the Obamacare disaster (they wanted it to fail but not this fast and this spectacularly).
If all they can come up with is “people on the right said bad things about it which hurt its feelings and made it fail” they’ve got nothin’. Nothin’!
been = have been
Fruitcake is evil! LOL!
No, I thought it was Bush...LOL!
He was a couple of weeks ago on Fox news Sunday with Chris Wallace. He was rude and let the other guest hardly get a word in.
After what I saw tonight, I’d say that the boy do have some “issues”. He’s definitely not very bright.
Thinking about that evil creep could give you nightmares
Oh gosh! And we thought it was our labradoodle - we’ve been yelling at her all night.
This guy is pure evil.
If Fox had the power this clown gives to it then Obama would not be President, He would be impeached.
I believe when Ezekial was born his mother shook the piss out of him repeatedly. he definitely shows the signs of shaken baby syndrome.
Just one other thought . How would you like to be this Quacks patient.
Oh lovely- Kelly affirmed it was Fox’s fault, twice. Watch this being played as a television ad for elections.
Seriously, that was all she could say?
She couldn’t come back with Republicans tried to take out the grand-father clause years ago with the Obamacare act, but Dems refused to do so, and here we are with millions of Americans with cancelled insurance.
Dang- I could do her job...
She was way too kind to that steaming pile.
I agree! Was waiting for her to take his head off. What a total ass he is.
Goldens are the best medicine!
Damn straight...that is EXACTLY what he is.
Fox news lives rent free in the lib’s heads.
He looks rather poorly embalmed, if you ask me.
Gay doctor who loves DEATH and authors laws that end in DISASTER.
He actually is on the Death Panel.
Zeke is a creepy ghoul. Must be from the Soros branch of a Judaism.
At least the libs have moved beyond “It’s Bush’s fault”...
I thought the same thing while watching this lastnight - the personification of evil and would have fit in nicely as a member of Hitler's staff.
I like your resume!!
that wasnt heavy handed just sharply honed SARCASM
allowing Mark Levin to let blood....might be... considered..heavy handed in some circles.
ONE Emmanuel is enough...and he aint either RAHM...Or Ezekial
I think Leftists have a personality disorder and we the citizen are feeling the impact of it.
From the Mayo Clinic-
Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:
Believing that you’re better than others
Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
Exaggerating your achievements or talents
Expecting constant praise and admiration
Believing that you’re special and acting accordingly
Failing to recognize other people’s emotions and feelings
Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
Taking advantage of others
Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
Being jealous of others
Believing that others are jealous of you
Trouble keeping healthy relationships
Setting unrealistic goals
Being easily hurt and rejected
Having a fragile self-esteem
Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional
No, Zeke, you idiot! It was Al Jazeera’s fault.
And if it wasn’t their fault, it was NBC’s. And if it wasn’t their fault, it was CNN’s. And if it wasn’t their fault, it was Ed Schultz’s fault. And if it wasn’t his fault, it was Hillary’s fault.
Three quick points:
1.) Tyrant Obama cannot legally change the Obamacare Bill that he signed into Law.
Only the US Congress can legally change the Law, which then can be signed by Obama.
2.) The MANDATORY dictate in Obamacare is the only factor that is essential to that Federal Law.
Take out the MANDATORY dictate in Obamacare, and only the Federally subsidized, or chronically unhealthy will buy it.
What would be the incentive for increased consumer demand for policy purchase of a NON-MANDATORY Obama Socialized Health Insurance Tax (OSHIT) instead of purchasing a policy from a private insurance company?
3.) Will the House RINOs think of either of the above two points? I seriously doubt it.
This guy is a psycho, as is his vile brother Rahm. They may be ethincally Jewish, but lack a conscience or a soul. Same for Axelrod, Jarrett, Pfeiffer, Rice, the whole bunch. They deceive, lie, manipulate, corrupt, force, all without conscience or concern for the country or for anything other than their psychotic selfishness.
I saw Billy Graham’s special the other night. As a Catholic, I have always found him very relevant and close to God. He weeps for our country. We need to come back to God and renew our commitment to him through each other. That is the only real chance to undo the damage that these vulgarians of the Obama era have brought upon us. Apathy and distance from God empowers the likes of these sick people like Zeke Emanuel.
Eziekel is an unfriendly and arrogant piece of work, isn’t he?
The Rino’s via Fred “Lightbulb” Upton (D.MI.)
are going to walk right into the trap that Erik Ericcson predicted on Red State Yesterday!
Sorry, I don’t know how to post a link
BINGO! We have a winnah!
I too am RC by birth, but my church is buying this social justice b.s.
Not happy about that either.
These Emmanuel Brothers are the Devil’s Spawn, however.
So this guy was conceding the power of FOX News to do something like torpedo Obama’s signature accomplishment?
Would the community organizer have not anticipated the one organization that could torpedo his plans?
Do they really want to claim that FOX is more powerful than their social media like facebook, twitter, and all the rest, as well as all the other networks? Really?
I think that is the story here.
No use even arguing with a progressive. They will blame you when they lose the debate. They can never ever blame themselves. If they did, they would no longer be a progressive.
“Big Government can’t work if people say mean things about it. We have to regulate that freedom of speech thing.” - Efreakazoid Emanuel
David Cutler was just on Megyn’s show.
If he is a Zero advisor, we are efffed!
My Lab is 13 and smarter than this Maroon!
As a practicing Catholic, I understand and share the concern over the liberals of the church forcing left-wing ideologies upon the congregations. I tell people that true charity comes from the heart, not from government mandate. God gives us free will and appeals to our heart and soul to see him in others and perform charity. This corrupted form of charity that comes from government mandate invariably drives to corruption, because true charity has reciprocity.
Reciprocity means the recipient has accountability and responsibility for that what is given. We know that with government, those concepts do not exist and therein lay the seeds of corruption that grows like weeds.
He’s a piece of something.