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Posted on 11/14/2013 6:25:39 PM PST by moonshinner_09
Parents found guilty of murder after SECOND child dies from pneumonia because they prayed instead of seeking medical attention
A Philadelphia couple were found guilty of the third-degree murder of their son after pleading 'no contest today. Herbert and Catherine Schaible's 7-month-old son Brandon died last April 18 from dehydration and pneumonia when his parents decided to pray for him to get better rather than seek medical attention. At the time, the Schaibles were on 10-year probation for their 2-year-old son Kent's similar death in 2009. The terms of their probation required the Schaibles to seek medical attention any time one of their seven surviving children got sick.The fundamentalist Christian couple will face sentencing February 19 for their crime. 'I can't even imagine being a mother myself, what was happening,' Philadelphia prosecutor Joanne Pescatore said. 'The sheer pain and the stress that that child was in. When a parent can actually say that his breathing was worsening and he was fussy and whiny and crying and still, at that point, not calling anyone for help, it's just unbelievable to me - and totally foreseeable (that he died).' About a dozen U.S. children die each year when parents turn to faith healing instead of medicine, typically from highly treatable problems, according to experts.
Philadelphia District Attorney Seth Williams said the care was never given and decided to bring murder charges against the couple. Their remaining children have been placed in foster care. He is incarcerated because of his faith, said lawyer Bobby Hoof in May when the couple was ordered held without bail. He described client Herbert Schaible's mindset as resolute.
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sound like a hoax to me. Only a left winger would think a fundamentalist Christian would be stupid enough to simply pray for child to get better without going to the doctor first
Negligent homicide at most.
Just my opinion.
It plays to your stereotype too perfectly, which defy common sense, which makes me think its more likely a hoax than not
There are actually Christians who believe that if you or someone you care for dies it’s because of a lack of faith. They’re stupid. I have always been told “Pray and go to the doctor”.
It happens. Here in Oregon there have been both tragic deaths and near misses. What I don’t understand is where these beliefs have come from and for so long. Fifty years ago, there were more such instances. Two children in the Arizona town I came from died unnecessarily some sixty years ago. The charges were manslaughter as I recall. The parents were emotionally devastated but their misguided beliefs brought the tragedy on.
“sound like a hoax to me. Only a left winger would think a fundamentalist Christian would be stupid enough to simply pray for child to get better without going to the doctor first”
The are the “God will provide” bunch, which, I beleive, can happen on occasion (The Lord Moves in Mysterious ways).
However, the best thing I have ever heard a Clergyman tell me was:
“Faith moves mountains, bring a shovel”.
I’ve always remembered that.
Did it ever occur to them that taking the child to a doctor might be God’s answer?
Are they the ones who will say he/she is now in a better place, yet they grieve?
Nope, they’re bat poop crazy.
Isn’t that, in essence, Mary Baker Eddy’s Christian Science?
Believers grieve because when someone dies they leave an empty place in your life. We know they are in perfect Heaven but we’re still here.
It was in fact, in Superior, AZ at least.
That was a good answer in your post #15.
“I dont understand is where these beliefs have come from”
Until the use of antibiotics there wasn’t much difference in results between prayer and a doctor for treating diseases.
Thank you. I pay attention at our church group. That made sense. We also discussed that death is not natural. Man was never meant to die.
You’re right of course.
I don’t understand Christian Scientists IF this report is true. God gave us the ability to treat our medical problems, it’s not perfect because man is not perfect. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with praying but go to the Doctor.
Others on this thread have doubted the ‘accuracy’ of this report and I have to agree with them. It’s a perfect example of how the pagans view Christians. It would have been fine if they’d sacrificed something to Gaia; even celebrated.
It’s like Steve Jobs, he wanted to do that hippy diet for 9 months, fine, but follow your doctor’s recommendations too and he paid the ultimate price.
Later the water is up to his waist and another boat comes by and the guy tells him to get in again. He responds that he has faith in god and god will give him a miracle. With the water at about chest high, another boat comes to rescue him, but he turns down the offer again cause "God will grant him a miracle."
With the water at chin high, a helicopter throws down a ladder and they tell him to get in, mumbling with the water in his mouth, he again turns down the request for help for the faith of God. He arrives at the gates of heaven with broken faith and says to Peter, I thought God would grand me a miracle and I have been let down." St. Peter chuckles and responds, "I don't know what you're complaining about, we sent you three boats and a helicopter."
Drag the parents out and have them dangling by their broken necks under rope nooses a couple of times and this will stop.
Unfortunately, that is NOT the case. Have you not listened to Kenneth Copeland, Binny Hinn, Katherine Kuhlman, etc.? They deride the person who doesn’t get well for their lack of faith. You should listen to Joni Earickson-Tada’s testimony sometime.
I would not claim their churches to be fundamental. The media has done that to slander all conservative Christian churches with the same stroke. This practice in encouraged in MANY of the faith churches. Word of Faith, Health & Wealth, Name it and Claim it, etc. They are not really mainline churches, but they are mega-churches, for the most part. Creflo Dollar, etc., are some of the newer ones. Just google search and you’ll find dozens (maybe hundreds) of them.
Why is this in “Donutwatch”?