Skip to comments.Obamacare Architect: 'Could Be the Beginning of a Death Spiral'
Posted on 11/15/2013 7:10:40 AM PST by Evil Slayer
Harvard professor David Cutler, a so-called architect of Obamacare, says we "could be" witnessing "the beginning of a death spiral" for the unpopular health care bill. Cutler made the comments last night on Fox News:
"So when you were on last week I asked you, if they don't get enough people in the exchanges, then what happens?" said host Megyn Kelly. "And you said then the premiums go up very, very high. Now, was that ball put in motion today?"
"We don't know yet," said Cutler. "So what the president is trying to do is to say the website is not working, the exchanges are not working. Let's try and slow the process down and delay it by a year. And if it turns out to be a delay of a year, then we can work through that. It would be uncomfortable as it has been for the past month, but it will turn out okay. If it becomes a permanent situation that people who are healthier stay away and people who are sicker go into the exchanges, that becomes a very big problem."
"Is that the beginning of the so-called death spiral?"
"That could be the beginning of a death spiral," said Cutler. "That is, you could have a situation where the only people in the exchanges are very unhealthy people with very high premiums."
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To quote a recent pilot, "WE'RE GOING DOWN !!!"
Nice ear candy, I hope it’s true.
we need a Harvard Professor to play Captain Obvious?
“Is that the beginning of the so-called death spiral?”
I CERTAINLY HOPE SO!!!!!!!
Both for Obama, Obamacare and LIEberals, in general!
Obamacare case is being sent to a death panel to determine if it is worth the expense to save it.
The beginning of the death spiral was the day it became unpopular, he is simply seeing the nose down from the flat spin and heading down. A tenured professor writing American policy is clearly why it is a disaster.
Single payer here we come and too, tax the rich.
As unfortunate as this sounds, I think Americans ought not be shielded from some sizeable pain inflicted by Obamacare.
No one wants to see people suffer, but the hope is that there is enough suffering felt that wakes Americans up from their slumber and jars them to their senses!
Americans voted for Obama - twice - on the promise of hope and change and renewed liberalism. Let Americans feel the frontal impact of what Liberlism/Marxism really means.
Sometimes corporal punishment is warranted as a means of healthy correction.
And so begins ObamaCare II.
The turf’s first orbit of the bowl was the website rollout. The second orbit was the mass policy cancellations. Obama’s ‘fix’ is hopefully the last before it goes down the pipe.
We can only hope that the end of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 is nearing. The only honest part of that title is “2010”, everything else is a complete oxymoron and contradiction of reality. There is no “patient protection” and the care provided (if any) is clearly not in the affordable range.
A death spiral would be a mercy. The actual course of events will be several rescue missions sent up to spread a “safety net” which will inevitably fail and of course, a suicide squad will be sent in to try to get the perpetrators, er, victims of this failure to safety and to lift the onus of blame from them.
The impact will still be spectacular. And cause the greatest amount of damage short of a meteor strike.
You’ve nailed the one Silver Lining for Dems (and dark side for us).
They’ve managed to permanently expand the Medicaid rolls by at least 15%.
By manipulating the official “poverty line” I suspect they will continue to draw more and more into that program, just as they have with SNAP.
I think the turning point was when people who were in love with the idea started finding out they hate the reality.
Amen to that- people get the quality of government that they deserve. We have earned this fustercluck.
*** Sometimes corporal punishment is warranted as a means of healthy correction. ***
“The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly.”
- Abraham Lincoln
This is the problem with ALL collectivist schemes.
The takers sign up in droves,
and the makers have to be forced at gunpoint to join up to support them.
Agreed. Congress & Repubs need to call Obama on this latest decree.
No delays. No piecemeal changes. Repeal it entirely or strict enforcement. I favor the second so that people will learn their lesson, and kill the idea of socialism. Otherwise it will grow back.
Exactly right...All those who voted for this...person...have absolutely no voice to complain...
You did this not only to yourselves, but to ALL OTHER AMERICANS......
Those of you who voted for this...person...have aided in bringing OUR country to it’s knees...
Most of the “so called” republicans in Congress have done nothing at all to try and right this sinking ship called “America”...
Conservatives MUST take back our country or we are to become a page in history very, very soon...
O-care is like a zombie movie. The sick hunger for the healthy in order to survive.
Trouble is , it will bring down the economy with it.
Not just this particular socialist scheme, though -
ALL socialists schemes work out this way.
Somehow, human nature never seems to enter the equation in these supposedly superior intellectuals’ minds.
Agree 100%. Much more suffering is needed before we can put the nation on the correct trajectory.
I envision someone holding a gun and tying a rope to a long line of people,
then jumping off a cliff.
And since kids can now stay on their parents’ plans until they’re 26, we have substantially reduced the pool of those much-needed ‘healthy payers’.
It seems to me that based on the presidents statements yesterday and the egg heads statements here, what is evolving before our eyes is medicaid on steroids.
That is much of Obamacare will be trashed leaving only care for the very sick and the welfare riff raff that will replace going to the ER and paid for by all the rest, including the rich.
That is true. Also, it passed on a straight party-line vote, which is unprecedented for something so major. It was colossal arrogance for them to do this.
We had to have this law because 30 million people didnt have health insurance. 0care is designed so that we will only have 30 million insured, payed by taxpayers.
The administrations ace in the hole is the requirement to go in to the exchanges. Are the subsidy $$ fixed or can the govt. increase at will?
Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz previewed a new plan to repeal Obamacare and replace it with different health care reforms.
The only way to stop the problems is to admit this idea was fundamentally flawed to begin with, Cruz told Fox News Megyn Kelly. At this point, starting over, stopping Obamacare, is the essence of pragmatism.
Cruzs approach differs from some congressional Republicans and Democrats who are working to pass a bill delaying the Obamacare individual mandate or help Americans keep their current health care plans.
Cruz said that he would release a bill to empower Americans to purchase health insurance across state lines, creating a true national market. Insurance can only be purchased intra-state at present.
In the coming weeks, I intend to layout a plan to provide exactly that, a plan to repeal Obamacare altogether and at the same time expand options for five million-plus people, who have lost their health insurance and 300 million people across this country to expand their options to have affordable, personal, portable health care, Cruz said...........
It was unpopular on the day Reid and Pelosi used every parliamentary trick in the book to pass it. Those who forced this abomination upon the people will pay for it at the voting booth.
- picky picky picky
- Cutler said that Obamacare can take money from the “subsidies funds” and give it to the insurance companies to get them to go along beyond their contracted agreement
- Cutlet looked like a cornered rat when he was interviewed by Megyn Kelly on FNC
“And since kids can now stay on their parents plans until theyre 26, we have substantially reduced the pool of those much-needed healthy payers.”
EXCELLENT POINT! Were they really that stupid to make that provision? Or was that another way to get the young low information voters on board?
Agree with your assessment, bert. After a passage of time, taxes will not be sufficient and confiscation of our properties will have to kick in.
The political outcome will be expanded Medicade with higher income thresholds plus catastrophic care. Those under 400% of poverty level (e.g. $60,000 for a couple) plus the very sick will get either free or heavily subsidized health care. Everyone else will continue as before 2014. This will add three hundred billion to the annual federal deficit.
That 400% of poverty level is the population median. It splits the country in half. That’s music to a Democrat’s ears: 50% takers and 50% makers.
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