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Uh, oh: Detroit’s bankruptcy filing may be rejected
Hotair ^ | 11/15/2013 | Erika Johnsen

Posted on 11/15/2013 9:46:47 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: READINABLUESTATE

Today they’re just getting some of Obama’s BS. (Sebelius is in town to talk health care)


21 posted on 11/15/2013 10:21:56 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind
“Detroit will be at the mercy of its creditors in individual lawsuits spread amongst federal and state courts. That chaos alone could doom the city.”

Come on judge...throw Detroit in that thar briar patch...
22 posted on 11/15/2013 10:23:44 AM PST by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Those able to pay taxes can easily LEAVE the cities for the suburbs, or relocate to a friendlier state”

I think they have already been through that step.


23 posted on 11/15/2013 10:24:50 AM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: skimbell

“Cities/states have taxing ability. “

Taxing more than places where people could relocate to is what got them in this mess. Also, residents are no longer paying their property taxes. The only business of note still in Detroit is GM’s headquarters. I suspect they have a sweetheart deal to stay there.


24 posted on 11/15/2013 10:25:42 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: alancarp

kick the can.......


25 posted on 11/15/2013 10:27:04 AM PST by is_is (VP Dad of Sgt. G - My Hero - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: count-your-change
"Eighteen billion dollars? Don’t worry about it, it’s not due today."

The problem is that with a debt that large, the debt service will probably amount to $400-600 million a year, at least.
26 posted on 11/15/2013 10:29:24 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: count-your-change
Eighteen billion dollars? Don’t worry about it, it’s not due today.

Washington, DC: Seventeen trillion dollars? Don’t worry about it, it’s not due today.

27 posted on 11/15/2013 10:32:45 AM PST by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: Night Hides Not

Detroit is a scale model of D.C. it’s just a matter of time before they end up with similar results.


28 posted on 11/15/2013 10:35:52 AM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hmm... So what just might happen then is the city is dissolved, assets are turned over to the county to sell off to pay what debt they can, and then everyone else gets screwed, 0 pension, 0 city jobs, etc. Methinks the unions need to work with the city more.


29 posted on 11/15/2013 10:44:43 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: skimbell
Cities/states have taxing ability. I'm sure that they don't want to exercise this ability to the extent needed to generate the funds that they need (political suicide) but they do have that option.

Michigan and Detroit taxes are already so high that the population and the business base has been abandoning the city for decades. Tax increases merely exacerbate the problem. They solve nothing.

They also can sell city parks, community centers, athletic complexes etc. Probably not an action that most elected officials would want to be a part of, but it would be a way out.

Sell to whom? There are literally THOUSANDS of homes and properties in the Detroit area that can be bought for $1... and nobody is buying. Nobody wants to live in this Democrat paradise, and nobody wants to buy or build or relocate there.

Instead, LOWER taxes, and remove most of the oppressive Democrat anti-business regulations and rules, and Detroit might have a chance. Slicing the union pensions and benefits would improve those chances. Nothing else, short of a massive bailout, can possibly work.

30 posted on 11/15/2013 10:47:17 AM PST by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder
I think you are bringing up very important points.

Theoretically and historically, the appointment of a judge, master or arbitrator has been to bring fairness and confidence into the resolution of a contract when it is impossible for all contractual obligations to be fulfilled.

Lately these positions may be held by politically biased individuals (either way), thus bringing instability back into the process.

We (and Detroit) are between a rock and a hard place.

31 posted on 11/15/2013 10:53:07 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It should be. There is a lot of stuff to be liquidated, starting with a very valuable art collection...


32 posted on 11/15/2013 11:15:18 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: RepRivFarm
The problem with bankruptcy law and Rule of Law today is.....

THERE ISN'T ANY!

We used to be a nation that lived by the rules of law, until the law makers and law enforcers became the biggest law-breakers. The laws are now unequally applied (I don't like that law, so I'll ignore it, and the one's I like won't apply to me..! --- Federal Government), Ignorned, and now anarchy is rearing its ugly head...

33 posted on 11/15/2013 12:36:02 PM PST by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: READINABLUESTATE
They just need some of Obama’s “stash”. /s :)

Problem is, Obama's stash is mutating into something strange...


34 posted on 11/15/2013 12:45:04 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: SeekAndFind

There can be no good faith negotiations with unions because they have no good faith.


35 posted on 11/15/2013 12:48:00 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: SeekAndFind

“owing more than $18 billion in debt “

Can we make payments? We’ve been out of work.


36 posted on 11/15/2013 12:50:23 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: skimbell

Detroit taxes are already at the maximum state law will allow. They can’t increase taxation!


37 posted on 11/15/2013 1:23:35 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

They’ll have to find a way to levy user fees and non-user fees too.


38 posted on 11/15/2013 1:24:17 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: skimbell

Detroit taxes are already at the maximum state law will allow. They can’t increase taxation!


39 posted on 11/15/2013 1:24:52 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: GeronL

IIRC from their bankruptcy filing, they already have most of those set to beyond extortionate levels.


40 posted on 11/15/2013 1:25:57 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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