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Senate won't bring Upton fix to the floor [cool!]
TheHill ^ | 11/15/13

Posted on 11/15/2013 12:18:43 PM PST by Bulwinkle

Edited on 11/15/2013 12:30:18 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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ObamaCare is a tax .... Everything has to start in the house
1 posted on 11/15/2013 12:18:43 PM PST by Bulwinkle
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To: Bulwinkle

Good. Now let’s see CRUZ’ PLAN.


2 posted on 11/15/2013 12:19:51 PM PST by struggle
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To: Bulwinkle

Love it when a plan comes together. Probably the gop/e.


3 posted on 11/15/2013 12:21:13 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: struggle
CLUSTER ____ ! Add your own word.
4 posted on 11/15/2013 12:22:16 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: struggle
Just heard on Dana Radio that Cruz's bill does what Upton's Bill does PLUS strips the insurance company bailout!!!!

Perfect, these insurance crony capitalist do not deserve a bailout. They wanted the upside of ObamaCare, but if it did not work out, they got a bailout.

Now the Rats who are blaming the insurance companies, they should be on board with getting rid of the bailout!!

5 posted on 11/15/2013 12:22:59 PM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Bulwinkle

Tell that to Justice Roberts.


6 posted on 11/15/2013 12:23:10 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Bulwinkle

Republicans should not be looking for ways to help Obama.


7 posted on 11/15/2013 12:23:51 PM PST by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: Bulwinkle

GOOD! The idiot Boehner and his worthless GOPe cronies need to get a brain and keep their hands out of this disaster.

The Dems are imploding and the citizens, even the LIVs, are blaming them. If the Republicans put their name to anything dealing with this mess they will then get hit with the total blame when it finally collapses.


8 posted on 11/15/2013 12:23:54 PM PST by OldMissileer
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Did you think the House thought Reid would take it up?

No. They did not.

But now close to 40 Democrats are on record as backing the legislative fix. And more in the Senate want it as well. Bad news for Hairy Reid.

9 posted on 11/15/2013 12:24:21 PM PST by what's up
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To: Iron Munro

If this helps Obama, why does he want to veto it?


10 posted on 11/15/2013 12:25:11 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

Because he is an petulant, arrogant ass who does not want people telling him what to do.


11 posted on 11/15/2013 12:27:20 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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because the friend of my enemy is my enemy


13 posted on 11/15/2013 12:28:21 PM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Bulwinkle

By Alexander Bolton - 11/15/13 02:48 PM EST

Senate Democrats do not expect to vote on the ObamaCare fix the House approved on Friday with 39 Democratic votes, according to a senior Democratic aide.

The aide said there is not any pressure on the Senate Democratic leadership to bring the legislation sponsored by Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) to the floor.

“There is a difference between constructive fixes designed to improve the law and bills that would gut it,” said the senior Democratic aide. “The Upton bill is the latter.”


14 posted on 11/15/2013 12:28:46 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Bulwinkle


15 posted on 11/15/2013 12:29:38 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: what's up

That might be why Harry wouldn’t allow it to be brought up - he didn’t want to see who would defect.


16 posted on 11/15/2013 12:29:47 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Bulwinkle

So what is Sen. Mary Landrieu going to do? She has to find someone in the House... And the house won’t pass (or even bring up for a vote) anything a Democrat sponsors!


17 posted on 11/15/2013 12:30:39 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Bulwinkle

In case anyone who was wondering how Obama could wave his magic dictator’s wand and “allow” insurance companies to offer continuation of non-compliant (illegal) policies: he can’t. Not really. He can’t make the policies legal, but what he can do is tell the insurance companies he won’t prosecute them for offering illegal policies. So Obama is telling the insurance companies: “Don’t worry, it’s OK to issue illegal policies because I promise my administration won’t prosecute you.” In other words, Obama can’t make the policies legal, so he’s encouraging the insurance companies to break the law.

So encouraging the insurance companies to break the law is “Obama’s Big Fix”! So how’s that for great health insurance reform? Oh, yeah, and what a wonderful way to govern the country: encourage law-breaking. Given the example this President sets, why should anyone else feel compelled to follow the law about anything?

On the other hand, we all know that “Obama’s Big Fix” is impossible. State insurance commissioners are saying “NO”, and the insurance companies won’t issue illegal polices anyway due to massive liability issues. Oh, and what happens in case anyone does get to buy such an illegal policy? They’d still have to pay the “fine” because they won’t have Obamacare-compliant polices and the President didn’t give those people any “prosecutorial discretion”.

Besides, Obama himself said the reason for “Obama’s Big Fix” is ““What we want to do is to be able to say to these folks, you know what, the Affordable Care Act is not going to be the reason why insurers have to cancel your plan.”

That’s just plain despicable. Absolutely despicable. Coming up with a health care plan that requires encouraging companies to break the law, yet knowing the call to illegality is actually impossible anyway, and then on top of doing that, doing it solely to shift blame from himself and the Democrats that passed this monstrosity.

Mortally ill people who’ve lost their insurance and their doctors will soon be dying because of Obamacare. Ted Cruz needs to gather a couple of dozen of these poor souls from around the nation, and hold a press conference with them surrounding him, and declare: “Mr. President, let’s tear down this Obamacare now! It’s time to repeal this monstrosity. Too many innocent people are dying already. Let’s stop the horror before more are killed by it.”


18 posted on 11/15/2013 12:31:19 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Resolute Conservative
The correct answer is that Obama is afraid there will be a stampede to buy the old plans without mandates.

And that would be not only hugely embarrassing for him, it would help destroy O-care.

19 posted on 11/15/2013 12:31:59 PM PST by what's up
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To: Bulwinkle

Good. Let OCare Die a Painful Death. Let the Dem’s reap what they sow. I feel bad for many Americans, but many of those American’s either voted for the Dem’s and O OR they stayed home, so I’m very stingy with my sympathy, I don’t give it lightly.


20 posted on 11/15/2013 12:32:02 PM PST by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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