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Married man who raped girl three times starting when she was
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 15 November 2013 | RYAN GORMAN

Posted on 11/16/2013 6:01:14 AM PST by moonshinner_09

Married man who raped girl three times starting when she was only 14-years-old WILL NOT go to prison despite convictions

An Alabama man will not go to prison despite being convicted of three counts of rape dating back to when his victim was only 14-years-old. Austin Clem, 25, raped the young girl three times between the ages of 14 and 18-years-old and will spend two years in a reform program and three years on probation instead of being locked up. Mr Clem will also have to register as a sex offender, but the slap on the wrist outraged many in the courtroom. ‘This isn't legal. It's not a legal sentence,’ Ms Andrews, now 20, told AL.com DA Jim Ayers jumped up in court and said. Mr Clem was convicted of one count of first-degree rape for the most recent incident two years ago, and two counts of second-degree rape for the two encounters when she was just 14-years-old. Sentencing guidelines provide for sentences anywhere from 10 to 99 years in prison, but Mr Clem will never see the inside of a cell. ‘My family was very relieved to hear the three guilty verdicts,’ Courtney’s father Richard Andrews told AL.com. ‘We were floored to hear the judge hand down such a light sentence.’ The convicted rapist will instead spend two years in a reform program administered by the county jail, but intended to keep non-violent offenders out of prison.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alabama; donutwatch; rapist
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Is this still the United States Of America or what? His lawyer said he will endure hardships such as not being able to drink alcohol at parties or cross state lines to buy lottery tickets, the attorney explained. The Judge thinks rapists are non-violent offenders.
1 posted on 11/16/2013 6:01:14 AM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

http://www.limestonecounty-al.gov/LC_Circuit_Judges.html

The MF judge ought to be easy to find.


2 posted on 11/16/2013 6:09:43 AM PST by BilLies ("Will none rid me of this lying bastard ?")
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To: moonshinner_09

Save your outrage for the 45 year old “teachers” preying on 14 year old boys in our schools.

I am not excusing Clems actions, but I guarantee this was mutual.

High school girls have always dated college guys.


3 posted on 11/16/2013 6:12:29 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: moonshinner_09

“This isn’t legal. It’s not a legal sentence,’ Ms Andrews, now 20,”

Clems is 24.

This is he said she said.


4 posted on 11/16/2013 6:18:03 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: moonshinner_09

The “Homosexual agenda” is bearing its disgusting fruit.


5 posted on 11/16/2013 6:18:10 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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25


6 posted on 11/16/2013 6:19:48 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: BenLurkin

What the hell does this have to do with that?


7 posted on 11/16/2013 6:20:46 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: BenLurkin

What are you talking about?


8 posted on 11/16/2013 6:21:41 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

If it was consensual, she sure doesn’t act like it. She’s pretty outraged. And you see no problem with a man even coercing a 14 y/o girl into having sex? Really?


9 posted on 11/16/2013 6:25:21 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: mylife
I am not excusing Clems actions, but I guarantee this was mutual.

Even if she came on to him, at 14, she was not legally able to give consent. He was the adult and should have thwarted any advances, even up to notifying family members that she was coming on to him.

10 posted on 11/16/2013 6:25:48 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: mylife

11 posted on 11/16/2013 6:26:29 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Austin Clem, 25, raped the young girl three times between the ages of 14 and 18-years-old

The sentence is BS....but, this guy raped her three times over four years...four years ?

What happened the first and second time her raped her ?

Someone is fishy about this story...

12 posted on 11/16/2013 6:28:25 AM PST by Popman
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To: moonshinner_09
She also fears for the perverts young children. ‘The judge still chooses to send him home to his three little girls,’ said Ms Andrews. ‘I don't understand that. I can't fathom that.’

This gal is Effed up.

So according to her, since she gave it up when they were young, Clem is a pedophile and Now she says he is incestuous as well?

BAH!!

13 posted on 11/16/2013 6:28:25 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: moonshinner_09

This jerk will most likely offend again. He is a dirt bag that one day will encounter a woman with a gun and his life will change


14 posted on 11/16/2013 6:28:32 AM PST by Nifster
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To: moonshinner_09

Sounds like statutory rape, and the last occasion, when she was 18, buyer’s remorse. A 19 year old man (his age when she was 14) shouldn’t have relations with a 14 year old girl, agreed. I just didn’t see any evidence of forcible rape. It appears that since there were only three occasions that he hardly stalked her. After the last encounter he may have told her that he wasn’t leaving his wife, and she got her dander up and used the rape card for vengeance.


15 posted on 11/16/2013 6:29:12 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: Popman

Stinks bad.


16 posted on 11/16/2013 6:30:05 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

And the law is very clear a 14 year old cannot give consent.

Of course people are outraged at teachers abusing children. That is such a straw man and so not on point. your sense of outrage seems to be very very selective. Plus your ‘knowledge’ of high school girls is stereotypical and mostly untrue


17 posted on 11/16/2013 6:30:29 AM PST by Nifster
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To: moonshinner_09
A kinder gentler justice system, for the criminal of coarse. Where is punishment in the phrase crime and punishment? If the judges daughter or wife was raped we would see a different picture wouldn't we? hypocrite rat bastards who need thier judgeship limited or revoked
18 posted on 11/16/2013 6:30:45 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: BenLurkin

What does that have to do with this very real story about heterosexual sex?


19 posted on 11/16/2013 6:32:27 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Nifster

I understand the violation of the older one teaching the younger one,while using your position to violate the other, but when the gap is just a few years, I say suck it up and learn.

Both of ya.

I don’t believe this was rape.

But I am just looking at the fishbowl.


20 posted on 11/16/2013 6:37:42 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Nifster
And the law is very clear a 14 year old cannot give consent.

Hardly.

Planned Parenthood can abort a 14 year old's baby with no rape investigation.

A 14 year old can even have sex legally with someone "near" his/her age (that doesn't work for buying cigarettes or alcohol, 2 days shy "of age" you are still in full violation).

21 posted on 11/16/2013 6:38:34 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I agree


22 posted on 11/16/2013 6:39:04 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: ronnie raygun

So what is the judge to do.

Damn any man that would tap his daughter to death?


23 posted on 11/16/2013 6:41:04 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Gosh, FRiend, I don’t know how to explain it better than that cartoon does.

Societal acceptance of “gay marriage” has accelerated societal acceptance of additional depravities.

The judge in this case has essentially forgiven this man’s sexual violation of a child.

Decent people derided Whoopi Goldberg for her “wasn’t rape-rape” view, but unfortunately turns out she was just ahead of the curve.


24 posted on 11/16/2013 6:42:23 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: a fool in paradise

and this story isn’t about any of those things....

quit trying to find straw men to argue about


25 posted on 11/16/2013 6:42:55 AM PST by Nifster
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To: moonshinner_09
...but intended to keep non-violent offenders out of prison.

Huh!? Okay, there has to be a payoff somewhere.

5.56mm

26 posted on 11/16/2013 6:43:17 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

When I saw his name was “Austin Clem” I just knew.

The picture at the link confirmed my suspicion.


27 posted on 11/16/2013 6:45:49 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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I think the judge is correct in this, they were only 5 years apart in age and this gal is a pill.

Clem will bear the brunt of this, and I hope he learns a lesson.

This gal better wise up.
She is on record.
She accuses Clem of molesting his daughters?

BAH!


28 posted on 11/16/2013 6:46:50 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Nifster

Planned Parenthood was busted repeatedly on tape coaching young girls to LIE about their adult partners.

You said that the law is clear on this matter. Not so.


29 posted on 11/16/2013 6:52:03 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: BenLurkin

Well my FRiend, teens have been screwing since the dawn of time.

I think this judge recognizes that it takes two to tango.
I think he let the gal off light and Clem will bear that burden, but she had better not push the issue.

I can see that she is a vindictive nasty thing, accusing him of raping his children with no proof.

Jeez

There is a reason I am celibate.


30 posted on 11/16/2013 6:52:17 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: moonshinner_09

“The Judge thinks rapists are non-violent offende”

If it wee in my power, I would house this rapist next door to his grandhildren.


31 posted on 11/16/2013 6:52:34 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: mylife
such pathetic BS.......typical behavior of some like you...blame the victim first!..

I guarentee you're pretty much a jerk.....

32 posted on 11/16/2013 6:53:20 AM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: cherry

Yeah, I’m a real asshole.


33 posted on 11/16/2013 6:55:33 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

I expect there is more to this than we will ever know.

Anyone notice how the article stated ages?

Nowhere does it point out his age (19) at the time of the first episode when she was 14. It says, he *is* 25 and she *was* 14. The average numbnuts reader can’t do the math and sees 25 yo rapes 14 yo. This wording is not accidental, nor is it insignificant.

By deliberately making the age difference appear greater, the paper is doing a disservice to the truth (whatever it is in this case).

I’m not minimizing the potential offense here, but this piece is a sketchy and poorly written tabloid story. It refers to him in bold type as “the pervert”. With what little we know here, “pervert” is pushing it.

Note that a big deal is made about the safety of his 3 female children. Curiously, none of their ages are mentioned. Now there is a real leap. Idiot 19 yo male boinks 14 yo girl (whom we know nothing about at that time) and this magically translates into a 25 yo man wanting to sexually assault his own daughters who are probably under the age of 5?


34 posted on 11/16/2013 6:57:42 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: cherry

All I am saying is Courtney is no angel.
She had better be careful with this statutory crap.
She is 20 now and making accusations.

Is she seriously bandying about the notion that because Clem boofed her when she was 14 and he was 18 or whatever, that ergo he is raping his 2 or 3 year old daughters?

Seriously?

Courtney is NO ANGEL


35 posted on 11/16/2013 7:01:55 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: cherry

Before you flame me for my post #34, realize my comments are not about rape & underage sex, but this article, its deficiencies and prejudices as well as the lack of background information.

This is very poor “journalism”. Are we not allowed to point that out because of the nature of the story?


36 posted on 11/16/2013 7:03:28 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Thank you for seeing through the hype.

Still I am not excusing Clem.


37 posted on 11/16/2013 7:05:53 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

recognition that you have a problem is the first to a cure.


38 posted on 11/16/2013 7:08:13 AM PST by BilLies ("Will none rid me of this lying bastard ?")
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To: cherry

“such pathetic BS.......typical behavior of some like you...blame the victim first!..”

Get your head out of your back side, this was a statutory rape case between a 19 and 14 year old. Legally she may not have given consent but you can bet this was consensual. The mans life has been destroyed by this, there is no need to fill the jails up with people that are no danger to anyone. Try to get a little perspective on life rather than start spouting feminists slogans like “blame the victim” which has been used to justify all sorts of injustices against men.


39 posted on 11/16/2013 7:08:22 AM PST by trapped_in_LA
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To: BilLies

Garsh I stand humbly before you hat in hand...

Bless your heart.


40 posted on 11/16/2013 7:10:24 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: BilLies

“recognition that you have a problem is the first to a cure.”

You should look in the mirror when saying that.


41 posted on 11/16/2013 7:12:11 AM PST by trapped_in_LA
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To: moonshinner_09

Oh-kay. If someone in that state carries out some street justice, would a jury convict them? Since he is a registered sex offender, he should be easy to find, and with a minimum of fuss or evidence he could be dangling from a tree in short order.

All that would be needed is some rope that is several years old, with no remainder left behind, soaked in bleach solution to destroy any residual DNA, and afterwards to dispose of any old shoes and clothing worn. After soaking it, of course.

It would be a nice touch to hang a sign from his neck, which simply says “RAPIST” on it.


42 posted on 11/16/2013 7:13:35 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (War on Terror news at rantburg.com)
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To: mylife
Still I am not excusing Clem.

Obviously, nor am I.

I do get frustrated by folks who think that because of the seriousness of the crime, we should be castigated for some logical analysis of the somewhat meager facts and the prejudicial manner in which said facts are presented.

Critical thinking should not be put on hold because the word rape is in the story.

43 posted on 11/16/2013 7:13:45 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

It just gets ridiculous when some woman calls “rape” and the men folk say get a rope


44 posted on 11/16/2013 7:16:52 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Street justice sucks.
That is why we have courts.


45 posted on 11/16/2013 7:18:59 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Pharmboy

You never coerced a teenage girl?

When you where a Teen?

I just hope Clem learns his lesson and that Courtney learns her lesson.

R.E.S.P.E.C.T.


46 posted on 11/16/2013 7:23:47 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Not when I was 18 and she 14. Ever.


47 posted on 11/16/2013 7:26:54 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

And I understand the irony of placing faith in the courts.

In this case I think the judge got it right, though If I was the judge I would have given Courtney some community service as well, least we create a monster.


48 posted on 11/16/2013 7:29:02 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Pharmboy

17 14?


49 posted on 11/16/2013 7:29:38 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Pharmboy

Clem was a doofus, NO DOUBT about it.

He is growing up fast.

I hope Courtney grows up too.


50 posted on 11/16/2013 7:31:25 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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