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Shocking dashcam video shows the moment two cops open fire on
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 17 November 2013 | RYAN GORMAN

Posted on 11/17/2013 9:12:06 AM PST by moonshinner_09

Shocking dashcam video shows the moment two cops open fire on a car being driven by a mom with CHILDREN in the back as she fled the scene after a heated altercation

A shocking dashcam video shows the moment a New Mexico state trooper opened fire on a minivan with five children inside after a route traffic stop went horribly wrong. Now the New Mexico State Police have opened an investigation into the conduct of the troopers - and driver Rihanna Ferrell and her 14-year-old son are facing charges. The traffic stop took place south of Taos, New Mexico, on October 28 - but it has sparked local outrage after the video from a state police dashcam went public. SCROLL DOWN FOR VIDEO

Footage shows the officer casually walk up to the vehicle and begin speaking with the driver. When the officer walks away, presumably to run the license and registration and decide whether to write a ticket, the van takes off. A short chase ensues before the driver again relents and the van makes its way to the side of the road.

The officer at this point has had enough. He storms up to and opens the driver’s side door while ordering the driver out of the vehicle. She refuses and a struggle ensues as children inside the Ford can be heard screaming. The driver’s son, 14, according to ABC News, gets out of the van but thinks better of the idea as the cop pulls a Taser on him.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; newmexico; shooting
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At firs I thought this was a review of movie plot ? Good gosh, this sounds like a case of shoot first answer questions later.
1 posted on 11/17/2013 9:12:06 AM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

None of this would happened if the mother - who is clearly an idiot - had not taken off after first being pulled over. She would have gotten a ticket or a warning only.


2 posted on 11/17/2013 9:16:50 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

“The traffic stop took place south of Taos, New Mexico, on October 28 - but it has sparked local outrage after the video from a state police dashcam went public. “

What’s the outrage? The driver was agreed, an imbecile and didn’t it even occur to her that she had kid/s with her? A ticket is a ticket. Either argue your case with the cop or argue it in traffic court. But don’t effing’ drive away.


3 posted on 11/17/2013 9:22:51 AM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: moonshinner_09
Mom...had a bad attitude...Probably pissed some honky police pulled her over...

Really stupid of her to pull away when pulled over...she would have gotten a speeding ticket...

All that said...it unconscionable for the police to open fire on a moving van with children in it...

What in the hell type of training are these police getting ?

4 posted on 11/17/2013 9:23:17 AM PST by Popman
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To: moonshinner_09

I don’t think they should have opened fire. That was not the way to go with kids in the vehicle. The officers should answer for that. They should lose their jobs and perhaps face prosecution.

As for the mother, SHE put her children in danger when she refused to cooperate with the officers on scene. What the hell woman? You’ve got your family in the car. You are putting your kids in danger.

If the officers are catching you having done something you don’t want to get caught for, you have to put that aside and bite the bullet. Your kids are at risk you idiot.

I hope they throw the book at her as well. The son was put in a very awkward situation. I wouldn’t go after him tooth and nail.


5 posted on 11/17/2013 9:23:48 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: vladimir998

Not her fault. Obviously it was white-hispanic officers that were the cause of the whole altercation. Kind of like what happened with the angel tray-boy-eee martin except gz was just a wanna be cop. Tracked down and shot at without any sort of provocation. Almost looked like one of the “lyin’ king’s” sons getting out of the van. Didn’t look like NM plates either so they were an easy target for the NMSP.


6 posted on 11/17/2013 9:25:10 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: moonshinner_09

The one thing that bothered me was the officer shooting at the vehicle as it was taking off, knowing there were children in the van.

On further reflection, the driver probably should not be allowed to drive a car on public streets. She acted very foolishly. This could have become a very ugly incident in a very short time.


7 posted on 11/17/2013 9:28:16 AM PST by bubbacluck (America 180)
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To: moonshinner_09

Stupid mother. Stupider cops. They need to find another occupation.


8 posted on 11/17/2013 9:28:39 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: moonshinner_09; Alaska Wolf

She should have held out for the colonoscopy special.


9 posted on 11/17/2013 9:31:20 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: moonshinner_09

It looks like just one of the cops opened fire, one of the guys who arrived for backup.

He should lose his job.

The mom should go to jail.


10 posted on 11/17/2013 9:31:53 AM PST by marron
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To: Starstruck

Yes, this does sound like a situation where both parties acted stupidly. The only reason to fire at a car with kids in it is to save someone or yourself’s life. Because a crazy driver is speeding away is no reason to fire at it.


11 posted on 11/17/2013 9:33:37 AM PST by driftless2
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To: null and void

On the fourth day of Christmas NMPD gave to me
Four digital probes
Three enemas
Two x-rays
and a col-on-os-scopy


12 posted on 11/17/2013 9:35:16 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Starstruck

Agree, cops in jail for 10 years, mother striped permanently of driving privileges.


13 posted on 11/17/2013 9:35:18 AM PST by Bobalu (Socialism - trickle up poverty.)
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These kinds of incidents are far too common


14 posted on 11/17/2013 9:35:52 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: vladimir998

Dude, there were kids in that van. There is no excuse for the cops opening fire.


15 posted on 11/17/2013 9:39:03 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: moonshinner_09

While the mother was clearly wrong in taking off and resisting arrest, she should also be charged with endangering the children.

The cops? Have they not got helicopters in New Mexico? Or spike belts? Both would be far safer than shooting at children in a moving vehicle! Maybe there was a dog on board, which would explain much of the cop’s actions!


16 posted on 11/17/2013 9:39:52 AM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was lost but now I'm found; blind but now I see.)
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To: moonshinner_09
I wonder how many bullet holes were found in the back of the van. "Some" or "none" will each tell a story.

Leni

17 posted on 11/17/2013 9:41:14 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: jwalsh07

“Dude, there were kids in that van.”

And that’s exactly why the dumbass mother should not have raced off (twice) after being pulled over by the police.

“There is no excuse for the cops opening fire.”

I didn’t say there was. But that mother is a threat to her own children because she’s incredibly stupid and irresponsible.


18 posted on 11/17/2013 9:42:35 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: Starstruck
Stupid mother. Stupider cops. They need to find another occupation.

Preferably an occupation involving the question, "Do you want fries with that?"

19 posted on 11/17/2013 9:42:52 AM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was lost but now I'm found; blind but now I see.)
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To: vladimir998

So we agree. Stupid x 2.


20 posted on 11/17/2013 9:45:27 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: vladimir998

Radios work better than guns in a situation like this.

Does the term excessive force mean anything.


21 posted on 11/17/2013 9:48:18 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: vladimir998

More news you won’t see in the US News...maybe the conservative UK media and Russia could start up a modern “Radio Free America” for us...

But I don’t know what was going on in the minds of these cops, who clearly are a public danger with any weapons in their possession, law enforcement officers or not. I was thinking that MAYBE, they would try to shoot out the tires of the van. At that distance, in that situation - really? Seriously?


22 posted on 11/17/2013 9:52:47 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Popman

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3092312/posts?page=33#33


23 posted on 11/17/2013 9:59:58 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: moonshinner_09

The latest installment of “Cops Gone Wiiiiild!”


24 posted on 11/17/2013 10:01:03 AM PST by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Everyone involved (driver and cops) should go to prison for a very long time.


25 posted on 11/17/2013 10:04:40 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: vladimir998
Right, cause we all know 'speeding' is such a serious offense that it justifies shooting children or causing a shot driver to plow head-on into another vehicle.

I have no sympathy for the idiot black woman, but to fire multiple shots at a van full of children driving away on a public roadway with traffic is simply inexcusable.

This isn't a roadblock in Iraq, and US police need to stop acting like an occupying army.

26 posted on 11/17/2013 10:05:01 AM PST by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: moonshinner_09

They got what they asked for.


27 posted on 11/17/2013 10:05:38 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: max americana

THE OUTRAGE IS THAT A COP OPENNED FIRE ON A VAN FULL OF KIDS WITHOUT JUSTIFICATION.

Was the driver stupid? Yes. But that does not justify the jackboot’a actions!


28 posted on 11/17/2013 10:06:36 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Starstruck

Yup.


29 posted on 11/17/2013 10:07:49 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: jwalsh07

Yes, we agree. The cops should be fired and the mother should lose her children (at least temporarily).


30 posted on 11/17/2013 10:07:52 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
None of this would happened if the mother - who is clearly an idiot - had not taken off after first being pulled over. She would have gotten a ticket or a warning only.

Well she probably heard about those anal searches that the New Mexico cops were doing and wanted to keep them away from her children. Can't say I blame her.

31 posted on 11/17/2013 10:08:04 AM PST by sportutegrl (Go suck on a slurpee, Obama)
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To: moonshinner_09

After watching the video, it looked to me like the cops were doing fine, until that johnny come lately ran up and started firing into the car.

My computer is terrible, but if I saw it correctly, the shooter is the only one in trouble.


32 posted on 11/17/2013 10:09:29 AM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: t1b8zs

“Does the term excessive force mean anything.”

That reminds me of something my father always said: “You can’t outrun a radio.”


33 posted on 11/17/2013 10:09:41 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: piytar

Well, this dumbass shouldn’t have driven off in the first place, right? Hey, I’m not a fan of cops either. The only things they’re good at are donuts and chalk lines.


34 posted on 11/17/2013 10:15:29 AM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Popman

I totally agree. It was criminal, firing on a vehicle with children inside. Criminal!

They could easily just followed her and waited for her to stop down the rad. There was no reason to shoot at the car with children inside.

But I tell you, the police will back each other up on this. Just wait.


35 posted on 11/17/2013 10:15:53 AM PST by rawhide
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To: max americana

Oh I agree she is a dumbass. As posted up thread, both she and the cop should go to prison for a LONG time!


36 posted on 11/17/2013 10:18:29 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: pierrem15
US police need to stop acting like an occupying army

Agreed. I don't know what excuse the cop is going to come up with, but here's my guess as to what really happened.

When the driver sped away, the cop felt disrespected and a bit humiliated. The only appropriate response was to shoot at the car, and perhaps hit the driver, or a child, in the back of the head. That will teach the survivors a little respect!

37 posted on 11/17/2013 10:19:20 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Sometimes I think we would all be better off if cops are disarmed. In this case the cops might have thought there was a dog in the care with the kids.

The mom is too stupid to be a mom.


38 posted on 11/17/2013 10:20:05 AM PST by pallis
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To: ansel12
I agree no reason for shooting at the vehicle very bad judgment on that officer part.

Other wise the problem was a poor mistreated black women who did nothing wrong except getting pulled over by the big bad police /S.

How dare they pull her over for some thing a mere traffic violation didn't they know she was black and needed a free pass./S

39 posted on 11/17/2013 10:22:21 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: moonshinner_09

I believe that the police who fired on the vehicle may not have known there were other children inside. Alternatively, they may have been shooting low, at tires.


40 posted on 11/17/2013 10:22:44 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (War on Terror news at rantburg.com)
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To: DoughtyOne
I don’t think they should have opened fire. That was not the way to go with kids in the vehicle. The officers should answer for that. They should lose their jobs and perhaps face prosecution.

The shots were fired by the backup cop, freshly arrived at the scene, who was unlikely to know about the kids.

Watch the video. The backup cop walks up to a scene where the first cop had his taser drawn pointing at the car, and then starts smashing the window. The car the peels off. The cop could reasonably assume that there was a criminal in the car. This still does not excuse blindly firing into the car.

Then again, I strongly suspect most of the kids in the car will have criminal records within a few years.

41 posted on 11/17/2013 10:24:07 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: rktman

Maybe she didn’t want to get anal probed / raped by these cops. NM LE has a bad reputation for this. My opinion ... these donut munchers had NO right to fire on a car with ANY innocents in it ... especially children.


42 posted on 11/17/2013 10:24:19 AM PST by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: Popman

“What in the hell type of training are these police getting ?”

Clearly, not firearms training.

Fortunately, for the spawn of the ‘Tarded DriverPerson.


43 posted on 11/17/2013 10:24:36 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: moonshinner_09

No excuse for shooting at the vehicle but the woman is a moron.


44 posted on 11/17/2013 10:26:17 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: moonshinner_09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0gyNxM0aDk

It’s Officer Garcia from Reno 911 in real life...


45 posted on 11/17/2013 10:30:25 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: moonshinner_09

Let’s see. “We don’t know the whole sttory.” won’t work because the whole story is recorded. “She made a threatening gesture” won’t work because she’s driving away. guess we’ll have to go with “We’re cops we can shoot anyone at any time for any reason and we missed out on killing that woman in DC last month so we’ll do the same here.” Yep that works


46 posted on 11/17/2013 10:34:42 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: vladimir998

I TOTALLY agree with you with one caveat. Namely, popping off rounds at a mini van full of kids is most likely the DUMBEST thing I have ever seen in my life!

Trying REEEEEAAAAALLLLL hard to give the cop doing the shooting the benefit of the doubt, maybe he just pulled up on the scene, didn’t hear the kids and therefore in the heat of the moment did not know they were in the vehicle.

But, when you think about it, firing into a car not knowing WHO is in it is just as bad.


47 posted on 11/17/2013 10:37:37 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: marron
It looks like just one of the cops opened fire, one of the guys who arrived for backup.

I read an interesting article awhile back. It said that cops were more likely to overreact (shoot unnecessarily, use the baton unnecessarily, etc) when they were working in pairs. Less overreactions occurred when the cop was working alone.

That's kind of the opposite of what you'd think. I wonder if there is such a thing as a police "mob mentality."

48 posted on 11/17/2013 10:37:59 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: TigersEye
Correct. It all started as a simple traffic stop for speeding, and the driver escalated the situation from there. Up to the moment the police opened fire, it was all on the woman and her refusal to obey law enforcement orders that made the situation worse. Oh, and the passenger getting out to confront officers didn't help matters either...

Would be interesting to know what she had in that minivan besides kids that would cause her such angst...

49 posted on 11/17/2013 10:41:54 AM PST by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Have they stopped teaching cops the whole “arresting” people thingy? Just kinda pull out guns and shoot...dogs ..deer..people whatever.
That poor woman in the Mall in Washington who was shot dead had a child in the car too.


50 posted on 11/17/2013 10:45:21 AM PST by Blackirish
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