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How Obamacare Accomplishes The Unthinkable
Washington Post and The Federalist ^ | November 13, 2013 | Benjamin Domenech, publisher of The Federalist

Posted on 11/17/2013 12:12:30 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 11/17/2013 10:08:45 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

President Obama’s signature domestic policy may have accomplished something previously unthinkable: taking an issue where one party had a dominant hold on public opinion, and reversing it in favor of the opposing party.

Only 19 percent of American voters say the quality of care they and their families receive will improve in the next year because of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), while 43 percent say it will get worse and 33 percent say ACA won’t affect their health care. Voters oppose the ACA 55 – 39 percent, with men opposed 59 – 37 percent and women opposed 51 – 41 percent. American voters are divided 46 – 47 percent on whether Obama “knowingly deceived” the public when he said people could keep their existing health insurance plans if they wished. Voters also support 73 – 20 percent extending the March 31, 2014 deadline for signing up for coverage without facing a penalty.


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KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016election; congress; democrats; election2014; election2016; obama; obamacare
Dianne Feinstein is a moderate?!
1 posted on 11/17/2013 12:12:30 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
President Obama’s signature domestic policy may have accomplished something previously unthinkable: taking an issue where one party had a dominant hold on public opinion, and reversing it in favor of the opposing party.

That's not unthinkable. The GOP does it all the time.

2 posted on 11/17/2013 12:14:12 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The writer must be comparing her to Barbara Boxer.


3 posted on 11/17/2013 12:15:50 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama Braves The Big Glitch!


4 posted on 11/17/2013 12:16:01 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: ReformationFan

Or Leon Trotsky.


5 posted on 11/17/2013 12:16:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

6 posted on 11/17/2013 12:18:17 PM PST by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The RINOs will seek to “compromise” and bail Obama out by giving him a delay, pushing the problem to after the November 2014 elections. By then the low information voters and the media will be convinced that all is well and the Democrats keep hold of the Senate.


7 posted on 11/17/2013 12:20:23 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dianne Feinstein is a MONSTER !

Only idiots and the evil voted for Obama, or ANY of the Democrats.
They've lied to us, constantly, and really are "Collapsing the System".
And now, these "Useful IDIOTS" who voted for them, are buying the lies that "Obamacare was designed to work." ?
It was designed to fail from the start.
THEN ... THEY GO TO THE "SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM". They've been sucking our wallets dry for over four years now on the "Obamacare" LIE.
AND NOW THEY WANT MORE TAXES ?
Our Founding Fathers would have hung them already!

Lets review: So Democrats,
Sen Mark Kirk's statement Thursday, Dec 1, 2011 ... It's not our fault that DEMOCRATS raided the Social Security Trust Fund.
Let's remember ...

9 posted on 11/17/2013 12:21:36 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Can anyone explain how Obama's acolytes could mangle the entire Socialized Medicine (Universal Healthcare) plan so egregiously without a plan to do so intentionally. I do believe Obamacare was meant to fail causing an avalanche towards Medicade aka Single-payer or Universal Healthcare....Obama's mission is almost complete.....
10 posted on 11/17/2013 12:29:36 PM PST by yoe ( Defund Obamacare now — or risk voter backlash in 2014)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Republicans should not lift one single pinkie to save this. Keep it tied completely to the Dims’ necks like an anchor.


11 posted on 11/17/2013 12:31:27 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's beginning to look like we might swing control of Congress and the Presidency over this.

Which you'd think would be the perfect time to introduce some health-care reforms that would actually work:

Of course, this is the GOP we're talking about. They never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

12 posted on 11/17/2013 12:35:45 PM PST by jdege
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To: MUDDOG

I’d be roaring with laughter at your remark, if only it were brutally honest and true.


13 posted on 11/17/2013 12:36:33 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The best thing that could have happened to Democrats is the start up clusteryuck. It gives them an opportunity to keep lying to people about affordable healthcare. The best thing Democrats could do would be to abandon the whole thing. Delaying it only raises the national anxiety level.


14 posted on 11/17/2013 12:36:51 PM PST by pallis
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To: yoe
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15 posted on 11/17/2013 12:37:08 PM PST by Junk Silver
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They probably think Trotsky is a “conservative”.


16 posted on 11/17/2013 12:40:00 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Just to mention one: nominating Romney and thereby losing the Obamacare issue.


17 posted on 11/17/2013 12:42:04 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; MUDDOG
Whoops, forgot a key word in my reply. Should have read: "I’d be roaring with laughter at your remark, if only it were NOT brutally honest and true.
18 posted on 11/17/2013 12:46:54 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I knew what you meant. Just thought I’d give a favorite example.


19 posted on 11/17/2013 12:47:50 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And still the Republicans aren't getting credit for trying to delay all this during the shutdown.

Why the disconnect? Poor and biased journalism explains that.

20 posted on 11/17/2013 12:50:33 PM PST by freerepublicchat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Dems are strong no matter what, with the low info voter, the education system and the press on their side.


21 posted on 11/17/2013 1:04:27 PM PST by lurk
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To: jdege

Make self-pay pricing for procedures the same as 3rd party pricing (insurance, medicare, etc.) or at least require that the pricing for procedures be available up front.

Make it legal to sell a hospitalization policy where insurance isn’t involved for routine doctors visits.


22 posted on 11/17/2013 1:05:12 PM PST by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
If the latest poll numbers and enrollment figures are to be believed, we could be witnessing a political achievement unequaled in modern political history: the complete demolition of one party’s long-term dominance on an issue area – the Democrats’ ownership of the health care issue – in the space of a few months. Quinnipiac finds that young people trust Republicans in Congress more on health policy than the president; that a plurality of Hispanics, long the most pro-Obamacare faction, are now opposed to the law; and that overwhelming majorities (70+ percent) of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents are in favor of delaying the law.

23 posted on 11/17/2013 1:14:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Junk Silver

Right on the money!!! Think back to the term “Universal Healthcare”....Pelosi and Reid plus a number of RINOs jumped on that band-wagon until that also got mired up in the political mud. I wish Charles Krauthammer, Brit Hume, O’Reilly would join those non-elites who have been and are now explaining that the Obama trinity.(Jarrett, Michelle,& Plouffe)could not have ‘brilliantly’ botched the 2011+page Affordable Health Care/Obamacare without a plan to do so intentionally.


24 posted on 11/17/2013 1:28:51 PM PST by yoe ( Defund Obamacare now — or risk voter backlash in 2014)
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To: yoe

You said...
“I do believe Obamacare was meant to fail causing an avalanche towards Medicade aka Single-payer or Universal Healthcare”

That may be true intially but it’s not failing the way they hoped it would.


25 posted on 11/17/2013 1:39:36 PM PST by LMAO ("Begging hands and Bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"...Anthem from Rush)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The argument Landrieu is making on behalf of the bill will appeal to many Senate Democrats.

Possible campaign slogans: "I'm too stupid to actually read a bill before I vote on it, so put me back in the Senate..."

"Those mean Republicans printed the bill in cursive so I could not read the bill before I voted on it"

"You're so stupid you will vote for me again anyway, so here is more free stuff"

26 posted on 11/17/2013 1:41:09 PM PST by Bernard (The Road To Hell is not paved with good results.)
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To: LMAO; All

The thing that may save us from the malice of this administration is their arrogance and incompetence.


27 posted on 11/17/2013 2:09:39 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
overwhelming majorities (70+ percent) of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents are in favor of delaying the law

Unfortunately, we may have passed the point where public opinion matters.

Regardless, we fight on.

28 posted on 11/17/2013 2:13:38 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“the complete demolition of one party’s long-term dominance on an issue area “

This result seemed natural to me in contemplating the new presidents’ eventual situation if he got what he wanted in this matter. They (the Evil Left) had pretty much gotten away with distorting the Culture of America beyond any recognition over the last 68 years but a ‘successful’ ObamaCare MUST end in collapse of their political fortunes (to say nothing of the economy and our healthcare system.

Again and again I wondered: what were they thinking would happen?

A proper tactic would have undermined the system S L O W L Y over approximately a generation, sucking in dependents as it went.

Either they are going down or force enters into the calculation soon.


29 posted on 11/17/2013 2:22:31 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: sickoflibs
...Quinnipiac finds that young people trust Republicans in Congress more on health policy than the president; that a plurality of Hispanics, long the most pro-Obamacare faction, are now opposed to the law; and that overwhelming majorities (70+ percent) of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents are in favor of delaying the law. And that’s not all: Only 19 percent of American voters say the quality of care they and their families receive will improve in the next year because of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), while 43 percent say it will get worse...

ping

30 posted on 11/17/2013 5:24:26 PM PST by GOPJ (Obama - "too arrogant to question his own bad judgement" ... Greenfield)
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To: Yosemitest
...Quinnipiac finds that young people trust Republicans in Congress more on health policy than the president; that a plurality of Hispanics, long the most pro-Obamacare faction, are now opposed to the law; and that overwhelming majorities (70+ percent) of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents are in favor of delaying the law. And that’s not all: Only 19 percent of American voters say the quality of care they and their families receive will improve in the next year because of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), while 43 percent say it will get worse...

This will lift your spirits... ping

31 posted on 11/17/2013 5:27:25 PM PST by GOPJ (Obama - "too arrogant to question his own bad judgement" ... Greenfield)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So the Republicans will “fix” this.
That’s the big picture I get.
Not good.


32 posted on 11/17/2013 5:32:56 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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