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CURL: The beginning of the end for Barack Obama
The Washington Times ^ | 11/17/2013 | Joseph Curl

Posted on 11/17/2013 6:11:45 PM PST by markomalley

Second-term presidents in the past 30 years have had some pretty embarrassing news conferences, full of frank admissions of failure, submissive spasms of shame and groveling, grieving apologies.

Bill Clinton had to admit that he actually did have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky; George W. Bush finally thought of something he might have done wrong; his dad had to explain all those new taxes after his unequivocal pledge; and even Ronald Reagan ate crow over the Iran-Contra affair.

But there has never, ever, been a more pitiful presser than the one conducted last week by President Obama. In a nutshell, he said sure, everything’s a mess, but he just didn’t know. Introspective for the first time, he acknowledged he “fumbled the rollout” of Obamacare, said his “you can keep it” pledge “ended up not being accurate” and admitted that his “credibility” is in the dumper. And he tossed out this gem: “What we’re also discovering is that insurance is complicated to buy.” Ya think?

This second-term unraveling has beset nearly all modern presidents. Like Mr. Clinton before him (whose second-term agenda was derailed by a stained little blue dress), George W. Bush’s ambitious plans, including an overhaul of entitlement programs, died suddenly after the Hurricane Katrina debacle. His own party abandoned him on immigration reform, and he was left counting the days until he could go home to his Texas ranch. Even the Republican nominee for president didn’t want him around.

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1 posted on 11/17/2013 6:11:45 PM PST by markomalley
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2 posted on 11/17/2013 6:13:19 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: markomalley

If we think it’s bad now, just wait until Israel has to bunker bomb Iran’s nuke sites because Odungo won’t take phone calls from BB because he’s too busy easing sanctions on Iran’s nuclear sites.


3 posted on 11/17/2013 6:15:23 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: markomalley
>> Second-term presidents in the past 30 years have had some pretty embarrassing news conferences , full of frank admissions of failure, submissive spasms of shame and groveling, grieving apologies. Bill Clinton had to admit that he actually did have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky; George W. Bush finally thought of something he might have done wrong; his dad had to explain all those new taxes after his unequivocal pledge <<

George H. Bush had a second term from 1993-1997? Wow, I don't seem to remember that one. Can I get a copy of Clinton's concession speech?

4 posted on 11/17/2013 6:16:41 PM PST by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: markomalley

Okay, I was in Hurricane Katrina in Biloxi, so naturally I didn’t see any of the coverage on TV, newspapers and magazines. How in the world did it get twisted into President Bush being at fault?


5 posted on 11/17/2013 6:17:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: markomalley

Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.


6 posted on 11/17/2013 6:18:35 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: markomalley

>>died suddenly after the Hurricane Katrina debacle<<

I was thinking about Katrina. It was NEVER a “debacle.” What it WAS was allowing the MSM to write and dictate the narrative.

The response to Katrina was the best and most efficient movement of men and materiel in documented history.

But Bush had the unspoken “higher ground” policy (that was the REAL “Bush Doctrine”).

When he gave the “you’re doin’ a heck of job Brownie” press conference he should have been strong, specific and made it crystal clear that the Administration had been ahead of Katrina the whole time and that the MSM was creating disatsre out of whole cloth (even then they knew there were no rape ganfs in the Superdome nor potshots taken at helicopters).

Instead, he tried to brush it all off and make it light, with few specifics and, more importantly, NO EMPHASIS NOR STORY LINE!

That speech, more than any other, brought us the manmade disaster of obozo and its nation-killing spawn obozocare.

Bush should have been more forceful and defended his policies and actions. He gave the MSM rope and they hanged us all with it.


7 posted on 11/17/2013 6:20:32 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: markomalley

“the Hurricane Katrina debacle.”
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I always thought that hurricanes were an act of God.
I never understood why Katrina was all Bush’s fault, or what he could have done to make all the pain just blow away.


8 posted on 11/17/2013 6:20:42 PM PST by AlexW
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To: All

“What we’re also discovering is that insurance is complicated to buy”

friggin idiot


9 posted on 11/17/2013 6:22:01 PM PST by willywill
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To: freedumb2003

“I was thinking about Katrina. It was NEVER a “debacle.”
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Oh, you beat me to it...Thank you.


10 posted on 11/17/2013 6:22:18 PM PST by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Okay, I was in Hurricane Katrina in Biloxi, so naturally I didn’t see any of the coverage on TV, newspapers and magazines. How in the world did it get twisted into President Bush being at fault?”

What twisted? President Bush is always at fault;)


11 posted on 11/17/2013 6:22:46 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: AlexW

“I always thought that hurricanes were an act of God”

they are, but God didn’t like bush.


12 posted on 11/17/2013 6:24:41 PM PST by willywill
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To: freedumb2003

Appreciate your post. Right on the mark IMO.


13 posted on 11/17/2013 6:26:45 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: AlexW

The Bushitler-Cheney Hurricane Machine

http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/archives/6507-The-Bushitler-Cheney-Hurricane-Machine.html


14 posted on 11/17/2013 6:27:17 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: All

“Funny, it was Mrs. Clinton’s husband who played a big role in the meltdown. Slick Willie, with an eye on his wife’s coming run, tossed out the idea that the president should — shocker — honor his commitment”

it only now occurred to me they maybe bill had this figured and gave a little payback to Obama and maybe helped Hillary to boot.


15 posted on 11/17/2013 6:28:35 PM PST by willywill
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To: Travis McGee

As a mooselimb, Obama is allowed to lie to the infidels, and he did.


16 posted on 11/17/2013 6:29:05 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"George Bush doesn't care about black people"

 photo kanyemyers_1.jpg

Kunta Kanye told me so.

17 posted on 11/17/2013 6:29:17 PM PST by digger48
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To: blackdog

I think Israel with the help of the Saudi’s will attack Iran before this year is over.


18 posted on 11/17/2013 6:29:29 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: markomalley
Read the whole article. It gets even better:

" — the president’s credibility is shot, gone. His plan to revamp immigration? Dead. As is the rest of his legislative wish list. And we’ll have to see whether Hillary Rodham Clinton wants him anywhere near the campaign trail in 2016.

Funny, it was Mrs. Clinton’s husband who played a big role in the meltdown. Slick Willie, with an eye on his wife’s coming run, tossed out the idea that the president should — shocker — honor his commitment that “If you like your health care plan, you can keep it.” That gave fellow Democrats the cover to bail on the embattled president — and they did, in droves.

Twenty hours after Mr. Obama’s depressing presser, 39 Democrats joined Republicans to support the “Keep Your Health Plan Act of 2013.” And just like that, No. 44 became a lame duck, eviscerated and emasculated. The shutdown? Ancient history. The fractured Republican Party? Gone with the wind."

19 posted on 11/17/2013 6:30:16 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: markomalley

This is why we need single six-year terms for President. 2nd terms are always disastrous. In fact, after the Civil War, this was discussed, since in the Confederacy one can only serve six years.


20 posted on 11/17/2013 6:30:51 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: blackdog

you give him too much credit, I would say he is not taking BB’s phone calls because when he is on the back 9 (seemingly every day), he orders all cell phones OFF !!!

He could help his legacy the most by resigning and taking Biden with him.


21 posted on 11/17/2013 6:30:51 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: freedumb2003

If Katrina was a debacle what do you call Sandy?


22 posted on 11/17/2013 6:31:32 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: markomalley

Does anyone understand that if an obviously corrupt pResident is not impeached then no future pResident can ever be impeached regardless of his corruption, treason, or disregard for his Constituional oath? It will set an iron-clad precedent.


23 posted on 11/17/2013 6:32:18 PM PST by Thom Pain (U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT! : $70 TRILLION unfunded...)
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To: freedumb2003

Maher had a good joke on his show the other day.

Apparently Bush called Obama on the health care.gov website and said “You’re doing a heck of a job Brownie “.


24 posted on 11/17/2013 6:32:50 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: markomalley
In the blink of an eye, Mr. Obama’s approval rating plunged to 39 percent — exactly where George W. Bush found himself after weeks of dire Katrina coverage

The difference is that the weeks of Katrina coverage were full of propaganda and full-on lies in order to take Bush down.

Obama's takedown was caused all by himself.

25 posted on 11/17/2013 6:37:02 PM PST by what's up
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Okay, I was in Hurricane Katrina in Biloxi”
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I was far far away in Slovakia, but I saw it on TV.
IIRC, it was not the Hurricane so much as it was the river Levee failure that caused the severe damage.
That was never considered a potential problem prior to Katrina. I guess since they were built by the US government, it had to be Bush’s fault.
I think they also said that the levees were poorly built and could have failed at any time, with or without a hurricane.


26 posted on 11/17/2013 6:40:36 PM PST by AlexW
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To: riri
If Katrina was a debacle what do you call Sandy?

A slut?

27 posted on 11/17/2013 6:42:38 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: markomalley

>> Clinton before him (whose second-term agenda was derailed by a stained little blue dress) <<

That’s a bald faced lie. There was nothing small about that dress.


28 posted on 11/17/2013 6:43:23 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ("The government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: AlexW

The levee was in New Orleans, over an hour away from us. Our problem was the actual storm and the surge.


29 posted on 11/17/2013 6:43:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: digger48
"George Bush doesn't care about black people"

Interestingly, while the networks worked overtime to blame Bush for Katrina and to promote the "doesn't care about black people" meme, the blacks actually affected didn't buy it.

I recall network reporters interviewing New Orleans refugees in the Houston shelters trying to plant the story with their subjects. But the New Orleans blacks denied the claim outright. They knew full well who was to blame for their plight: Mayor Ray Nagin and Gov. Kathleen Blank-o.

30 posted on 11/17/2013 6:45:43 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: riri

>>If Katrina was a debacle what do you call Sandy?<<

“Whitey gets paid back.”

We should look for the recordings of barry and moochelle obozo, holder, belagosi and other friends of the administration laughing and pointing at the TV when it hit, while passing around popcorn and beer.

Because I am 100% sure that is what they they were doing.

And yes I am serious.


31 posted on 11/17/2013 6:46:16 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: okie01

that was another one of those many times where the informed people like FReepers watched reality as it happened live, and then had our jaws drop when we saw the fantasy that the MSM created for the LIVs on the evening news.

I quit watching FOX because of Mascara Man and Whorealdos coverage of Katrina.


32 posted on 11/17/2013 6:56:16 PM PST by digger48
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To: Rome2000

I’ve been kicked off web sites for that very comment.


33 posted on 11/17/2013 6:57:05 PM PST by digger48
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To: digger48

Only liberals get away with jokes like that.

At least for now.


34 posted on 11/17/2013 6:59:07 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: markomalley

” -—In a nutshell, he said sure, everything’s a mess, but he just didn’t know. -—”

Well, lemme see now - - - ?

Just how would an Impeachment trial weigh that candid admission of B. Hussein Obama, aka Barry soetoro?

1.) Dereliction of Duty;
2.) Gross incompetence;
3.) Ignorance of THE LAW, which any judge will tell you “Is No Excuse!”


35 posted on 11/17/2013 6:59:34 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Easy.

He had an “R” after his name.


36 posted on 11/17/2013 7:02:32 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Thom Pain
"Does anyone understand that if an obviously corrupt pResident is not impeached then no future pResident can ever be impeached regardless of his corruption, treason, or disregard for his Constituional oath? It will set an iron-clad precedent."

I don't follow the logic. Our current congress doesn't have a spine, but we can change that if enough people wake up.

37 posted on 11/17/2013 7:03:46 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you were in Biloxi the MSM ignored you anyway, along with the rest of the Mississippi coast. As far as they were concerned, only New Orleans was newsworthy. And then after the hurricane was over I think the MSM was pissed off because the citizens of Mississippi didn’t whine and cry but just set about rebuilding their homes. You all didn’t act like victims although the damage was far worse along the Gulf coast. How dare you be self-sufficient?


38 posted on 11/17/2013 7:05:44 PM PST by wayoverthehill ('")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The levee was in New Orleans,”
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Yes, I know Biloxi quite well, all the way back to my very early childhood, when I saw my first slot machine. My father held me so I could drop in a dime and pull the handle. Out came two dimes !! WOW, I thought I was in heaven !
I did, however, shortly learn that what God gives, God can take away :(

My point about New Orleans is that it is not on the coast, but somewhat inland. I believe it was downgraded (cat 3) before it hit New Orleans, and might not have been such a big deal if not for the levee failure.


39 posted on 11/17/2013 7:09:19 PM PST by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Everything gets twisted into Bush’s fault

Republicans had better get good at saying anything at all or rising above criticism. Bush was ‘gentlemanly’ about it. Wimpy is the word

Bush had expected the residents to know how to get out of the way without his getting in the middle of it like the jersey and in sandy

But inner city no’ers and their idiot mayor couldn’t even figure out to reroute two of three incoming lanes of highway nor to get some transportation for the poor people in the path. It was a shocking display of incompetence. And they blamed bush who could’ve shown up a day or two before he did

And republicans are missing it if they don’t think the media will do what they can to blame republicans and or the insurance companies for obamacare


40 posted on 11/17/2013 7:15:15 PM PST by stanne
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To: freedumb2003

Absolutely!!! Spot on!!!!

Between the Navy, Coast Guard and National Guard Thirty-thousand lives were saved. Bush should have pushed back hard. That was a HUGE mistake! HUGE!!!


41 posted on 11/17/2013 7:18:50 PM PST by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: BillyBoy
Great catch. Journalism ain't what it used to be is it.
42 posted on 11/17/2013 7:24:41 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"This is why we need single six-year terms for President"

To hell with that- entirely too much damage can be done in six years. Two three year terms, giving us a chance to dump losers after three, just might be preferable to what we have.

43 posted on 11/17/2013 7:28:10 PM PST by matthew fuller (Americans deserve better than an illegal alien communist from Kenya.)
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To: markomalley
In the blink of an eye, Mr. Obama’s approval rating plunged to 39 percent — exactly where George W. Bush found himself after weeks of dire Katrina coverage.

it's worth noting that Bush had the media basically calling him Hitler/Satan/Racist, etc., on a daily basis, whereas Obama has had constant fawning praise from the media. And despite this, Zero's approval is still sinking.

44 posted on 11/17/2013 7:43:40 PM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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>> CURL...

Gets me every time... /pun


45 posted on 11/17/2013 8:06:59 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: matthew fuller

I kinda’ like the idea of a 5 year term, but with the people being able to oust any “President” or “Usurper” with a vote of no confidence should the need arise...couldn’t trust the paid flunkies in Congress to do it.


46 posted on 11/17/2013 8:26:27 PM PST by kiltie65
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Then you have a single term lame duck. As soon as they are elected for six years, the fight begins for the next President.

By having a chance at a second term, the President has ‘to listen to the people’, to some degree before the end of the first term.

In essence, we have one 8 year term split into two parts.


47 posted on 11/17/2013 8:44:02 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: markomalley
But there has never, ever, been a more pitiful presser than the one conducted last week by President Obama. In a nutshell, he said sure, everything’s a mess, but he just didn’t know. -Joseph Curl

Obama sounded like President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Comacho from the 2006 movie Idiocracy, who made a similar plea to a joint session of Congress:
"Sh&t. I know sh&t's bad right now, with all that starving bullsh&t, and the dust storms, and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution."

As life imitates art, Obama imitates Comacho. Sadly, America also imitates Idiocracy.

48 posted on 11/17/2013 8:57:17 PM PST by Always A Marine
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To: what's up

It’s worse than that. Bush had the MSM propaganda machine working full throttle against him to bring him down to 39%. 0vomit has the MSM propaganda working FOR him to keep him up to 39%.


49 posted on 11/17/2013 9:42:11 PM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: MV=PY

I disagree with the logic. For one thing, a good share of the congress ought to be impeached as well. I’d start with Nancy Pelosi and anyone else who signed off on 0vomit’s eligibility to hold office. I’d include anyone who had knowledge of his origins and kept quiet about it.


50 posted on 11/17/2013 9:47:23 PM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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