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Knife Rights' Knife Owners' Protection Act Introduced in Congress
SacBee ^ | 18 November 2013 | Knife Rights

Posted on 11/18/2013 12:01:50 PM PST by smokingfrog

Edited on 11/18/2013 12:03:40 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON, Nov. 18, 2013 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The Knife Owners' Protection Act, H.R.3478, has been introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives by Rep. Matt Salmon (AZ-05). H.R.3478 would protect the right of knife owners to travel throughout the U.S. without fear of prosecution under the myriad patchwork of state and local knife laws.


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1 posted on 11/18/2013 12:01:50 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

> secure and safe transportation of knives through jurisdictions where the mere ownership of a certain type of knife is enough to bring arrest and criminal prosecution.

Like NYC.


2 posted on 11/18/2013 12:03:19 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: TheRhinelander

NYC?

How long is too long? 2 1/2 inches?


3 posted on 11/18/2013 12:07:11 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: smokingfrog

Some state knife laws have been really badly written. I remember years ago, reading the Florida statute on concealed carry and one of the things forbidden was “Buck Knifes”. That surely meant one of the Buck 110 lockback knives, but it simply said Buck.

However it was interpreted, it was a bad law and I suspect has been repealed or re-written.


4 posted on 11/18/2013 12:11:39 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: smokingfrog
I remember a story a couple years ago in some legal journal about a legal interpretation that said knives are protected under the 2nd amendment just the same as guns because “arms” as defined during the time the 2nd was written meant far more than just guns, “arms” were essentially anything you might need to effectively defend your property and community, in the terms of the day that meant muskets, musket balls, gunpowder, bayonet, sword, knives even a cannon if you could afford one.
5 posted on 11/18/2013 12:19:03 PM PST by apillar
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To: smokingfrog

My trusty trapper goes everywhere with me. You never know when you are going to come across roadkill to skin and eat.


6 posted on 11/18/2013 12:19:42 PM PST by pallis
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To: Pearls Before Swine

This thing was designed for NYC and gov buildings where more than 2.5 inches = “weapon”

http://emersonknives.com/product-category/knives/cqc-14/

KYPD


7 posted on 11/18/2013 12:24:52 PM PST by petro45acp (It's a fabian thing.....how do you boil a frog? How's that water feelin right about now?)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
How long is too long? 2 1/2 inches?

Oh dear.

(glancing down)

8 posted on 11/18/2013 12:27:03 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: smokingfrog

So now we’re going to have poorly written Law A that will supersede and protect you from poorly written Law B, which was poorly written to clarify poorly written Law C, which is peripherally connected to poorly written Law D, which was never enforced because poorly written Law E has conflicting language, which still leaves spoons and forks in unregulated limbo.

Ayn Rand was certainly prophetic.


9 posted on 11/18/2013 12:27:33 PM PST by Cololeo
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To: yarddog

10 posted on 11/18/2013 12:27:46 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

KOPA?


11 posted on 11/18/2013 12:28:51 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: smokingfrog

Knife, bat, axe handle, pipe, chain, hammer ..... whats next, you got a licence to have them arms? why do you need two, makes you twice as dangerous...


12 posted on 11/18/2013 12:28:54 PM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: smokingfrog

I went to a motorcycle toy run once in Baltimore.

At the gate they were checking for knives. I had my pocket knife I always carry in my pocket. They made me walk all the way back to where my bike was to place it in the tour pack.

I got into the toy run area and one of the first things I spotted was a vendor selling knives.


13 posted on 11/18/2013 12:30:35 PM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: smokingfrog

14 posted on 11/18/2013 12:33:44 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: smokingfrog

Annoying Orange believes in the RKBKn every time he shouts “KNIFE!!!”

;^)


15 posted on 11/18/2013 12:35:10 PM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Pearls Before Swine

16 posted on 11/18/2013 12:35:15 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog; Ramius; 300winmag; IrishCatholic; lookout88; Wpin; spetznaz; Smokin' Joe; ...

Sword Ping!

Not really a sword item, but something related to edged weapons... I don’t know what this proposed law is about in detail, but in general I certainly would like to see some deregulation of knives in several key ways.


17 posted on 11/18/2013 12:36:02 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: smokingfrog

We are so backwards now. We have ceded the idea that government is limited in power and jurisdiction. We now see government as something all powerful that can only be restricted by law.


18 posted on 11/18/2013 12:36:15 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: smokingfrog
About an inch or so TOO LONG Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

19 posted on 11/18/2013 12:38:49 PM PST by Chance Hart
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To: smokingfrog

Obama’s beloved Islamists used box cutters to kill 3,000 innocent people and nearly kill 75,000. The blade on a typical box cutter is barely an inch and a half.


20 posted on 11/18/2013 12:39:09 PM PST by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: smokingfrog

I have a Buck just like that. I also have a Schrade which is a twin except for the name.


21 posted on 11/18/2013 12:45:37 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: smokingfrog

Knife regulations??? Someone please tell me this is a joke.


22 posted on 11/18/2013 12:52:04 PM PST by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: smokingfrog

Finally. It’s about time we repealed the frankly ridiculous laws against various types of knives. Trench knives, switchblades, and butterfly knifes should be legal to carry. In addition, can brass knuckles be attached?

The knife laws in some states are truly bad. Minnesota’s is so vague, nobody knows if you’re even allowed kitchen knives.


23 posted on 11/18/2013 12:55:02 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: apillar

Exactly. Right to bear arms covers blades.


24 posted on 11/18/2013 12:55:36 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I guess I can't carry this then. :(
25 posted on 11/18/2013 12:59:26 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon
I have a trench knife just like this one: http://ewstoneknife.com/images/51917ACCO1.JPG
26 posted on 11/18/2013 1:06:58 PM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

I can only imagine a mugger’s face with one of those jabbing towards his eye.


27 posted on 11/18/2013 1:19:08 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: smokingfrog

I am apprehensive about this, if for no other reason than by establishing it under federal law might make it possible to be turned on its head in federal law someday.

It’s a jurisdictional thing. Right now, congress has authorized Customs and Border Patrol to involve itself with knife rights deep within US territory. I don’t like ‘em, and I don’t trust ‘em.

Be suspicious when the want to “federalize” state laws.


28 posted on 11/18/2013 1:43:44 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (War on Terror news at rantburg.com)
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To: Viennacon

Wouldn’t the spikes interfere with the skinning hook?


29 posted on 11/18/2013 1:56:55 PM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Neidermeyer

I’ll get back to you if I ever feel the need to skin someone :p

I’ll tell you though, getting punched in the face with that thing would ruin anyone’s day.


30 posted on 11/18/2013 2:06:40 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Pearls Before Swine

How long is too long? 2 1/2 inches?


If that was the case I think I would take up starring in porn movies. LoL!


31 posted on 11/18/2013 2:13:31 PM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: GeronL
-- KOPA? --

And about as useful as FOPA, which means not useful at all when the idjits in NY or NJ or CA decide to hassle you.

32 posted on 11/18/2013 2:17:21 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Viennacon

The idea behind the spikes is to keep someone from grabbing your hand. The blade is the deadly part of a knife.


33 posted on 11/18/2013 2:17:28 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name the illness that you have and Google it with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch

The thing is long enough to actually go all the way through a relatively thin person. It’s more of a show weapon than anything else, until I can custom make some sort of sheath for it. Full tang is great for durability, but not good for easy carry.

Only $100 :D


34 posted on 11/18/2013 2:28:28 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Pearls Before Swine

1/8” is too long. ALL knives are banned.


35 posted on 11/18/2013 2:32:53 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: smokingfrog; Ramius; 300winmag; IrishCatholic; lookout88; Wpin; spetznaz; Smokin' Joe; ...
thanks, for the post..
SWORD PING!
..
basically, a bladed weapons ping....

36 posted on 11/18/2013 2:42:48 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: smokingfrog
That's not a knoif ...

...this is a knoif!

37 posted on 11/18/2013 2:47:42 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: JoeProBono

now that's fairly utilitarian...

38 posted on 11/18/2013 2:49:56 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: skinkinthegrass

My friend is a knife collector and has one of those. I think it has 141 tools.

It comes with a certificate from Guinness book of world records

When he brings his knife collection to scouts, that Swiss Army “knife” is the grand finale


39 posted on 11/18/2013 2:54:12 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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I never realized they actually sold that, I thought it was just a put on.

Our scout (soon to be Trail Life) troop has an annual knife exchange at Christmas.


40 posted on 11/18/2013 3:09:46 PM PST by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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To: smokingfrog

Where do I have to go to apply for my rock carrying permit?


41 posted on 11/18/2013 3:14:10 PM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: skinkinthegrass

42 posted on 11/18/2013 3:16:10 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: bgill

It’s not, but probably should be. I wonder what kind of regulations China has on knives after all those people were attacked at the police station & that school?


43 posted on 11/18/2013 3:20:30 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: bgill

Don’t travel through Alabama with one. The says there says you will do, and I quote, “hard time”.


44 posted on 11/18/2013 3:44:38 PM PST by amerifreak
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To: bgill
KNIFE LAWS of the 50 STATES
45 posted on 11/18/2013 3:48:27 PM PST by Dysart (Obamacare: "We are losing money on every subscriber-- but we will make it up in volume!")
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To: smokingfrog

http://nicnac.net/


46 posted on 11/18/2013 5:57:07 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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Thanks. I’ve been looking for a Böker.


47 posted on 11/18/2013 7:59:13 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Dysart
So, an illegal knife is one that's over 5.5 inches. That includes half the knives in the kitchen drawer. Heaven forbid if I get caught with the turkey carving knife and the bread slicer next week. SWAT better have room for the confiscated pressure cookerS, too.
48 posted on 11/18/2013 8:01:16 PM PST by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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That reminds me of a recent discussion on another thread.

My Father served on a Walton County Jury back in the late 40s. A Black hobo was being tried for having a concealed weapon, a knife. The defendant had no attorney but he showed how he used the knife to open cans. He also had a fork and spoon in his kit.

Now Daddy and probably every other man on the jury would now probably be considered a racist. It didn’t matter tho as they had no interest in convicting an innocent man and found him not guilty.


49 posted on 11/18/2013 8:24:36 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

I’ve carried a Swiss Army Knife since I was 11 (51 years ago). I use it 4-5 times a day for everything from trimming my nails, opening cans, sawing a limb.


50 posted on 11/18/2013 8:27:38 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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