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POPE FRANCIS Blasts Progressive Movement – “The Fruit of the Devil”
thegatewaypundit.com ^ | November 18, 2013 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 11/18/2013 5:02:21 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o

Pope Francis blasted the progressive movement that negotiates everything, even faith.

God save us from the “hegemonic uniformity ” of the “one line of thought”, “fruit of the spirit of the world that negotiates everything”, even the faith. This was Pope Francis’ prayer during mass this morning at Casa Santa Marta, commenting on a passage from the Book of Maccabees, in which the leaders of the people do not want Israel to be isolated from other nations , and so abandon their traditions to negotiate with the king.

"They go to “negotiate ” and are excited about it. It is as if they said “we are progressives; let’s follow progress like everyone else does”. As reported by Vatican Radio, the Pope noted that this is the “spirit of adolescent progressivism” according to which “any move forward and any choice is better than remaining within the routine of fidelity”. These people, therefore , negotiate “loyalty to God who is always faithful” with the king. “This is called apostasy”, “adultery.” They are, in fact, negotiating their values​​, “ negotiating the very essence of being faithful to the Lord .”

“And this is a contradiction: we do not negotiate values​​, but faithfulness. And this is the fruit of the devil, the prince of this world , who leads us forward with the spirit of worldliness. And then there are the direct consequences. They accepted the habits of the pagan, then a further step: the king wrote to his whole kingdom that all should be one people, and everyone would abandon their customs.

A globalizing conformity of all nations is not beautiful, rather, each with own customs but united, but it is the hegemonic uniformity of globalization, the single line of thought. And this single line of thought is the result of worldliness."

Obviously, this won’t make many headlines in the West.


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To: ClaytonP

Conservatives?

Last I checked, the papacy was not an American political position.

Catholicism is growing in Latin countries and in African countries.

It is waning in the West and that means Europe and America, yet these countries think they are the center of even the Catholic Universe.

And that the Catholic Church follows their political law; that it is a democrat organization subject to change like the American one.

No. It has existed as it does for 2,000 years. It dows not emulate the much younger and secular American system.

It is a silly notion that never coms true and it is not true.

He


21 posted on 11/18/2013 6:23:04 PM PST by stanne
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To: Mrs. Don-o

AMEN!!!!!!!


22 posted on 11/18/2013 6:24:10 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: stanne
Conservatives?

Last I checked, the papacy was not an American political position.

What is the point of your inane reply?

The tread is about progressivism/conservatism which is a worldwide phenomenon.

23 posted on 11/18/2013 6:30:24 PM PST by ClaytonP
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To: ClaytonP

What’s my point?

To dispute your silly notions.

For instance:

‘Feed the conservative pigeons every now and then with some red meat to get them to ignore how he undermines his own faith...”


24 posted on 11/18/2013 6:32:42 PM PST by stanne
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To: ClaytonP

Would you care to give a non inane reply to the question, what progressivism has this Pope promoted?


25 posted on 11/18/2013 6:34:55 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne
So let me get this straight:

The pope attacks progressivism and you think that means something totally disconnected from American politics or progressive religious beliefs or just plain worldwide leftism.

I mention Conservatism and you think that I'm only talking about American politics??

That is why your reply was stupid.

Its as if you think there has never been conservative thought anywhere in the world before the USA

26 posted on 11/18/2013 6:39:04 PM PST by ClaytonP
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Sure can. Amen.


27 posted on 11/18/2013 6:40:49 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: ClaytonP

I didn’t think you’d give a reply to my simple question, to qualify your original accusation.

the rest will be anti-Catholic drivel I nve grown to expect here.


28 posted on 11/18/2013 6:49:11 PM PST by stanne
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Amen!!!
29 posted on 11/18/2013 6:53:17 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: stanne
the rest will be anti-Catholic drivel I nve grown to expect here.

HERE WE GO.

The real reason for your illogical and nonsensical reply is that I criticized your leader and you had a hissy fit.

30 posted on 11/18/2013 6:56:03 PM PST by ClaytonP
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To: Viennacon

Folks know the press doesn’t always get it right and sometimes doesn’t even try on other matters. Why would anybody ever think it would be any different here?


31 posted on 11/18/2013 6:59:14 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“Progressive” also means progressive economics, and he’s had nice things to say about economic justice. I still can’t figure him out.


32 posted on 11/18/2013 7:08:32 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

30+ posts and still no link?


33 posted on 11/18/2013 7:11:28 PM PST by posterchild
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To: Viennacon
“Either this Pope has bi-polar disorder, or the media are severely fudging the translations of his sentiments.”

He is human, and will sometimes say amazing things, and sometimes not so amazing. I have zero doubt that his faith is true and strong, and that he lives by this. You can be all of those things, and still make human error, daily.

34 posted on 11/18/2013 7:14:23 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: posterchild
Found it at weaselzippers.us

Pope Francis Calls Out “Progressives” By Name, Says They Are Pushing The “Fruit of The Devil”

35 posted on 11/18/2013 7:19:06 PM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: ClaytonP

You did not criticize the Pope. You made an inane remark that you still have not backed up .

Just back it up.


36 posted on 11/18/2013 7:41:11 PM PST by stanne
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To: SoFloFreeper; Admin Moderator
Gaaah, SoFlo, what happened to my link??! I'll have to ask the Admin Moderator to put it up there at the top:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/pope-francis-blasts-progressive-movement-the-fruit-of-the-devil/

Source: TheGatewayPundit.

37 posted on 11/19/2013 6:42:01 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("See something, say something.")
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To: posterchild
I just got online and noticed this. Hope the Admin Moderator will fix it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3092875/posts?page=37#37

38 posted on 11/19/2013 6:47:52 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("See something, say something.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks!!


39 posted on 11/19/2013 7:05:32 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Admin Moderator

I didn’t have a link at the top here. Could you please put it is for me?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/pope-francis-blasts-progressive-movement-the-fruit-of-the-devil/

Source: TheGatewayPundit.

Thanks


40 posted on 11/19/2013 9:04:54 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("See something, say something.")
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