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To: alice_in_bubbaland
“Either this Pope has bi-polar disorder, or the media are severely fudging the translations of his sentiments.”

"I was thinking along those lines too. He was sounding like a liberal a few weeks ago, or at least that’s what I thought he said."

Ditto. There aren't very many conservative Jesuits in my experience. Pope Francis certainly didn't strike me as one.

16 posted on 11/18/2013 5:42:34 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Sooth2222

The Jesuits as founded were adherent to the Magisterium, the Bible, and tradition. There were contemporary Jesuits who rejected some of this, notably, Humanae Vitae, which pointed to the dangers of Birth control.

Most Catholics adhere to the rejection of this document, claiming they can be Catholic and also support/practice birth control, which, according to the document, from 1968, and believed by the Church, certainly by Pope John Paul II, and the current Pope, is the precursor/the parent of abortion, not the other way around.

Yet those who would put him and the Jesuits down, see nothing wrong with promoting or having a favorable opinion toward birth control.

But The Jesuits go back centuries, and are certainly not, by foundation, contrary to the Church.

That is where this Pope is from. He would not have been elected had he been contrary to the Church.

The media reports on him like Candy Crowley supports conservatives. No truth.

Of course.


19 posted on 11/18/2013 5:58:47 PM PST by stanne
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