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Dick Cheney 'Pained' by Public Flap, Sides With Daughter Liz
Newsmax.com ^ | 11/19/2013 | Cathy Burke

Posted on 11/19/2013 5:23:53 AM PST by RoosterRedux

Former Vice President Dick Cheney took the side of his U.S. Senate candidate daughter Liz in her high-profile spat over gay marriage with lesbian sister Mary, saying Monday that he was "pained" that the family dispute had become so public, Politico reported.

Cheney and his wife, Lynne, issued a statement noting that the gay-rights issue was one "we have dealt with privately for many years."

"[We] are pained to see it become public," the parents wrote. "Since it has, one thing should be clear. Liz has always believed in the traditional definition of marriage."

The parents said Liz Cheney "has also always treated her sister and her sister's family with love and respect, exactly as she should have done. Compassion is called for, even when there is disagreement about such a fundamental matter, and Liz's many kindnesses shouldn't be used to distort her position."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: cheney2014; dickcheney; homosexualagenda; lizcheney; samesexmarriage; wy2014

1 posted on 11/19/2013 5:23:53 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

RE: Sides With Daughter Liz

This sounds like a flip-flop to me.


2 posted on 11/19/2013 5:24:51 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

He wants his daughter elected, I guess.

I blame Mary Chaney, who like all modern-day gays, has decided to become a professional gay. That means it’s gay, gay, gay, every day, every minute. And anyone who disagrees must be publically called out and humiliated.

We saw this with Gingrich’s half sister.


3 posted on 11/19/2013 5:29:05 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: SeekAndFind

>> This sounds like a flip-flop to me.

Sounds like a manufactured solution to an awkward problem, to me. I bet it’s phony too; Liz doesn’t oppose homosex any more now than she ever did. Dad and Mary are in on it. Mary’s payoff will come AFTER sister Liz gets elected to the Senate and votes the “right” way (or so they connive).


4 posted on 11/19/2013 5:31:34 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cheney has always tried to thread the needle with this issue. It’s clear he shares Liz’s opinion, but never wanted to throw his gay daughter under the bus. She chose to make this a public family debate. I would hate to be in his shoes.


5 posted on 11/19/2013 5:32:09 AM PST by catbertz
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To: RoosterRedux

If your pained, then you do not believe in what you say.


6 posted on 11/19/2013 5:35:41 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: RoosterRedux

Dick Cheney is a beltway insider who makes conservative noises and his daughter Liz follows in his footsteps.

I don’t agree with Mark Levin on this senate race. I don’t care who wins......


7 posted on 11/19/2013 5:38:33 AM PST by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN)
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To: RoosterRedux

The question is not: Should gay marriage be legal?

The question is: Why is government involved in marriage?


8 posted on 11/19/2013 5:40:15 AM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Yep. It’s going to he an interesting holiday season in the Cheney household.


9 posted on 11/19/2013 5:45:05 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: RoosterRedux

DC fakes. Don’t be fooled.


10 posted on 11/19/2013 5:47:38 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Nextrush

I care who wins. It shouldn’t be a Democrat or a Cheney.


11 posted on 11/19/2013 5:49:00 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: RoosterRedux

There is zero reason to trust the Cheney’s on this. This public spat looks manufactured.

Dick Cheney has already come out for end to DADT and for same sex marraige now he is pulling a Kerry to help Liz get elected. The lesbo isnt running for anything.


12 posted on 11/19/2013 5:53:00 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: RoosterRedux

The little spat amongst the Cheneys is as real as a professional wrestling match.


13 posted on 11/19/2013 6:01:12 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Takes side with his straight daughter while claiming that his perverted daughter has a “family” with another woman.

Anybody else see the rank hypocrisy in that statement?


14 posted on 11/19/2013 6:26:26 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Nextrush
I don’t agree with Mark Levin on this senate race. I don’t care who wins......

Mark Levin is pathetic on Senate endorsements these days. For every Cruz there is a Orrin Hatch.

15 posted on 11/19/2013 6:31:17 AM PST by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: RoosterRedux
"Compassion is called for, even when there is disagreement about such a fundamental matter, and Liz's many kindnesses shouldn't be used to distort her position."

Dick, meet Free Republic. You didn't kill your daughter or throw her under the bus, so you're a gay-loving RINO.

16 posted on 11/19/2013 7:02:43 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (We're At That Awkward Stage: It's too late to vote them out, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Love the sinner; hate the sin.


17 posted on 11/19/2013 7:13:47 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: miss marmelstein
"I blame Mary Chaney, who like all modern-day gays, has decided to become a professional gay. That means it’s gay, gay, gay, every day, every minute. And anyone who disagrees must be publically called out and humiliated."

This is exactly what has happened with my friend, whose sister decided she was a lesbian and ended up "marrying" another woman. The sister holds the entire family hostage, threatening to deprive them of her presence unless they constantly offer praise for her lifestyle. Disagreement results in tantrums, and more than one holiday gathering has resulted in the lesbian couple storming out.

18 posted on 11/19/2013 8:11:55 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: CatherineofAragon; miss marmelstein

When they’re constantly sticking it in your face and demanding approval, I believe it’s because they know it’s wrong, and want you to validate their incorrect choice.

I have gay neighbors. They mind their own business, they’re not “in your face”, they’re friendly, and they don’t demand approval. Which is why we get along so well.


19 posted on 11/19/2013 8:27:42 AM PST by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Gays are like illegals or islamophiliacs. They claim we have to be friends with haters and xenophobes who have no respect for our freedom in or der to be free.

So now you are an isolationist if you do not import... isolationists.

These people of the GOPe are retarded. They count beans regardless the quality of the beans. At least democrats make the evil beans, but the GOPe does the leg work of selling them.

They are all fabians.

I’ll give communists their dues: the GOPe is indeed selling the ropes with which we and them will be hanged wih.


20 posted on 11/19/2013 9:08:18 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: jimt
"When they’re constantly sticking it in your face and demanding approval, I believe it’s because they know it’s wrong, and want you to validate their incorrect choice."

I believe you're exactly right. The meltdown that results when approval is withheld tends to prove it, IMO.

I don't understand allowing one family member to terrorize the rest. If it were my sister threatening to vanish from get-togethers, my response would be, "Guess we'll have to muddle through. 'Bye."

21 posted on 11/19/2013 9:08:26 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: SoConPubbie

No, I don’t. What is hypocrisy, is Rob Portman of Ohio claiming to be against homo marriage, but then after his son comes out, switched his stance in support of homo marriage. What do expect Dick to do, ostracize his homo daughter?


22 posted on 11/19/2013 9:41:49 AM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: SgtHooper

No, I don’t. What is hypocrisy, is Rob Portman of Ohio claiming to be against homo marriage, but then after his son comes out, switched his stance in support of homo marriage. What do expect Dick to do, ostracize his homo daughter?

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Yes, he should go public with his disapproval of his daughter — because she went public with her crusade in favor of gay marriage. Today, too many parents care more about their degenerate kids rejecting them than they care about Biblical moral standards. They are going to suffer the fate of the Biblical Eli after he refused to discipline his evil sons.


23 posted on 11/19/2013 10:40:29 AM PST by Socon-Econ ( is no model of USA-style democracy)
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To: miss marmelstein

Mary supported her dad though, so it seems she was p-whipped by the ol’ ball and chain into this spat.


24 posted on 11/19/2013 10:46:04 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: catbertz
Cheney has always tried to thread the needle with this issue. It’s clear he shares Liz’s opinion, but never wanted to throw his gay daughter under the bus.

Bull, Dick and Liz Cheney have been strongly pro-gay for years, this is the sleaziest, most cynical political lying that we have seen since Romney, since this one uses elaborate theatrics at the full family level for national consumption, in some ways it is worse.

25 posted on 11/19/2013 10:49:16 AM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: Salvation

It’s a simple answer. Just compare it to smoking. You don’t approve of your family member smoking but that doesn’t mean you disown them.


26 posted on 11/19/2013 10:50:51 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: Salvation

And it doesn’t stop you from advocating that people shouldn’t start smoking.


27 posted on 11/19/2013 10:51:15 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: miss marmelstein

Agree completely.


28 posted on 11/19/2013 10:56:24 AM PST by DPMD
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To: SeekAndFind
He supports Liz and "takes her side" in the argument because she's the one running for office. That doesn't actually mean he really agrees with her.

On the other hand, maybe he only "supports gay marriage" because Mary is his daughter and he doesn't want to alienate her. Maybe he doesn't really care one way or the other.

Tough to be a dad.

29 posted on 11/19/2013 11:01:08 AM PST by x
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To: RoosterRedux

Unlike Enzi, the 46-year-old daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney supports the right for states to legalize gay marriage. At least that’s what she said in 2009, in an interview with MSNBC, of all places. At that was a time when the notion of same-sex marriage had considerably less support.

And that has even Daily Kos writer Scott Welch offering at least limited praise for Liz Cheney. Cheney, Welch writes:

“”Well, look I think, you know, my family has been very clear about this, that we think freedom means freedom for everybody and that this is an issue that states have to decide for themselves.””

“”She went on to reiterate opposition to a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, expressed support for the State Department’s extension of benefits to same-sex couples, and said, ‘I think it’s wrong to discriminate, in those relationships, based on someone’s sexual preference.’ Additionally, she supported repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell.””


30 posted on 11/19/2013 11:08:52 AM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: JediJones; Salvation
It’s a simple answer. Just compare it to smoking. You don’t approve of your family member smoking but that doesn’t mean you disown them.

Sadly, your simple answer, is all wrong where Christianity is concerned.

When someone is caught in an outright sin like Homosexuality, lying, stealing, etc., the New Testament defines the exact Four step process of resolving the issue:

1. You personally confront/counsel the person just between you concerning the sin.
2. IF that does not work, you take two or three others with you and confront/counsel the person concerning the sin.
3. If that does not work, you take the person in front of the church/congregation, etc. and attempt to confront/counsel the person.
4. If the person caught in the sin still refuses to repent, you separate yourself from them.

There is no equivocation on this process, it is simple and straightforward.

Elsewhere, the New Testament counsels us not to cast our pearls before swine (those that refuse to hear) and to figuratively shake the dust off the soles of our feet with respect to those who refuse to listen to the Gospel.

Like I said, the bible is simple and direct, and if we really want to have a positive outcome, that is, that those caught in sin are freed from it, we'll have to Obey God.

If Obeying Christ is important to you, you will need to heed his directions.

If Obeying Christ is not important to you, I guess any approach is OK with you, but don't expect any positive results, nor expect to honestly be able to declare you have any principles with regards to the sin involved, whatever it is.
31 posted on 11/19/2013 11:12:11 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: RoosterRedux

05/09/2012 ——Gay Conservative Groups: Good Obama Adopted (DICK)Cheney Position On Same-Sex Marriage:
“”Both groups, Log Cabin Republicans and GOProud, also made specific mention of former Vice President Dick Cheney, downplaying Obama’s statement because the Republican embraced same-sex marriage first.””

07/30/12——Dick Cheney Defends His Silence On Gay Marriage In 2000:
“”WASHINGTON — Dick Cheney says he didn’t see the point of raising the issue of gay marriage in the 2000 presidential campaign, even though he supported it.
The former vice president suggested it wouldn’t have done much good and probably would have sunk President George W. Bush’s prospects for office.””

02/17/2012——Dick Cheney Part Of Marriage Equality Lobbying Effort In Maryland: Report:
“”WASHINGTON — Dick Cheney is part of a lobbying campaign to convince at least one Maryland state lawmaker to back marriage equality, the Baltimore Sun reported on Thursday. Since leaving the vice president’s office, Cheney has been increasingly vocal in his support for same-sex marriage, but the extent of his engagement on the issue was not previously well known.””


32 posted on 11/19/2013 11:22:51 AM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: x

See post 32, Dick Cheney wanted to openly support gay marriage, back in the year 2000.

The Cheneys are playing games.


33 posted on 11/19/2013 11:40:38 AM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: Socon-Econ

Public...

How did we find out about this in the first place?


34 posted on 11/19/2013 2:36:00 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Well, now that will pretty much empty the churches.


35 posted on 11/19/2013 2:38:04 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: RoosterRedux
the family dispute had become so public,

Gee, since when has the MSM ever gotten involved in a family's personal politics in order to influence public opinion..........?


36 posted on 11/19/2013 2:43:20 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I don't call "911", in my house, I AM '911"....)
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To: miss marmelstein

Well, at least she’s not run over to Liz’s house and tried to stab her in the head.


37 posted on 11/19/2013 2:52:13 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: SgtHooper
Well, now that will pretty much empty the churches.

Maybe, but maybe not if they are actually preaching ALL of the Gospel and not just the parts they think will put butts in the pews.

Remember, Jesus stated very clearly that the path to heavan was a narrow path and few would choose it, while the path to hell was a wide path and many would choose it.

The True Gospel will offend many, some of which will choose to ignore the offence or get over it and obey God, but many will not.
38 posted on 11/19/2013 3:22:17 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: RoosterRedux

We are instructed to love the sinner, hate the sin. Sounds like Liz and her Dad are living up to that. Life is hard when someone you love sins, but piling on adds nothing to the debate. Liz has expressed her position clearly. Let’s all move on.


39 posted on 11/19/2013 3:29:12 PM PST by tioga ( With RR we had JCash and BHope, with Obama no cash and no hope.)
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To: Salvation
Love the sinner; hate the sin.Amen.
40 posted on 11/19/2013 3:31:16 PM PST by tioga ( With RR we had JCash and BHope, with Obama no cash and no hope.)
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To: JediJones

Yeah, it’s usually the ball ‘n chain who starts all the trouble. I’ve noticed that, too.


41 posted on 11/20/2013 5:21:49 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: SoConPubbie

True, there is no doubt in my mind that should your position become mandatory or widely followed, it would revolutionize society and the church. I have always been critical of the accommodations made by religions over the Bible teachings to “accept different lifestyles” and behaviors, the only benefit of which is to increase church attendance, and not what is strictly taught in the Bible. All I can say is that your position has given me pause.


42 posted on 11/20/2013 2:39:29 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Frankly, Mary holds her ideaology over her own family.

She’s, frankly, a “dick”.


43 posted on 11/20/2013 2:46:34 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Mary Cheney sounds a total brat to me.


44 posted on 11/21/2013 5:35:31 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: tioga
We are instructed to love the sinner, hate the sin. Sounds like Liz and her Dad are living up to that.

Liz and "dad", both support gay marriage, and have for years. Why keep pretending differently?

"Unlike Enzi, the 46-year-old daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney supports the right for states to legalize gay marriage. At least that’s what she said in 2009, in an interview with MSNBC, of all places. At that was a time when the notion of same-sex marriage had considerably less support.
And that has even Daily Kos writer Scott Welch offering at least limited praise for Liz Cheney."

“”Well, look I think, you know, my family has been very clear about this, that we think freedom means freedom for everybody and that this is an issue that states have to decide for themselves.””

“”She went on to reiterate opposition to a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, expressed support for the State Department’s extension of benefits to same-sex couples, and said, ‘I think it’s wrong to discriminate, in those relationships, based on someone’s sexual preference.’ Additionally, she supported repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell.””

45 posted on 11/21/2013 6:37:52 PM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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