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Mass. consumers cannot keep canceled health plans
Yahoo Finance ^

Posted on 11/19/2013 7:27:03 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

BOSTON (AP) -- Massachusetts' top insurance official said Monday that the state won't allow consumers to keep health insurance policies that fall below the minimum requirements of the federal health care law.

State Insurance Commissioner Joseph Murphy said in a letter sent Monday to the Obama administration that substandard insurance policies are "virtually non-existent" in Massachusetts because of its first-in-the-nation health care law that took effect in 2007.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: aca; exchanges; massachusetts; obamacare; youcankeepit

1 posted on 11/19/2013 7:27:03 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

I guess if you live in Mass., you’ll take it in the . . . nether regions.


2 posted on 11/19/2013 7:30:03 AM PST by BipolarBob
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To: Red in Blue PA

Bump


3 posted on 11/19/2013 7:30:46 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: Red in Blue PA

SURPRISE, SURPRISE!

Choke on it. You bought it, you own it.

4 posted on 11/19/2013 7:31:14 AM PST by Kenton
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To: Red in Blue PA

As a resident of the Bay State, I can say with some authority that:

1. Health insurance costs a fortune here; and,
2. Those who manage to scrape together enough cash to furnish their own health insurance are being dunned yearly to pay for those busily sucking away at the public teat.

In other words, don’t bother to weep for the Birthplace of American Liberty - it fell to the Marxists long ago.


5 posted on 11/19/2013 7:34:11 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Red in Blue PA

HAHA, MA Romney-care which Obama keeps saying is the model for Obamacare isnt good enough (expensive enough) for the obamacare mandates.


6 posted on 11/19/2013 7:34:14 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Red in Blue PA

Apparently, Massachusetts’ top insurance officials have not heard the decree from King Barrack I that all in the land shall honor the law that he did not honor and lie about.


7 posted on 11/19/2013 7:35:20 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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8 posted on 11/19/2013 7:35:26 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Kenton

No surprises in mASS! Don;t they already have Romneycare? One could argue that if Romney was elected, he would have successfully gave the entire country Romneycare...such is the state of our declining civilization.


9 posted on 11/19/2013 7:35:44 AM PST by gr8eman (Bandying nice with wannabe commies is over! You're either for freedom or you're not!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I'm having a bad second term.


10 posted on 11/19/2013 7:38:24 AM PST by McGruff (Obama lied. Period!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Liar!
Three Dog Night

I won’t ever leave while you want me to stay
Nothing you could do that would turn me away
Hanging on every word
Believing the things I heard
Being a fool
You’ve taken my life, so take my soul
That’s what you said and I believed it all
I want to be with you as long
As you want me to
I won’t move away
Ain’t that what you said?
Ain’t that what you said?
Ain’t that what you said?
Liar, liar, liar
May I see no night
May I see no day
If I ever leave while you want me to stay
You can believe in me
I won’t be leaving
I won’t let you go
Ain’t that what you said?
Ain’t that what you said?
Ain’t that what you said?
Liar, liar, liar


11 posted on 11/19/2013 7:39:46 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Kenton

Never Again is Here Again

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052970203706604574374463280098676


12 posted on 11/19/2013 7:41:20 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Red in Blue PA

I love this headline. Think about it. In America? Our founders have to be spinning in their graves. Perhaps so fast, it will change the gravitational pull of the planet. REALLY? End the Progressive nightmare already.


13 posted on 11/19/2013 7:41:47 AM PST by LALALAW (one of the asses who's sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I was wondering how Mass. would handle the Obamacare fiasco since it’s a state run health care system.


14 posted on 11/19/2013 7:42:37 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: BipolarBob

Actually, I think the point is that if you live in Mass you already take it in the nether regions.

The point seeming to be that since Mass already mandates plans in excess of federal requirements, there aren’t going to be a heck of a lot of cancellations.


15 posted on 11/19/2013 7:43:18 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Red in Blue PA

And like a bunch of lemmings they will march in lockstep and vote democrat next time and every time.


16 posted on 11/19/2013 7:43:29 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Red Badger

I love that song!


17 posted on 11/19/2013 7:44:18 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

It’s sooooooooooo apropos...........


18 posted on 11/19/2013 7:50:36 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Red Badger

Yes it is!!!


19 posted on 11/19/2013 7:51:52 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Obamacare breaks Romneycare!


20 posted on 11/19/2013 7:52:16 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Red in Blue PA

This is a likely outcome for most states, frankly. If I were an Attorney General in a state that had that question, allow continuance of an insurance plan that is ILLEGAL by Federal Law (ACA), I’d advise the top state officer (Governor) to follow established law, regardless of what Idi Amin DaDa Obama says he’s gonna do. It does not absolve the state from liability from lawsuits re: allowing its citizens to be harmed (in any manner they choose to litigate).


21 posted on 11/19/2013 7:52:57 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: gr8eman

He would have. He would have used the power of the Federal purse as an incentive for the states to all adopt Romneycare. And he might have had a federal tax credit instead of a mandate penalty. The math works the same but one is more acceptable.

Better that socialism comes from the democrats than from Rinos.


22 posted on 11/19/2013 7:55:11 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: BipolarBob

Blue State Red State divide widens more each day under Obama the unifier.


23 posted on 11/19/2013 7:58:33 AM PST by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: tanknetter

I thought RomneyCare was better then O-care and people were already forced to use that?


24 posted on 11/19/2013 8:06:50 AM PST by edcoil (System now set up not to allow some to win but for no one to lose!)
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To: Jack Hammer

After visiting Boston, part of me has a fantasy of moving to MA. Then I read posts like yours (and articles like this) and realize even though I could survive being surrounded by liberals, we could not financially survive. Can’t even get a shack for the price of our small 1200 sq. foot house anywhere within an hour of BOS.


25 posted on 11/19/2013 8:11:13 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: edcoil

I think that’s what’s being said here. RomneyCare is “better” (or at least more stringent) than ObamaCare, so old “substandard” policies won’t be uncancelled.

Remember that ObamaCare is a floor. Nothing stopping states from going beyond it.


26 posted on 11/19/2013 8:17:30 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Red in Blue PA

Paleface Lizzy Warren say, “The buffalo squat on the prairie to make more Obama promises!”


27 posted on 11/19/2013 8:36:56 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Jack Hammer

I am also a resident, and about 7 years ago I was out of work for some time and the state was going to force me to buy health Insurance that I could not afford, so I didn’t, well, because, I couldn’t. I love this area of the country, and jobs are a-plenty here (lots of high-tech and health-care jobs) so as difficult as it is to be surrounded by liberal zombies, the Northeast is a great place to be. I have had to limit my exposure to the uniformed socialist agenda, but am also pretty quick to put them in their place with real facts. It’s kind of fun, actually.


28 posted on 11/19/2013 8:41:27 AM PST by bridgemanusa (loan MA Conservative)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Massachusetts' 2006 health care law became the blueprint for the federal law signed by Obama in 2010

What a crock.

Pelosi and Reid's bill was a huge grab bag of garbage thrown in by every left-wing kook in DC.

There was no blueprint...just the actions of a bunch of nuts who wanted whatever they could get from the goodie-box.

29 posted on 11/19/2013 11:22:41 AM PST by what's up
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To: Red in Blue PA

I do not know whether my policy will renew or not. Currently with a $3000 annual deductible I pay $17500 p.a. for my BCBSMA policy. So essentially I pay $20,000+ per year for medical expenses for 2 healthy 64 year olds.


30 posted on 11/19/2013 11:55:03 AM PST by bjc (Show me the data!)
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To: rwfromkansas

Don’t move to Boston.

I had to move back to Boston. As part of that move, I’m on Romneycare. It costs me $250 less per month for better insurance than I had in California.

I’m not promoting Romneycare. Just telling you what the numbers worked out to be.


31 posted on 11/19/2013 12:29:40 PM PST by bobcat62
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To: Red in Blue PA

The actual mechanics don’t matter - Obama made the gesture, so in the liberal mind he’s off the hook.


32 posted on 11/19/2013 12:34:37 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Red in Blue PA; All
The arrogance in this interview, aka we do it better here bla bla bla. No you don't Mass... Does anyone here listen to Howie Carr? He has been on a screed how Romneycare is costing the State a fortune and they are cutting back everywhere and won't talk about old police cars, deferred maintenance of State and Muni assets as the State of Mass goes broke...
33 posted on 11/19/2013 12:41:24 PM PST by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Murphy said in an interview that about 100,000 Massachusetts residents will need to change to what he called a slightly modified health insurance plan. For example, some consumers might have to change to a lower deductible, he said.

Gosh, that's a reassuring example. You have to wonder, however, at what the real figures are: how many people's premiums will increase, and how many people's deductible will go up? The Guv could have shared that data with us, because it's certainly available. Wonder why he didn't?

34 posted on 11/19/2013 12:42:16 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: rwfromkansas

My own, personal advice: DON’T come to Massachusetts.

I’d leave if I had someplace to go where there were friends and family and, just as important, a significant ratio of conservatives.

I’m old enough now that I have one foot in the grave, but this is no place for someone starting out, or even in middle age.


35 posted on 11/19/2013 1:23:24 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: bridgemanusa

Glad you’re enjoying yourself; me, I hate it.

But I’m an Old Man, I’ve lived here all my life, and I just can’t see pulling up stakes and going someplace else for the few years I have left.

Still, I constantly dream of Texas, Arizona, Wyoming, Montana... places like that - wide open spaces with no dippy liberals breathing down my neck.


36 posted on 11/19/2013 1:26:04 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: rwfromkansas
After visiting Boston, part of me has a fantasy of moving to MA. Then I read posts like yours (and articles like this) and realize even though I could survive being surrounded by liberals, we could not financially survive. Can’t even get a shack for the price of our small 1200 sq. foot house anywhere within an hour of BOS.

Don't even THINK of moving to Red England; especially Assachsuetts. It's a 'tar baby'...you move there; then you can't get away. My wife and I had some relatively mild medical issues which have now become life-threatening due to the STRESS of dealing with the people. (Why am I here? The same reason other southerners are here...frickin' in-laws.) I do not wish to die on Red England soil, but I fear with each passing day that I will never get away.

Save yourself...and your family.

37 posted on 11/19/2013 1:28:22 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: tanknetter

“Actually, I think the point is that if you live in Mass you already take it in the nether regions.”

not if you’re like a third generation welfare recipient.
you get the best medical care in the world for free, free housing, food stamps, cash allowance, obamaphone, and a boston media that never does a negative story about it.


38 posted on 11/19/2013 3:18:48 PM PST by willywill
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To: DannyTN

“Trumps” is a better word. Here in the Gay-State, we’re seeing an exodus of capable doctors, mitigated only by the fact that we have so many excellent medical schools locally. The situation will continue to get worse unless the AHCA is repealed.


39 posted on 11/19/2013 6:34:46 PM PST by MSF BU (n)
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To: willywill

Good point, and quite true.


40 posted on 11/19/2013 6:35:15 PM PST by MSF BU (n)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I guess RomneyCare wasn’t much of a fix after all


41 posted on 11/19/2013 6:35:58 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: MSF BU

Venezuela is now dictating prices to retail stores, shelves are empty.

Their “lead looter” is more popular than ever


42 posted on 11/19/2013 6:38:05 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

Well the productive class has been fleeing there for a while. Given some of the Venezuelan ladies I have met here attending school, I wish more would arrive. There is always a silver lining.


43 posted on 11/19/2013 6:42:47 PM PST by MSF BU (n)
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To: who knows what evil?

I agree generally, but the middle of the Commonwealth is generally a nice, affordable place to live if you can find a job. By that I mean west of 495 to Springfield. Long ago when there was a Fort Devens, new arrivals were pleasantly surprised at how nice it was there and quite a few retired to the area.


44 posted on 11/19/2013 6:46:23 PM PST by MSF BU (n)
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To: MSF BU

Trumps is better. I struggled with that post knowing that Romneycare was already broken.


45 posted on 11/19/2013 7:03:18 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Jack Hammer

I enjoy Texas except for the hot summers. I don’t foresee us ever actually moving to MA since owning a house is a requirement. Even in NH the housing costs are ridiculous. While I may go back to the Midwest (like 4 full seasons we don’t get in TX), Texas has been very good to us. Live in one of the only ‘boom’ areas in the country right now.


46 posted on 11/19/2013 8:39:51 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: who knows what evil?

Thanks. I don’t think it ever will actually happen. We could never go back to an apartment or something after owning our own house, and buying would not be possible even in NH even with the higher salaries.

Texas has been very good to us. I loved it when visiting, but there are some places that are good to visit but never actually live at.


47 posted on 11/19/2013 8:42:21 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Jack Hammer

I wouldn’t say I enjoy myself all the time, but I deal with it because of my family.

Oddly, (and I know I might be going from bad to worse), Vermont might be a destination in my future. Not just for the landscape and remoteness, but the fact that they may be one of the most 2nd amendment friendly states (next to Texas) in the country. It’s easy to ignore liberals because most of what comes out of their mouth is vomit.


48 posted on 11/20/2013 7:18:48 AM PST by bridgemanusa (loan MA Conservative)
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To: rwfromkansas
Thanks. I don’t think it ever will actually happen. We could never go back to an apartment or something after owning our own house, and buying would not be possible even in NH even with the higher salaries.

You should get down on your knees this evening and thank G-d you were spared from making this mistake. :-)

49 posted on 11/20/2013 9:22:24 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
I thought Mitt “fixed” the Massachusetts health care insurance system a long time ago....
50 posted on 11/20/2013 10:34:01 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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