Skip to comments.Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"
Posted on 11/19/2013 9:16:51 AM PST by Third Person
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: Senator, when Obamacare was at issue, a month ago, when it came to a continuing resolution to funding the government you supported a filibuster of other Senators, who demanded that you had to have a change or the abolition of Obamacare as a condition for funding the government. In retrospect do you think that was a good strategy? But even more importantly --looking ahead, the deadlines are coming up, the resolution's going to run out, we're going to hit the debt ceiling soon -- would you be prepared to use same tactic as we approach the new deadlines? SEN. RAND PAUL (R-KY): Well, I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.
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Ha! Ha! Ha!
Sad, but funny.
Rand Paul, we had such high hopes for you, and lately, you seem to stoop to whatever level you need to to disappoint conservatives, and signal your loyalty to the GOP-E.
He’s been getting a little too close with Mitch McConnell. I’m starting to view Rand with skepticism.
Buh bye, Rand.
We hardly knew ye.
Like father like son...
“Rand Paul On Shutdown: “Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea”
It appeared that you were participating in it because you were participating in it.
And in case we didn’t know Rand was a moron posing as a prez contender...
we do now.
Rand, if you are going to ride the fence like that, wear a cup.
The democrats shut down government.
Because highlighting the failures of Obamacare was a bad idea until the Democrats got onboard to demand its repeal.
That certainly narrows the field.
Wow, what a backstabber!
First, Scott Walker now Rand Paul ..many having CRUZ MISSILE envy lately .
Is this the guy who produced that terrific fillibuster? I’m going with that guy, if you please.
Ted Cruz for President in 2016!
No. Walker is for amnesty, which is an incredibly indefensible, destructive and irrational position that can only be the final nail in this country's coffin.
The shutdown was a dumb idea.
It cost billions of dollars and accomplished nothing.
He was agin it befer he was fer it.
He’s gone RINO. He has decided to join the losers.
“what a backstabber”
Huh? Do you know anyone who was in favor of the shutdown?
well just d@##. This is disappointing to hear.
Ted Cruz is certainly clearer. He says he was not for the shutdown because he was for funding all parts of the government except Obamacare. Not sure how much clearer anyone can make the GOP position.
Looks like Rand has moved from Tea Party to GOPe.
Yeah, me and about everybody else on this board except you.
Do they threaten these guys? Threaten their children? How does this stuff happen again and again? There is ZERO doubt Rand Paul knows the score and knows what we are up against.
It’s really disappointing that so many of our workhorses aren’t solidly behind Cruz. Wonder why? Why did Cuccinelli distance himself from Ted?
It would require a 25% spending cut to balance the federal budget (assuming that a tax increase wouldn’t wouldn’t work because it wouldn’t increase revenue). Now I have to assume that Rand Paul would consider that an even dumber idea.
Let me see now........he was for it before he was against it.......
These guys are witnessing the single biggest opportunity to win the favor of the American public since Reagan, and instead of pointing out constantly and consistently the evils of Bambicare and the progressive totalitarian philosophy, they fumble around like buffoons trying to ingratiate themselves with the DNC media.
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
And of course you realize that it was Harry Reid who actually shut down the government and not Cruz and Lee...right?
But, far be it from Rand to step up and accept the accolades.
Him and his naturally curly hair.
“many of our workhorses arent solidly behind Cruz”
Cruz always said he was against the shutdown. He joined rallies to reopen the Washington monuments, etc.. You have been misinformed about his position.
Incorrect. It put us firmly on the side of being Anti-Obamacare and the Dems for it.
And in the coming year, you will see why that is so important.
“And of course you realize that it was Harry Reid who actually shut down the government and not Cruz and Lee...right?”
Exactly. And you are in favor of the shutdown, defend what they did, called Rand a backstabber, etc..
We’ve got the Democrats on the ropes and what does Rand do?
He changes the focus back to Republicans cutting entitlements. Rand Paul and Paul Ryan are the best election strategists that the democrats have.
Strike Two !
The shutdown was over Obamacare. Obamacare is a disaster. What part of this does Rand Paul not understand?
Uhm, no I haven’t. What I’m saying is I wish more of our conservative workhorses (Walker, Cuccinelli, Perry etc) were solidly behind Cruz... or even on board with him.
Really had no intention of writing replies today until I saw that comment.
The shutdown was essentially a neutral event financially...Where do you see costs?
Government procurement and it's related contracts are costs as they confiscate money from the private sector to pay for it. Money that could have been used to fund economic growth...
There was no increased or decreased costs. All the payroll was paid, all the contracts survived, and nobody other than people who thrive on government services were inconvenienced at all, if only temporarily..
You got that opinion from the media, did you not? You know....the same media that makes up stuff to create a narrative so that they can report on it.
If I were totally dependent for a salary, or business from the Federal government, I would be making changes now...because later will be too late.
There will come a point in time where this government can no longer function. It's fiat money will be of no value for any purchase other than at the government store, and shortly after that, there will be no more stores or services..It will all be ashes. Those who are so dependent on government that they cannot cut the cord will surely die...and the government won't be there to save your sorry butts...
I’ve heard that, but I also heard it was not true I frankly do not know (whether Cooch distanced himself from ted)
He was against it before he was for it.
Well, we didn’t see Sarah or Ted in VA, just Ron Paul... we should have won that seat. Probably did, too, except for fraud.
showing that the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Can only fake it so long and the reality of him comes to the front...
So, Rand is a go-along-to-get-along type of guy?
If he has no backbone to stand for what he supports or is against, why would we expect him to have any backboad in the future?
His appearance on the Fox Panel last night was not his finest hour. When Krauthammer turned the subject to foreign policy and specifically Iran, he turned into his father, before then turning into jelly.
Rand Paul is NOT A CONSERVATIVE!
His followers need to wake up. Hint: Randmesty folks need to Read SunkenCiv post...