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Obama reportedly to pen letter to Afghan people admitting 'mistakes,' as part of security deal
foxnews.com ^ | 11/19/13 | foxnews/ap

Posted on 11/19/2013 11:39:30 AM PST by ColdOne

U.S. and Afghan officials reportedly have reached a tentative agreement on a critical security pact -- which would include President Obama writing a letter to the Afghan people acknowledging mistakes during the "war on terror."

According to Reuters, an Afghan spokesman said Tuesday that Obama agreed to write the letter, to be presented with the draft security pact at a meeting of tribal elders later this week.

The New York Times, citing a spokesman for Afghan President Hamid Karzai, reported that Secretary of State John Kerry proposed the letter in a conversation with Karzai.

Karzai asked that Obama sign it, and Kerry reportedly agreed. The letter apparently helped them reach a tentative deal authorizing U.S. raids on Afghan homes in certain circumstances, which had been an area of disagreement.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; afghanwar; apologytour; iran; mistakesweremade; newyork; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; obama; obamaapology; obamaforeignpolicy; obamaswar; pakistan; paleolibs; rop; therightwar; waronterror

1 posted on 11/19/2013 11:39:30 AM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne
Really, what would be appropriate is one directed towards the American people.


2 posted on 11/19/2013 11:40:57 AM PST by Robert Teesdale
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To: ColdOne

Mistakes from the Drone King that recently claimed that he is really good at killing people?


3 posted on 11/19/2013 11:41:58 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: ColdOne

Mistake #1: Going into Afghanistan absent the will to kill every last person in that country.

In 4,000 years of history every single army that has entered Afghanistan has been subjected to a meat grinder because the invader was unwilling to annihilate the Afghans.

Anyone not willing to annhilate those people needs to stay out or else they should not be surprised when they learn the same painful lessons as every invader since Alexander.


4 posted on 11/19/2013 11:42:57 AM PST by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: ColdOne
Because he's Muslim, he will apologize for America fighting against Muslims.

Barry apologizing for America fighting a war on terror is treason of the highest order.

5 posted on 11/19/2013 11:43:29 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: ColdOne
I can see it now: “Dear Afghan people, my predeccessor, George W. Bush, made mistakes...”
6 posted on 11/19/2013 11:43:44 AM PST by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: ColdOne

Eff you soetoro.


7 posted on 11/19/2013 11:43:48 AM PST by onedoug
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To: ColdOne

Did he promise: “If you like your 9th century culture you can keep it”?


8 posted on 11/19/2013 11:44:59 AM PST by almcbean
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To: ColdOne

9 posted on 11/19/2013 11:53:05 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: ColdOne
America's two biggest mistakes in the war on terror were

1) Electing Barack Obama

2) Electing Bill Clinton

10 posted on 11/19/2013 11:56:00 AM PST by hometoroost
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To: ColdOne

“Dear Afghan people: I didn’t know there was a war going on in Afghanistan until I read about it in the paper the other day.”


11 posted on 11/19/2013 12:00:15 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: ColdOne

12 posted on 11/19/2013 12:03:48 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: ColdOne

All will depend on what is said and how it is said, in Pashtun. The English translation will be worthless.


13 posted on 11/19/2013 12:04:16 PM PST by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: MeganC

We could have taken Afghanistan quite well, had politicians not dithered the damned thing to failure.

It’s been that way for a long time now.


14 posted on 11/19/2013 12:05:51 PM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

We could have taken ‘the U. S.’ quite well, had politicians not dithered the damned thing to failure.

It’s been that way for a long time now.

couldn’t resist


15 posted on 11/19/2013 12:10:09 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: ColdOne

Sgt. Weeper’s Magical Apology Tour continues.
The magical apology tour is coming to take you away, Democrats ...
What an em-bare-ass-ment. He makes Carter look good.


16 posted on 11/19/2013 12:12:51 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice

Oh yeah, and his horse-faced secretary just rang the dinner bell for China, et al:
“No mo Monroe!” MC Mr. Ed
I’m thinking resignations en masse is the only way to go.
We haven’t had an administration this snake-bit since 1978.


17 posted on 11/19/2013 12:15:54 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: MeganC

Actually, the Rooskies were doing a good job in the ‘80s before the American Stinger missiles made the helicopter gunships ineffective.


18 posted on 11/19/2013 12:17:31 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ColdOne

He should apologize for not wiping the taliban and their mullahs off the map.


19 posted on 11/19/2013 12:20:55 PM PST by soycd
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To: ColdOne; Revolting cat!

Kale eating surrender monkey


20 posted on 11/19/2013 12:24:25 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: knittnmom

21 posted on 11/19/2013 12:25:48 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: tumblindice

Why would this work? newspapers these days are just republishers of press releases.


22 posted on 11/19/2013 12:37:37 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Why would *what* work? Obama & Co. resigning en masse?
Like Clinton, this crowd has no shame, no love of country.
They won’t leave unless he’s impeached by the House and removed by the senate.
Recall Nixon in 1960 and 1974. Whatever you think of him, he could have fought like algore in `60 and Klintoon in `74, but maybe he figured it was best for the country to concede.
He had his reasons, but I wish he had fought. Kennedy and Johnson stole the election and a third-rate burglary doesn’t begin to amount to even one of the many impeachable offenses committed by organ grinder Jarrett and her trained monkey.


23 posted on 11/19/2013 1:27:23 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Compared to this nutter, Benedict Arnold is a national hero.


24 posted on 11/19/2013 1:27:52 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: ColdOne
I think the punk should grovel. But he should be groveling for what he is doing - and not groveling on behalf of us!
25 posted on 11/19/2013 1:55:45 PM PST by Gritty (You can't fix crazy any more than you can fix stupid. Obamacare was never going to work.-Steve Deace)
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To: ColdOne

Shouldn’t THEY apologize to US for 9/11 and everything since?


26 posted on 11/19/2013 2:15:06 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy

yep!


27 posted on 11/19/2013 2:20:54 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11) Hey, Harry Reid.. 1-800-318-2596!)
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To: DuncanWaring
"Actually, the Rooskies were doing a good job in the ‘80s before the American Stinger missiles made the helicopter gunships ineffective."

A fascinating read is The Bear Went over the Mountain, which is a compilation of lessons learned from a Russian military perspective. There is also a companion book, The Other Side Of The Mountain, which is essentially the Afghan perspective.

In short, my take on it was that the old military adage about amateurs talking tactics and professionals talking logistics was turned inside out for the Soviets in the 80s. They had the logistics chain pretty well down, but were very slow to adopt/adapt tactics suitable for the Afghan experience...especially as you noted, once the Afghans got hold of some more sophisticated weapon systems.

28 posted on 11/19/2013 2:37:01 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda



29 posted on 11/19/2013 5:11:57 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: onedoug

Well said.


30 posted on 11/19/2013 5:19:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and applicable across purported ideological lines.)
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To: ColdOne

He is our mistake. Can we give him to them and call it even?


31 posted on 11/19/2013 5:34:45 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

WHAT? No way is that a real cover, Time isn’t that honest. If it is I am buying a subscription to Time lol!


32 posted on 11/19/2013 5:47:22 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Its a Fake I replaced Louis Farraklown with barry soetero hussein millhouse obama...






33 posted on 11/19/2013 6:04:43 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: ColdOne

The most anti-American US official in history?


34 posted on 11/19/2013 7:28:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: MeganC

Please don’t take this personally, but I disagree with your characterization of our action in Afghanistan as a “meat grinder”.

Iwo Jima was a “meat grinder”. We lost as many men each day on iwo Jima as we have lost on average in an entire year, each year since we have been in Afghanistan.

Our military have done an excellent job under the circumstances they have been asked to serve in, especially the way they have been increasingly stabbed in the back and asked to do ever more worthless missions since the Democrats took power in 2006.

Given how they are being increasingly ignored, underfunded, handcuffed and betrayed by the civilian (and some of their own) leadership, we should have brought them home in 2006.


35 posted on 11/19/2013 9:03:01 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: ColdOne

I wish he’d pen a resignation letter!


36 posted on 11/19/2013 9:11:07 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Taxman

This has now been officially denied by Susan Rice,
so chances are good it’s true, kinda puts Obama’s
panties in a twist. Who is he gonna piss off the most?
the Afghanis or us. We’ll see.


37 posted on 11/20/2013 12:12:01 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: MeganC
MeganC @4: "Mistake #1: Going into Afghanistan absent the will to kill every last person in that country."

... aka a Constitutional declaration of war. But then that would require our leaders to have the will to vaporize every last person in Afghanistan.

38 posted on 11/20/2013 4:50:10 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: ColdOne
The only thing 0bama should say in the letter is: we are leaving, if we have to come back, we will level your mountains, and establish Gehenna on your land.

5.56mm

39 posted on 11/20/2013 4:58:10 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: ColdOne

40 posted on 11/20/2013 5:00:12 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: rlmorel

Well said!


41 posted on 11/20/2013 5:02:25 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

OMG, that made me laugh out loud all by myself!

(especially the alllalalalalalalal)


42 posted on 11/20/2013 5:07:04 AM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: rlmorel

My comment was not a condemnation of our honorable troops but a condemnation of the Afghan people as a collective carbuncle on the face of humanity that needs to be lanced, purged, and then disinfected.


43 posted on 11/20/2013 8:29:14 AM PST by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: ColdOne

Why don’t they just make him write:

“I am sorry I am so good at killing people”, 1,000 times?


44 posted on 11/20/2013 1:23:09 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: tet68

Us, most likely, since that is his modus operandi.


45 posted on 11/21/2013 7:33:48 AM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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