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Elián González: My Time In The U.S. 'Marked Me For My Whole Life'
Fox News Latino ^ | 10/19/13 | By Havana (EFE)/Fox News Latino

Posted on 11/19/2013 2:40:27 PM PST by ColdOne

Elian Gonzalez, the object of a 1999-2000 custody squabble involving Washington, Havana and family members on both sides of the Florida Strait, holds a piece of U.S. legislation directly responsible for what he endured then, Cuban official media said Monday.

"They were very sad times for me, which marked me for my whole life. I was never given the chance to have a moment to think about my mother, who as a result of that (U.S.) Cuban Adjustment Act died at sea," the now-19-year-old Gonzalez said last weekend during a Union of Young Communists event.

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TOPICS: Cuba; Miscellaneous; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: castro; clintonlegacy; clintonsfault; communists; cuba; elian
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1 posted on 11/19/2013 2:40:27 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

Brianwashed.


2 posted on 11/19/2013 2:43:44 PM PST by Parmenio
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To: ColdOne

Union of Young Communists event.”

...they write this like it’s everyday and the norm.


3 posted on 11/19/2013 2:44:02 PM PST by albie
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To: ColdOne

Reno and Clinton.

This was worse than Obama.

And there were “conservatives” saying to send him back.


4 posted on 11/19/2013 2:44:41 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ColdOne

Janet Sterno.


5 posted on 11/19/2013 2:44:50 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: ColdOne

How is Cuba like America?

In America all transactions are done in dollars and Cuban pesos are worthless.

Same in Cuba.


6 posted on 11/19/2013 2:46:41 PM PST by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: ColdOne

Well kiddo, if you want to honor the ultimate sacrifice that your Mother made out of love for you, defect to the U.S., denounce Communism, and live the rest of your life as a free man.


7 posted on 11/19/2013 2:47:06 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: ColdOne

FReepers are often incensed at the practice of anchor babies and illegal immigrant children, and yet, want an illegal immigrant forcefully kept in the U.S., against his father’s wishes no less.

I don’t get it.


8 posted on 11/19/2013 2:48:07 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: ColdOne
I was never given the chance to have a moment to think about my mother, who as a result of that (U.S.) Cuban Adjustment Act died at sea," the now-19-year-old Gonzalez said last weekend during a Union of Young Communists event.

The US killed his mother, he now says ... Sad beyond words. God forgive those who let this boy down. Now he's Fidel's little puppet. God forgive those who fought to send him back.

9 posted on 11/19/2013 2:49:13 PM PST by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: fwdude

I think it was as much the manner of the taking of Elian, with SWAT teams and submachine guns that t’d people off.

And, then again many Cubans in America view every person who can leave there as a victory against the evil Castro brothers.

It’s odd that he holds the USA somehow responsible, it’s Cuba that has policies that force people onto rickety boats to escape. His mother made that choice because Cuba sucks. Americans who want to go to Cuba traditionally take jets from Canada or Mexico. If you want to boat to Cuba you can, no one in Miami is going to stop you, and you’ll have the choice of many thousands of very seaworthy boats to use and all the gas or diesel you need at market prices.

He will never be allowed to leave Cuba, at least till the regime falls.


10 posted on 11/19/2013 2:53:38 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: ColdOne

What a shame. Clinton takes the blame for this.


11 posted on 11/19/2013 2:53:53 PM PST by jocon307
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To: ifinnegan

Speaking about the send him back crowd, whatever happened to the logjam of other foreign custody battles that were supposed to be solved by Elian’s return? Never heard a peep about any of them again after that.


12 posted on 11/19/2013 2:53:55 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Jack Black

Every word he says, is crafted by the Regime.


13 posted on 11/19/2013 2:54:11 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Nor will you.


14 posted on 11/19/2013 2:55:00 PM PST by sport
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To: fwdude

You mean against Castro’s wishes. Until it became world news his father didn’t care.


15 posted on 11/19/2013 2:55:52 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: ColdOne

Did Elián González would have choose to stay in U.S. had he knew it’s hell in Cuba?


16 posted on 11/19/2013 2:59:09 PM PST by hamboy
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To: BenLurkin

“Janet Sterno.”

Janet Renal


17 posted on 11/19/2013 2:59:24 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Castro IS Elian’s father.


18 posted on 11/19/2013 3:01:03 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: ColdOne

There, there....that’s a good little Commie....


19 posted on 11/19/2013 3:06:08 PM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: ifinnegan

What conservatives were saying “send him back”?


20 posted on 11/19/2013 3:06:39 PM PST by Deb (If you wanna laugh everyday, follow Deepak Chopra on Twitter)
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To: ColdOne
Elian Gonzalez: When Eric Holder Earned His Spurs

I'd wait till he's long gone before attempting to come back.

21 posted on 11/19/2013 3:20:41 PM PST by McGruff (Obama lied. Period!)
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Napolitano: Tell me, Mr. Holder, why did you not get a court order authorizing you to go in and get the boy (Elian Gonzalez)?

Holder: Because we didn’t need a court order. INS can do this on its own.

Napolitano: You know that a court order would have given you the cloak of respectability to have seized the boy.

Holder: We didn’t need an order.

Napolitano: Then why did you ask the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals for such an order if you didn’t need one?

Holder: [Silence]

Napolitano: The fact is, for the first time in history you have taken a child from his residence at gunpoint to enforce your custody position, even though you did not have an order authorizing it. When is the last time a boy, a child, was taken at the point of a gun without an order of a judge…Unprecedented in American history.”

Holder: “He was not taken at the point of a gun.”

Napolitano: “We have a photograph showing he was taken at the point of a gun.”

Holder: “They were armed agents who went in there who acted very sensitively…”


22 posted on 11/19/2013 3:24:18 PM PST by McGruff (Obama lied. Period!)
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To: ColdOne
the now-19-year-old Gonzalez said last weekend during a Union of Young Communists event.

I'll bet Barack was sad to have missed the event!

23 posted on 11/19/2013 3:25:30 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: fwdude

You don’t get the differences between Cuba and Mexico?


24 posted on 11/19/2013 3:26:20 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Jack Black
He will never be allowed to leave Cuba, at least till the regime falls.

I'm sure that's true. However, after looking at his picture at the link, maybe that's a good thing. He's one angry dude.
25 posted on 11/19/2013 3:32:02 PM PST by Shannon
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To: ColdOne

At the time, I thought the US should have simply granted him citizenship and handed him over to the World Court to decide where he should end up. Since he would have citizenship, he could return at any time. In a few years, his eyes will be opened.


26 posted on 11/19/2013 3:49:52 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Jack Black

Actually, if it wasn’t for Elian Gonzales, I don’t think Bush would have been elected in 2000. The Cuban Community came out strong for Bush as a direct result from this trainwreck.


27 posted on 11/19/2013 3:52:44 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: ColdOne

I don’t judge him negatively because I don’t believe he can freely speak his true feelings


28 posted on 11/19/2013 3:52:49 PM PST by uncitizen (Obama said 'period', but he meant 'asterisk'.)
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To: fwdude

Cubans are legal as soon as they touch US soil. In case you weren’t aware.

Don’t like the law? Change it.


29 posted on 11/19/2013 3:56:04 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: TigersEye

So, if a government wants to KEEP its citizens, you think they should be expatriated. But, if a government wants to EXPORT its citizens illegally to this country, you think we should keep them out. Again, I don’t get the inconsistency.

It’s not a consideration of the type of government, but of our laws of immigration. And please don’t try to contrast Cuba and Mexico. Both are garbage heaps in their own way, with thoroughly corrupt governments. Mexico is every bit as hostile to our way of life as Cuba is.

And, Elian would likely be voting Democrat had he stayed and gain citizenship.


30 posted on 11/19/2013 3:57:25 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: ColdOne
Gonzalez said last weekend during a Union of Young Communists event.

We have those here too.


31 posted on 11/19/2013 3:59:37 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: fwdude

You make an excellent point!

He is now free to live in a communist state for as long as he wishes. His next journey across the pond will not be held so kindly in the freedom loving hearts of Americans.


32 posted on 11/19/2013 3:59:56 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: fwdude
So, if a government wants to KEEP its citizens,...

Interesting characterization of Cuba, comrade.

33 posted on 11/19/2013 4:02:14 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: ifinnegan
They went by the rule of law and returned Elian to his father in Cuba. I'm all for non-citizens being sent home to or with their parents.

Clinton followed the rule of law. He did not pander to the minority community and set a very bad precedent. What's the problem?

34 posted on 11/19/2013 4:05:45 PM PST by grania
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To: fwdude

Elian’s dad was as much of a puppet as Elian now is in Cuba.

Now do you get it?

Before the clampdown on the dad, there were conversations between the dad and the Miami relatives indicating his desire for Elian to remain and live in America.

It really sickened me that so many “conservatives” called for the return of Elian to his father proving that even conservatives can be clueless about communism.


35 posted on 11/19/2013 4:05:53 PM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: TigersEye

How is that characterization incorrect, discounting any motivation behind it?


36 posted on 11/19/2013 4:06:37 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude
FReepers are often incensed at the practice of anchor babies and illegal immigrant children, and yet, want an illegal immigrant forcefully kept in the U.S., against his father’s wishes no less.

I don’t get it.

What part of escaping-Communism-for-freedom don't you understand?

37 posted on 11/19/2013 4:07:14 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. [Ludwig Von Mises])
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To: dfwgator

When all this was going on I happened to read Cuban media occasionally. There was an interesting article there that went into great detail about all the ‘luxuries’ offered to the average Cuban citizen. Including fertility treatment. It seems that little Elian is the result of one of these treatments. Now, the question is,...who’s the daddy.

Look at pictures of Castro when he was a little boy. Now, look at pictures of Elian as a child. Compare/contrast.

Would explain why THIS child, out of the thousands that have escaped over the years, was so important for Castro to have back in Cuba.


38 posted on 11/19/2013 4:07:44 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: grania

Here’s the problem.

President Reagan fought the system and kept the legal process going until a teenage boy from the Ukraine was allowed to remain in the USA.

This boy, Walter Polovchak, now 44 has two sons, ages 18 and 9, and lives with his family in Des Plaines.

Much nicer ending. It’s called Freedom.


39 posted on 11/19/2013 4:11:43 PM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: BfloGuy
What part of escaping-Communism-for-freedom don't you understand?

So, is "escaping-adject-poverty-for-economic-benefit" then justified by Mexicans?

40 posted on 11/19/2013 4:17:33 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: A'elian' nation
The obvious solution was to offer Elian's father the opportunity to live in Florida with his son--but of course the Clinton administration had to follow Castro's orders. During the time Elian's father was in the US, he was under close supervision by Castro's henchmen at all times.

It was Clinton who changed the rules--under the earlier set of rules Elian was absolutely permitted to stay in the US. Clinton modified to the "wet foot/dry foot" rules--because Elian was rescued at sea, he wasn't automatically entitled to asylum.

41 posted on 11/19/2013 4:19:44 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: fwdude
How is that characterization incorrect, discounting any motivation behind it?

I'm not going to indulge in that kind of sophistic moral relativism.

42 posted on 11/19/2013 4:23:29 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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So, is "escaping-adject-poverty-for-economic-benefit" then justified by Mexicans?

No. They are two completely separate concepts.

You are conflating a communist state where every citizen exists at the pleasure of the dictator with a country that is free but where economic opportunity is more difficult to find than it is here.

We granted Cubans the right to stay in the US if they made landfall here because they were escaping hell -- not a bad economy.

43 posted on 11/19/2013 4:35:02 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. [Ludwig Von Mises])
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To: A'elian' nation
Sorry. I don't want any precedents that allow people who aren't here legally to stay in the US. If there's an exception, it'll be a precedent. LaRaza and the Muslim Brotherhood (etc) will hire scads of lawyers and use it to unravel what's left of immigration law.
44 posted on 11/19/2013 4:36:57 PM PST by grania
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To: BfloGuy

What if a North Korean submarine popped up off the Oregon coast and landed in a cove and they asked for asylum? Do you think the US would give it to them?

we should, of course. We should make sure they can be repatriated to South Korea too.


45 posted on 11/19/2013 4:37:51 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: ColdOne
Elian right, Cuba's the best and the US sucks... Michael Moore told me so!


46 posted on 11/19/2013 4:45:12 PM PST by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: Parmenio

No, not brainwashed. Like all other cubans under castro rule, he knows what he has to say in order to stay out of prison.


47 posted on 11/19/2013 4:52:28 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

I pray you are right.


48 posted on 11/19/2013 4:53:56 PM PST by Texas Yellow Rose
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To: fwdude

>> I don’t get it.

Maybe Ted Cruz could explain.


49 posted on 11/19/2013 4:57:35 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ifinnegan

One who said to send him back got beaten for governor of OK, an ex-athlete named Steve Largent.


50 posted on 11/19/2013 5:00:16 PM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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