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Why Pro-Lifers Shouldn't Despair over Albuquerque
National Review ^ | 11/20/2013 | Michael J. New

Posted on 11/20/2013 9:58:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 11/20/2013 9:58:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What can you do if 55% want babies killed.


2 posted on 11/20/2013 10:01:28 AM PST by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: SeekAndFind
New Mexico is primally Roman Catholic.

Did the church leaders speak against the murder of children.


3 posted on 11/20/2013 10:06:10 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Mi-kha-el

If you eliminate abortion and/or birth control are you willing to provide support for those babies born to parents who are poor, underage or otherwise incapable of providing for the child?


4 posted on 11/20/2013 10:21:59 AM PST by ozdragon
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To: SeekAndFind

What a strange article. It tells us to not be discouraged because failure is the norm when it comes to anti-abortion measures.


5 posted on 11/20/2013 10:30:42 AM PST by aimhigh
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> If you eliminate abortion and/or birth control are you
> willing to provide support for those babies born to parents
> who are poor, underage or otherwise incapable of providing
> for the child?

I have 11 kids, 8 of whom are adopted.

There are many people I know personally who would love to adopt, but the process is so long and costly, few can afford it.


6 posted on 11/20/2013 10:35:01 AM PST by Westbrook ()Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: ozdragon

You know, you’re right, we should just kill them so we don’t have to mess with them. I mean, if their own mothers don’t want them... What was I thinking all this time?


7 posted on 11/20/2013 10:40:01 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: aimhigh

Besides, we weren’t the ones aborted. We made it. Why should we worry about future ripped up babies?


8 posted on 11/20/2013 10:40:55 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Frankly it surprised me that the measure made it this far in Albuquerque. That city, along with Santa Fe, are the reason democrats get elected in NM.


9 posted on 11/20/2013 10:42:05 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
LOL, what?

No, the Catholic church never speaks out against abortion.

What a dumbass post.

10 posted on 11/20/2013 10:47:06 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Mi-kha-el

If TV is in any way accurate, I think 55% of Albuquerque is using meth...


11 posted on 11/20/2013 10:49:04 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

bttt


12 posted on 11/20/2013 11:26:53 AM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: SeekAndFind

Albuquerque is not a red stronghold. Look at politics there and you can see that the left has had a strong showing for a long time. When the dems moved from CA, they brought their politics with them. Anybody who thinks that inviting Californians to their state for a reprieve is going to solve things is deluded. Yes, they are running from the harsh realities of CA, but remember that THEY voted for them. They actually believe, along with Hillary Clinton and Obama, et al that socialism has just not had a fair chance and given the right place and conditions, it will prove itself. We should know better. Let’s let the dems sort it out in their own blue states, which are “blue” for a reason. Same thing is happening in TX. Conservatives had better take notice and quit thinking that these are freedom-seeking new-comers. They will change YOUR city into the same thing they left within a decade, or less.


13 posted on 11/20/2013 11:36:54 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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LOL, what? No, the Catholic church never speaks out against abortion. What a dumbass post.

It was a rhetorical question.

14 posted on 11/20/2013 11:39:41 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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1800s ozdragon: If you eliminate slavery are you willing to provide support for those slaves who are poor uneducated and otherwise incapable of living in freedom?

There are many organizations who care for unwed/underage mothers to get them back on their feet again. There are also many adoption agencies.


15 posted on 11/20/2013 11:56:50 AM PST by Phillyred
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To: aimhigh
What a strange article. It tells us to not be discouraged because failure is the norm when it comes to anti-abortion measures.

It is quite remarkable how high the failure rate for anti-abortion ballot initiatives is. Even in very conservative states (like South Dakota, for instance), voters seem to reliably reject any serious restrictions on abortion at the ballot box. Just about the only pro-life initiatives that have achieved any success are those dealing with parental involvement for minors.

From my observations of the last couple decades, I think it's clear that polling data isn't terribly accurate on this particular issue. While many Americans do continue to tell pollsters that they support restricting abortion, especially in later stages of pregnancy, not many of them actually vote for such restrictions when given the opportunity.

16 posted on 11/20/2013 2:08:35 PM PST by BearArms
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As a New Mexican in Exile from the People’s Republic of New Mexico, I can tell you that the local Diocese can play politics with the worst of them. If they were threaten by the Democratic Patrons, the order went out to shut up. This happened when Gary Johnson was Governor and was on the verge of passing school choice with the Bishop’s support... the Rats got to the Bishop and he threw the governor under the bus....


17 posted on 11/20/2013 3:33:30 PM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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While many Americans do continue to tell pollsters that they support restricting abortion, especially in later stages of pregnancy, not many of them actually vote for such restrictions when given the opportunity.

Well, as Stalin said, it doesn't matter who votes, what matters is who counts the votes.

18 posted on 11/20/2013 4:44:38 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: SeekAndFind; LegendHasIt; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; OneWingedShark; ...

Delayed NM list *PING*!


19 posted on 11/24/2013 7:38:10 AM PST by CedarDave (Small town America - last stand for God, freedom, civility, and American values.)
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How’s your weather Dave? This is the freakiest storm I’ve seen in 20 years. Constant overcast and fog, very little wind and 17 degrees steady day and night. Only a couple inches of snow.


20 posted on 11/24/2013 7:40:35 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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