Skip to comments.States salivating for Boeing 777X feast
Posted on 11/20/2013 11:24:52 AM PST by mdittmar
A week after union Machinists at Boeing rejected a contract that would have guaranteed the 777X be built in Washington, the aerospace giant has talked to at least a half-dozen states about the future plane.
Officials in Alabama, California, Kansas, South Carolina and Utah said Tuesday their states have talked with the company about a new airplane-assembly plant, while a spokesman for Gov. Jay Inslee said Washingtons efforts have never stopped.
Georgia and Texas have also expressed interest, but officials there would not say whether theyve actually spoken with Boeing executives.
The conversations, a mix of phone calls and in-person meetings, some initiated by Boeing and others by state economic-development offices, were described as preliminary.
Boeing spokesman Doug Alder declined to discuss specifics but reiterated that the company is exploring all options for where to build the bigger, more fuel-efficient version of the 777 widebody jet.
CEO Jim McNerney said at the Dubai Air Show this week that he expects a decision within three months a time frame that is forcing states to move aggressively.
Officials in several states expressed confidence about their chances.
(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.com ...
When approached by the state representative from California, the Boeing executive is believed to have injured himself from laughing too hard, but is expected to recover.
I guess that union sure showed Hostess who’s boss. Wonder what those people are doing who are in that picture. Same will be for Boeing if or when they move the 777XX project out of state. The IAM can then strut around showing who’s the boss.
And now they have a little socialist on the City Council who tells the machinists who will be fired to "take over" the building, and build something that is not "war machines."
You talkin’ about this?
Seattle deserves this gal. She’s not typical Socialist, she’s a Trotskyite. Check out this article;
Congratulations To Kshama Sawant: Who has just won election to the Seattle City Council.
Four-term Seattle City Councilman Richard Conlin conceded to Socialist challenger Kashama Sawant late Friday afternoon, after Sawant once again increased a lead that now stands at 1,640 votes.
In an interview, Conlin said he sensed the tide that would carry the Socialist Alternative candidate, an instructor at Seattle Central Community Council, to an upset victory.
Seattle has had similar politicians before, for instance, Anna Louise Strong. But not recently. (Openly, anyway.)
Our local news organizations have been calling her a “socialist”, which is true, but not very specific, since socialists come in many varieties. In contrast, Wikipedia is quite specific.
Sawant is a Marxist, a supporter of the Occupy Wall Street movement, and a member of the Trotskyist political party Socialist Alternative, an affiliate of the Committee for a Workers’ International.
Some people may need a refresher on Trotskyism.
Trotskyism is the theory of Marxism as advocated by Leon Trotsky. Trotsky identified as an orthodox Marxist and Bolshevik-Leninist, and supported founding a vanguard party of the working-class. His politics differed sharply from those of Stalinism, as he opposed the idea of Socialism in One Country. Trotsky still supported proletarian internationalism, and a dictatorship of the proletariat based on working-class self-emancipation and mass democracy. He did not believe in the unaccountable bureaucracy developed under Stalin after Lenin’s death.
In short, a Trotskyite is not just a socialist, but one of those revolutionary socialists we usually call communists. They are, they would be quick to remind us, communists who believe that Trotsky should have been in charge in the Soviet Union, instead of Stalin.
(Sawant is also, thanks to her husband’s job at Microsoft, quite well off, perhaps even rich. In her financial statement, she gives Vivek Sawant’s income as greater than $100,000, the top category in the form. The value of their checking account, somewhere between $40,000 and $99,999, also suggests that the two are not living in poverty, or even among the working class.)
It is embarrassing, but I have to admit that I am charmed to see a Trotskyite who I thought were almost all dead elected to anything. It is like seeing a Know Nothing, or a supporter of free silver, win. Her ideas are, of course, crazy, but then so are many of the ideas held by others in Seattle’s government.
But I am not charmed to see that she has taught economics at a Jesuit institution, Seattle University, and a community college, Seattle Central Community College. Alex Berezow is right to wonder about this paradox.
Even more troublingly, how can somebody with her beliefs be allowed to teach an economics course? This would be analogous to allowing an AIDS denier to teach a medical microbiology course, a 9/11 truther to teach a foreign policy course, or a creationist to teach an evolution course.
Or allowing someone who thinks you can live on sun beams to teach nutrition.
She wouldn’t, of course, be the first left-wing activist who was supported by a job (or jobs) at a college or university. In fact, that is quite common in our colleges and universities. A few of these activists are decent teachers as well as activists, and a very few of them even produce something scholarly. But most of them are just activists, and typically quite intolerant activists, at that.
Cross posted at Sound Politics.
(You may be slightly reassured to learn that she does not appear to be teaching currently at either Seattle University or Seattle Central Community College.)
- 9:12 AM, 16 November 2013 http://www.soundpolitics.com/
“And now they have a little socialist on the City Council who tells the machinists who will be fired to “take over” the building, and build something that is not “war machines.””
They can make Twinkies. Hahahahahahaha....sometimes I crack yield up.
I worked in a plant that was shut down about 30 years ago. The union was asked to help provide a dollar an hour savings. They came into the meeting with management and said "We were going to demand a $2 an hour raise, but we will only ask for a $1 raise. You can keep the extra dollar." They left the room laughing. Six months later, the plant was closed down.
A few years afterward, the local newspaper did a study of the 700 workers that lost their jobs. The top level management lost very little money over the closing. Some went right out and made more than they were at the plant. The Union people lost more, equivalent to a few months salary. The middle-management people lost more. The white-collar, non-management people lost the most, pretty much a years salary. Almost everybody had gotten back to their old salary after within five years.
Boeing looked at Dallas years ago and chose Chicago, they know what is in TX and what they did was take the best tax deal, at the time, regardless of all other factors.
Gee, I never knew commercial airliners were “war machines”.
And she expects Boeing to just sit by and let the socialist mob take over. At this point in time she is clearly the instigator in calling for illegal mob action. If this takes place I think that Boeing lawyers would fry her one piece at a time in civil court. They would first make her use all of her personal resources to defend herself then continue to take her back to court with different angles and complete break her personally, politically, and financially. It would be fun to watch her publicly broken down and that big mouth be silenced.
Just wondering how long it took for those workers who got back to their old salary to make up the difference of what they lost at a per hour rate.
WTF would California be on ANY manufacturer’s list. And I live there
Build it in Texas! Fort Worth has great aerospace history. ..
Build it in Texas! Fort Worth has great aerospace history. ..
Arizona’s ready! McCain can’t live forever!
Reminds me of the union at Easter Airlines; “Full pay till the last day!”
South Carolina’s where we want to go!
Build it right next to Kelly AFB.
I don't have the specifics anymore, but it was very long time, if ever. There were very few, other than top management, who came out of it without a long term loss.
They should build it in New Mexico.
The state has been aggressive in trying to attract manufacturing. There is a lot of military and civilian aerospace activity in New Mexico. Great weather. Lots of wide open spaces for aircraft testing.
At the end of the day I think Boeing is going to use this to milk all they can from the state and get what they can from the union and build the 777x in Washington. Moving would cost billions and take years, and that may set back deliveries and cost orders.
Wrong. Boeing moved its Corporate Offices from WA to Chicago BECAUSE the then CEO Harry Stonecipher did not want to spend four hours each way on the corporate jet visiting his daughter who lived in the city. Harry got the Boeing Board of Directors to OK the move and it was done. Boeing did NOT move its manufacturing activities to IL (and still haven’t). Harry was later forced to resign as CEO of Boeing for playing horizontal mambo with a married female senior VP. She was fired and divorced by her husband. Harry’s wife divorced him and hot 50% of his Boeing pension and perks. I know this is a fact because I suffered under Harry as a boss.
I thought they moved to North Carolina after the last union vote and the unions are suing them.
A few thousand people would have disputed that 9/11/01. But I digress...
the reasons in the dallas papers ranged from family to his love of boats. Nobody was sad to see him dethroned.
With the space shuttle program canceled . . . Alabama is primed for some rocket engineers to work for Boeing. We already have a nice Boeing facility here in Rocket City, lots of land for a factory. :)
Come on down, the Right To Work States Are Open for Business~!!!
“They should build it in New Mexico.”
You don’t mean the state where the cops stop people for traffic violations, then drag them off to a hospital for a colonoscopy to see of they are hiding any illegal drugs up their a$$? You don’t mean that state do you? They don’t call it “New” Mexico for nothing! Then again, when those guys who just got the involuntary colonoscopies, finish their lawsuits, they will own a county or two, so maybe then they can deal directly with Boeing.
You can add Hurt (?) at HP with his “closer” women - the marketing gals that service CEO for the corp accounts...not a LOL a sad truth. Does anyone think that all those trophy wives are interested in charity or lavish life.
Didn’t the CEO decide on Chicago because that is where his Mama lived?
I was told that by another ...look at the full post for the answer
I will grant you that New Mexico cops have been...unhinged as of late.
Albuquerque has a pretty high ratio of police shootings and off in the less populated parts of the state law enforcement is a prime source of municipal revenue. Here in Rio Rancho we have a great police department (underpaid, but great) and a very low crime rate. Really would be a good place to build the plant.
Thanks for posting that. Whenever I think it’s absolutely horrid here in MD, at least as far as liberalism goes, I do sometimes comfort myself with the thought, “At least I’m not in Washington”.
My pleasure...I think. At least I know how you feel.