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Senate Adopts New Rules on Filibusters
Wall Street Journal ^ | 11/21/13 | By Janet Hook And Kristina Peterson

Posted on 11/21/2013 9:52:06 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

Edited on 11/21/2013 9:53:53 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

A bitterly divided Senate voted Thursday to ease the confirmation process for most presidential nominees, a momentous and potentially risky step that limits the ability of Republicans to block President Barack Obama's choices for executive-branch and most judicial posts.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) engineered the rules change, over Republican objections, with a complicated parliamentary maneuver that ended up placing new curbs on the use of the filibuster—a move so controversial that it is often called the "nuclear option."

"The American people believe Congress is broken. The American people believe the Senate is broken…It's time to change the Senate before this institution becomes obsolete," Mr. Reid said.

The key vote was 52-48, with all but three Democrats voting for the change and all Republicans opposed. Democratic Sens. Carl Levin of Michigan, Mark Pryor of Arkansas and Joe Manchin of West Virginia broke from their party and voted against changing the rules.

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Fascism on the march
1 posted on 11/21/2013 9:52:06 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
Fascism on the march

Not really. Just accelerated resolution of the overall cultural problem.
2 posted on 11/21/2013 9:53:38 AM PST by Robert Teesdale
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To: SoFloFreeper
What passed is almost exactly what Frist and McConnell proposed about 9 years ago. McCain and his hand-picked "Gang of 14" shot down the GOP getting its judges in place.

Another McCain failure for the history books.

3 posted on 11/21/2013 9:54:27 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: SoFloFreeper

its called running scared last chance saloon, Reid is total loon. Looking forward to it coming back and biting them on the butt.


4 posted on 11/21/2013 9:54:34 AM PST by sunmars
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To: SoFloFreeper

Fellow Alinskyites of Obama will now be FLOODED into the courts and bureaucracies......

Your freedom took a giant step backward today, thanks to Obamugabe’s brownshirts.


5 posted on 11/21/2013 9:55:01 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Precedent has been set for a 2015 GOP Senate and beyond.


6 posted on 11/21/2013 9:55:58 AM PST by DallasBiff (Lautenberg The Forefather of "The Nanny State!")
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To: Cboldt

Yep. I remember.


7 posted on 11/21/2013 9:56:00 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Cboldt

McCain’s goal all along was to prevent a CONSERVATIVE president from getting his judicial nominees through. He’s all for getting a LIBERAL president’s nominees through.


8 posted on 11/21/2013 9:57:07 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: SoFloFreeper

Maybe now Republicans won’t be so content with their minority status. The Hitlerites are rolling right over them.


9 posted on 11/21/2013 9:57:10 AM PST by pallis
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To: SoFloFreeper
If there is a God, one day, we will cram this ruling down Democrats' throats and they'll have to take it because we'll make them.

Personally, I hope the retribution is so bad to Democrats that they end up digging that dead bastard "Searchlight Nevadan" up and throwing his traitorous bones to the four winds.

10 posted on 11/21/2013 9:58:31 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: SoFloFreeper

Just in time for a Senate takeover in 2014.

Payback’s a b*tch!


11 posted on 11/21/2013 9:58:41 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (I Love 0bamaCare! It proves government incompetence forever.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Say that in January 2017 Ted Cruz is in the Oval office and the Democrats are filibustering every judicial appointment he makes. Assuming the Republicans hold the majority in the Senate are you suggesting they would be fascists if they voted this same thing?


12 posted on 11/21/2013 9:58:59 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: pallis

But he has special “discernment” ability.. maybe he has discerned that in 2014 no filibuster will be needed any more as he will no longer be in the majority..


13 posted on 11/21/2013 9:59:07 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: SoFloFreeper

They know this will come back to bite them in the future, but they are trading long term reward for short term success. With Obama’s ever dwindling popularity circling the drain and threatening to take his party with him, the last hope they have of enacting anything is in the next year.


14 posted on 11/21/2013 9:59:12 AM PST by Burkean (.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The next time there is a Republican president, the Democrats will put the old rules back.


15 posted on 11/21/2013 9:59:15 AM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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To: SoFloFreeper
"Fellow Alinskyites of Obama will now be FLOODED into the courts and bureaucracies......"

Yep. The Marxist Democrat party is pushing it to the wall. They will not release their grip on the US through democratic means and it will take a traumatic collapse of the country for a chance at a reset.

16 posted on 11/21/2013 9:59:51 AM PST by Truth29
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To: DallasBiff

Yes, Dingy Harry knows they will lose the senate next year. Best to frontload their picks starting now.

He’s gambling (and is probably right) that the Republicans won’t have the gonads to do the same to them after next year’s elections.


17 posted on 11/21/2013 10:00:18 AM PST by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Just in time as the GOP retakes the Senate in 2014. You’ll live to regret this Harry.


18 posted on 11/21/2013 10:00:26 AM PST by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

For over 200 hundred years, the institution worked. well, sort of..

Now this.. when despots are in power , no one is safe. not even a minority party in the Senate.

Remember that Dems, see ya in 2014 and 2016.


19 posted on 11/21/2013 10:00:31 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Burkean

good luck, the house gop and Gop Senators should not pass a single Dem bill until it is reversed and drop any bipartisan thing pending, kill the lot stone dead.


20 posted on 11/21/2013 10:00:32 AM PST by sunmars
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To: SoFloFreeper

The point of the exercise is to make lifetime appointments to the fed courts hearing cases over federal regulations. Current lineup is 4-D, 4-R, and 3 vacancies. Not a word from lame stream media on why Publicrats don’t approve of the 3 proposed judges.


21 posted on 11/21/2013 10:00:34 AM PST by RideForever
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To: SoFloFreeper
"The American people believe Congress is broken.

And this proves it!

22 posted on 11/21/2013 10:01:23 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Mannaggia l'America

The next time there is a Republican president, the Democrats will put the old rules back.

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The next time there is a Republican president, the Republicans will put the old rules back.

Fixed. Not sarcasm.


23 posted on 11/21/2013 10:02:14 AM PST by Geoffrey
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To: SoFloFreeper

Not to worry: The Dems will change it back during the lame session if they lose the Senate majority in any future election.


24 posted on 11/21/2013 10:02:15 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (We're At That Awkward Stage: It's too late to vote them out, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Wow, the desperation has reached historic levels in the Democrat party. Pitiful

This will bite them in the rear bigtime though, and they will be crying bloody murder on their way to obscurity


25 posted on 11/21/2013 10:02:45 AM PST by Nahhh I Dont Think So
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To: SoFloFreeper

President Cruz will have work to do in 2017. Hopefully a conservative Senate will be able to help him along.


26 posted on 11/21/2013 10:02:46 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

The Dems have let the camel stick his nose under the tent. They tried to limit this to courts below the SCOTUS but the point is they changed the rules with a simple majority vote. The GOP can now change the rules when they have the majority.

They will be able to repeal 0bamacare with a simple majority. They will be able to change the rule again to approve conservative justices to the SCOTUS. Just need that simple majority and a non Dem POTUS. 0bamacare may just give us both.


27 posted on 11/21/2013 10:03:53 AM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Without the filibuster there isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between the Senate and the House. Why do we need two Houses?


28 posted on 11/21/2013 10:04:36 AM PST by DManA (rs)
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To: Cboldt
Never Forget the Republican who folded to Harry Reid when the GOP had the majority!!

ONLY REMIANING RINO'S in the SENATE from the GOP half of the Gang of 14


29 posted on 11/21/2013 10:05:32 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Rockitz

The lame duck Senate will change the rules back before they leave office and the new Senators are sworn in.


30 posted on 11/21/2013 10:06:32 AM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Senate Adopts New Rules on Filibusters

Huh? Did I miss something, Rush Limbaugh just said at the beginning of his show that the "Nuclear" threat wasn't worth discussing because it was just a distraction to take the media focus off Obamacare and that the democrats had no intention of following through, and even if they did it was a long convoluted process.

It appears that not only did they go "Nuclear" they changed the rules in about 15 minutes....

31 posted on 11/21/2013 10:06:47 AM PST by apillar
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To: Truth is a Weapon

“The American people believe Congress is broken. The American people believe the Senate is broken…It’s time to change the Senate before this institution becomes obsolete,” Mr. Reid said.”...

Finally something I agree with Reid on. Indeed it is time to change the Senate for certain and him along with it. Get rid of the demodummies and Rhino’s in COngress while there at it.


32 posted on 11/21/2013 10:06:53 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: SoFloFreeper

Revolt is coming.


33 posted on 11/21/2013 10:07:45 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Harry will CHOKE on this when he loses power in about 1 year.


34 posted on 11/21/2013 10:08:10 AM PST by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: Progov

Time to do some house cleaning.


35 posted on 11/21/2013 10:08:22 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: 11th Commandment

Collins was in on that Gang of 14 stupidity too. So was Mary Mary Landrieu.


36 posted on 11/21/2013 10:08:41 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: SoFloFreeper

Toss out all the demorat bastids.


37 posted on 11/21/2013 10:09:04 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Republicans going against the Founders is devastating.


38 posted on 11/21/2013 10:09:41 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

So when is the vote to end the two-term limits for Democratic Presidents?


39 posted on 11/21/2013 10:10:02 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: SoFloFreeper

They will rue the day!


40 posted on 11/21/2013 10:10:28 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: cotton1706

Certainly McCain owns his errors BUT the AZ electorate is his enabler. Its an electorate problem more than a legislator problem. Lets just be completely clear on where the real problem lies.


41 posted on 11/21/2013 10:10:56 AM PST by 556x45
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To: Uncle Miltie

I’m not counting on the 2014 takeover. The Democrats have figured out how to rig the state-wide votes.


42 posted on 11/21/2013 10:11:47 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The specific rules change is irrelevant. If the majority can break the rules to change the rules, there are no rules.


43 posted on 11/21/2013 10:11:54 AM PST by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“This is what mobacracy looks like!”


44 posted on 11/21/2013 10:11:57 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

So, educate me quickly. Is this the “nuclear option” we’ve heard so much about?

And if so, does anyone think they’d do this without knowing they had Majority-For-Life status?


45 posted on 11/21/2013 10:12:36 AM PST by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: DManA
Why do we need two Houses...

Excellent question although the filibusterer is not in the Constitution, it is the last remnant of what was the US Republic. With the Direct Election of Senators, the Chamber is like to house using the power of the federal government to bring home the bacon. Without term limits, they are entrenched power houses with ego to large to control.

We are no longer a Republic.

46 posted on 11/21/2013 10:12:41 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: TurboZamboni

Didn’t they change the rules when they passed “Commiecare”???


47 posted on 11/21/2013 10:13:13 AM PST by CMailBag
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To: Truth is a Weapon

Theoretically a GOP Congress with a GOP President could eliminate the filibuster in order to expand the courts. Then fill the seats with Conservatives. Like FDR tried with his SCOTUS packing scheme.

This shouldn’t be called the Nuclear Option anymore. It should be called exactly what it is: the Democrat Court-Packing Scheme


48 posted on 11/21/2013 10:13:24 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: SoFloFreeper

Harry is being obedient to his marching orders from the White House. Obama wants those sycophant judges in place now. I’ll bet every one of them was hand selected by Jarrett and placed in such a way as to block further challenges to Obamacare and state abortion laws.


49 posted on 11/21/2013 10:14:14 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: CMailBag

I think they ‘deemed’ it passed to see what’s in it.


50 posted on 11/21/2013 10:14:24 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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