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Senate Dems weaken GOP power with major filibuster rule change
http://www.foxnews.com ^ | November 21, 2013 | FoxNews/AP

Posted on 11/21/2013 10:17:57 AM PST by Para-Ord.45

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To: woofer2425
This is treason!

So?

You think the gutless pansies in the GOP are going to do anything about it?

51 posted on 11/21/2013 10:44:20 AM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Don’t worry, once the tea party works its butt off to get a GOP Senate majority in 2014, the GOP will change it right back again—in the spirit of bipartisanship.


52 posted on 11/21/2013 10:45:29 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: NorthMountain
PHASE IV OF THE FASCIST COUP
53 posted on 11/21/2013 10:46:03 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: taildragger

Well done.


54 posted on 11/21/2013 10:46:23 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

“The Enabling Act”


55 posted on 11/21/2013 10:46:35 AM PST by Ray76
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To: Para-Ord.45

Shiftless Harry Reid is a lying Stalinist scumbag and by his own words “Un-American”.

FUHR, eternally.


56 posted on 11/21/2013 10:47:35 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Para-Ord.45

One thing that occurs to me is those three “winnable” Senate seats we lost in 2012 are looming pretty large right now. We threw away two perfectly winnable seats (MO and IN) by candidates saying stupid things and being stupid enough to fall into the ‘Rat traps, and the one seat in MT that the lousy Libertarian handed to the ‘Rats. Those three votes (assuming the ‘Rats who voted with us this time did so again) would have been enough to block Reid’s coup. Like everyone here is fond of saying, elections have consequences, and those three seats that were tossed away (well, really two, and one spited away) have pretty big consequences right about now.


57 posted on 11/21/2013 10:47:56 AM PST by chimera
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To: Para-Ord.45

58 posted on 11/21/2013 10:48:02 AM PST by McGruff (Obama lied. Period!)
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To: pawpawrick; Slings and Arrows; GeronL; Revolting cat!
Professional crooks cover all options.There is language in what was forced through that says if the Senate changes hands,rules revert back to a super-majority.Rules and laws only apply to republicans.

Just as with the Obamacare exemptions, we are seeing the Stalinist "Animal Farm" Orwell wrote lived large.

59 posted on 11/21/2013 10:48:55 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Para-Ord.45
America is no longer a republic.

We've been downgraded to a simple democracy.

Mob rule is now the norm.

60 posted on 11/21/2013 10:49:26 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Ray76

like ‘deeming’ stuff passed ‘to see what’s in it’ ?


61 posted on 11/21/2013 10:49:39 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

One party rule is just another way of saying tyranny. Perhaps the minority party should borrow a bit from the RAT playbook and refuse to attend and go into hiding so that a quorum can’t be had. Make the RATs chase em down and drag them in cuffed and protesting.


62 posted on 11/21/2013 10:50:39 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: C. Edmund Wright; All

They do not care what you think, whatever gives anyone at this stage ANY confidence in the republicans in the House, or the Senate to fight for this country anymore...

Try calling their office(s) and find out how quickly they hang up on you, if your into that...

Y’all do realize they will push as many judges, and bills through the process now before November 2014...And there will not be a lot anyone can do about it...

I’m really surprised they took so long to pull this particular procedural/political trigger...


63 posted on 11/21/2013 10:50:47 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
The RATS have convinced themselves they are in control of USA forever. The RATS will never have to worry about what would happen if they were the minority in the Senate.
64 posted on 11/21/2013 10:53:31 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Para-Ord.45

The government is breaking down. The Senate is controlled by power-mad Democrats, unconstrained by rules. The House is ostensibly in Republican control, but they are disorganized and led by Quislings. The Executive is unconstrained by law, ignoring laws it does not like and issuing decrees as if they were law. The Judiciary has outdone themselves, contorting Congressional Acts - nay, modifying them - to declare them Constitutional.

Perhaps Maj. Gen. Vallely is correct.


65 posted on 11/21/2013 10:53:45 AM PST by Ray76
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To: 11th Commandment

Thanks ( I guess ) for the link/reminder. Not feeling so well....


66 posted on 11/21/2013 11:00:59 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

They are deeply embedded. Although largely Democrat, they are not confined to the Democrat party. They are going for it all. Nothing will stand it their way. They are close to victory and can taste it.

All while we slept.

They want chaos. Chaos can be exploited. Why do you think they’ve bought up so much ammo?


67 posted on 11/21/2013 11:01:50 AM PST by Ray76
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To: C. Edmund Wright

A better question is when will we learn what we are up against?

We are up against all of them, and this is going to continue until we stop it.


68 posted on 11/21/2013 11:02:18 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: pawpawrick

Wow that’s pretty shocking even to me, and I’ve become quite cynical these days.

There truly isn’t any upside to this if what you wrote is true. I don’t doubt that it can be; it’s just so shocking that I wouldn’t believe it could happen. Or don’t want to.

But whatever. Why not. And of course, the Reluvlicans won’t have enough courage to do the same if they ever get back in power.

“Game over man, game over!” - Bill Paxton from the movie Aliens.


69 posted on 11/21/2013 11:02:50 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Importantly, the Republics *must* embrace and accept this rule change once they are in power, as it will likely result in the inability of Democrats to block conservative justices to the Supreme Court.

With there likely to be a Republican senate and a Republican POTUS, as many as three or even four seats on the SCOTUS could go to strongly conservative justices.

This will be essential if the Republicans hope to dismantle much of the last hundred years of progressivism. A 7-2 conservative SCOTUS would be a huge help to doing this.


70 posted on 11/21/2013 11:02:57 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (War on Terror news at rantburg.com)
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To: No Socialist

Dems will just change rules again before the Senate switches and then cry like stuffed pigs if the republicans try the same thing.
***Yup, you called it.


71 posted on 11/21/2013 11:03:03 AM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: stevie_d_64
I’m really surprised they took so long to pull this particular procedural/political trigger...

Timing is everything. It's all, likely, going according to plan :(

72 posted on 11/21/2013 11:03:39 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: MasterGunner01

Listening To CSPAN Now


73 posted on 11/21/2013 11:04:08 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: chris37

Well, the two concepts are not mutually exclusive….but how would you suggest we “stop it.”


74 posted on 11/21/2013 11:05:05 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Para-Ord.45

PO(tu)S now praising, of course. Buck Ofama. Hard.


75 posted on 11/21/2013 11:06:34 AM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

all the more reason we MUST take back the senate in 2014


76 posted on 11/21/2013 11:07:37 AM PST by Nifster
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To: celmak
Reid and his ilk will soooooooo regret this.

They would if there was an opposition party. The GOP should have walked out. Now they think they'll be able to do the same thing when it is their turn. Democrats don't play like that. You will see such hell raised if/when the tables turn and people like McCain and Collins will cave, as always.

77 posted on 11/21/2013 11:08:46 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
I seem to remember people whining about this a few years back. They wailed that if the Republicans did it then the demonrats would and it would be all our fault.

The whiners won.

And now the demonrats are doing it.

See where being "nice" and "fair" gets you?

For the love of country grow a SPINE!

78 posted on 11/21/2013 11:10:00 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: saganite
DING ! DING ! DING ! We have a winner.

Furthermore, what makes any of these people think there will be another Republican president nominating anyone. I think the left has put enough perpetual entitlements in place and has enough people on food stamps, Medicaid, disability, etc.. that we will never see another Republican president. They have taken over the IRS, NSA, military, etc... so that they have the infrastructure in place to "manage" any close election to their benefit. People need to come to grips with the fact that Obama has achieved his goal of fundamentally changing our country.

It is over.

79 posted on 11/21/2013 11:11:25 AM PST by nitzy (You can avoid reality but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Deep breath. Deep breath. Vengeance is the Lord's, not the Luircin’s. Harry will either repent of his evil, or he'll face the proverbial music. Hating him and all the others will only make me as bad as they are.
80 posted on 11/21/2013 11:11:44 AM PST by Luircin
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To: Para-Ord.45
With Republicans fuming, the change weakens the power of the minority to stall nominations for top positions. Instead of needing 60 votes to break a filibuster, the change means Democrats will now need just 51.

Nah, just one. Harry, or Obozo. Either one. Whichever is nearer the phone.

81 posted on 11/21/2013 11:14:58 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: gaijin

because I am GLAD the democrats did this! Now when WE take back the Senate next year, we would have to deal with the filibuster :)


82 posted on 11/21/2013 11:16:24 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Liberty Amendments step 1.

Should that fail,

That only leaves one other option really.


83 posted on 11/21/2013 11:18:53 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

If I were in charge of the Senate after the next election I would immediately start impeachment proceedings against EVERY left wing judge this commie Senate has approved.


84 posted on 11/21/2013 11:18:54 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: chris37

In short answer, what is step one?


85 posted on 11/21/2013 11:19:59 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: oldbill
With McCain, Graham, Collins, Cornyn, etc., the Democrats never had a problem getting 60 votes.

My theory is that McCain and the rest of the Ruling Class gave Reid the green light to do this.

86 posted on 11/21/2013 11:21:12 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
harry reid finger photo:  harry-reid-finger.jpg
“OK, here's the deal with my nuclear option thingy:

Because my buddy Barack's transformation of America isn't moving at the rate Mr. Soros, David Axlerod, Valerie Jarrett and his other handlers anticipated, we simply MUST pack the agencies and courts with more dedicated Marxists and libturds before BO's term is up. And although BO's agency heads will be removed should, allah forbid it, the pubbies take the WH in 2016, they will have had 3 years to bring in so many fellow libturds that a new administration will not be able to clean them all out.

But the courts – especially here in DC – are where the REAL action is! Dontcha just love that LIFETIME TENURE thing? We sure as hell do!

Oh...the finger?

Just my way of telling you Tea Party people that if you don't like it...suck on this!!

ROFLMAO!!!”

Most DISrespectfully, Harry “The Grinning Weasel” Reid


87 posted on 11/21/2013 11:24:26 AM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

I hope each of our Republican senators who crafted “bipartisan” 11th hour negotiations to not do this when we were in power feel sick. WE TOLD YOU SO! When are they going to wake up and learn that Democrats are fundamentally liars? Republicans, once again, made to live by disadvantaged rules because they always allow Democrats the opportunity to be hypocrites. Hell, they will probably agree to change the rules back when we win.


88 posted on 11/21/2013 11:25:26 AM PST by Dragonspirit (Always remember President Token won only by defecting on his CFR pledge.)
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To: Moonman62

“”My theory is that McCain and the rest of the Ruling Class gave Reid the green light to do this. “”

Exactly!!

And they will gladly revert BACK to old Rules when/if
they get to be the majority!!


89 posted on 11/21/2013 11:26:17 AM PST by mj1234
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The Article 5 amending of the constitution by the states which bypasses all of the federal government.

We tell them how it is and how it’s going to be, essentially.

They are our public servants after all.

It is the only civil solution remaining, electing more republicans is useless as they are as much enemies of our freedom as democrats are.

This rule change didn’t consume the GOP’s power, it consumed our power as citizens by rendering our elected reps useless, not that they were ever useful.

Our freedom is being consumed in massive chunks now, we’re going to need to think outside of the box, or we are going to be eaten.


90 posted on 11/21/2013 11:28:07 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: nitzy
It is over.

BEEN sayin' that.

My only vision, at this point, is what we reform ourselves into once the country collapses outright.

91 posted on 11/21/2013 11:28:14 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Paladin2

Yep. Is the a Supe ready to quit?


92 posted on 11/21/2013 11:31:07 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Para-Ord.45

And when the Repubies take back the Senate, Old Harry will work to get the rule changed back. Or maybe even right before the mid-terms if it looks like the Dems will get their arses handed to them.


93 posted on 11/21/2013 11:34:22 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Hey Nancy! Ya think these problems could've been avoided if you'd read the bill before passing it?)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

The repubs should just stop showing up for work. Why bother?


94 posted on 11/21/2013 11:41:57 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: PilotDave

Because their job is to expand government at the cost of our liberty and to make us believe the exact opposite is the case, and they are doing that job every single day.


95 posted on 11/21/2013 11:50:47 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Good. Let’s get majorities in both Houses and win the Presidency. We can just use the Commerce Clause as a billy club against statism and appoint pro-Constitution judges one after another.


96 posted on 11/21/2013 11:52:59 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: MasterGunner01
If they lose control in 2014, Senate rules reset and the old filibuster rules of 60 votes for cloture make a come back.

So...if The R's take control of the Senate in 2014, it will revert to super majority required to force cloture. Meaning the Dems will not be able to stop a Repub override of their filibusters. Where is the downside except for the current session up until next year's elections?

97 posted on 11/21/2013 11:54:02 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Hey Nancy! Ya think these problems could've been avoided if you'd read the bill before passing it?)
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To: TheRhinelander

Just wait until 2014. They will live to regret they ever did this.


That’s the problem right there. You don’t wait until 2014. You inflict pain on the Dems now. Media ads, another push for the Vitter Amendment, etc. The Dems won’t back down until they are in a personally uncomfortable position.


98 posted on 11/21/2013 11:59:35 AM PST by lodi90
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To: gaijin

“This is huge. Why isn’t there 10,000, replies about this, here?”

Because many like me are probably numb from abuse.


99 posted on 11/21/2013 12:03:37 PM PST by plain talk
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To: chris37

Well said sir. Like. Thumb up!


100 posted on 11/21/2013 12:06:30 PM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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