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NEWLY-ELECTED SOCIALIST HAS SOME RADICAL IDEAS FOR SEATTLE
The Blaze ^ | 21 Nov 2013 | Becket Adams

Posted on 11/21/2013 4:14:03 PM PST by mandaladon

Seattle’s newly elected Socialist councilwoman accused aerospace and defense giant Boeing on Monday of “economic terrorism” and told Boeing machinists they should consider taking “over the factories.” “The workers should take over the factories, and shut down Boeing’s profit-making machine,” Kshama Sawant told a group of activists in the city’s Westlake Park.

Sawant’s comments were made at a rally organized by machinists after they rejected a deal that would reduce pensions for union members in return for guaranteed jobs in Everett, Wash., building 777X Boeing airliners for eight years.

Now Boeing is considering taking those jobs elsewhere.

“That will be nothing short of economic terrorism because it’s going to devastate the state’s economy,” Sawant told the crowd.

If Boeing tries to move out, Sawant said, union workers should simply take over the Everett airplane-building factory.

She referred to this as “democratic ownership.” “The only response we can have if Boeing executives do not agree to keep the plant here is for the machinists to say the machines are here, the workers are here, we will do the job, we don’t need the executives. The executives don’t do the work, the machinists do,” she said.

She said that once workers take over the plant, they should start building things everyone can use.

“We can re-tool the machines to produce mass transit like buses, instead of destructive, you know, war machines,” she told KIRO-TV. By “war machines,” she apparently meant drones, KIRO reported.

“Workers have to realize, they have more power than they think,” Sawant said.

Sawant, who defeated a four-term Democratic incumbent last week, ran a campaign that took aim at capitalism and advocated for a $15 per hour minimum wage.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boeing; communism; communists; lawlessnation; leave; leaveseattle; leavewa; obama; socialist; timetoleave; unions
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She referred to this as “democratic ownership.”................New term for communism
1 posted on 11/21/2013 4:14:03 PM PST by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

The rule of law (as WE know it) has gone out the window! What follows won’t be pretty.


2 posted on 11/21/2013 4:17:36 PM PST by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: mandaladon

What is that definition of ‘insanity’ again? Doing the same thing time after time, but expecting different results. Socialism has been tried many times, under many guises. Without fail, the results have been dismal. I therefore submit that socialists, are, by definition, insane.


3 posted on 11/21/2013 4:18:01 PM PST by fhayek
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To: mandaladon
The executives don’t do the work, the machinists do

It is numbing sometimes how completely stupid these people are.

4 posted on 11/21/2013 4:18:19 PM PST by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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To: mandaladon

Wow! Obviously the commi thinks that siezing a building will prevent a huge corporation from hiring someone else on the other side of the country. Idiot.


5 posted on 11/21/2013 4:19:25 PM PST by WMarshal (Free citizen, never a subject or a civilian)
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To: mandaladon

I’d like to see these new owners buy insurance for that factory and fund the maintainence and retooling costs.

lol


6 posted on 11/21/2013 4:19:28 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: mandaladon
“That will be nothing short of economic terrorism because it’s going to devastate the state’s economy,”

Tough. What she's advocating is nothing short of economic terrorism. However, what Boeing is doing is LEGAL.

If Boeing tries to move out, Sawant said, union workers should simply take over the Everett airplane-building factory.

By all means. Let THEM pay the taxes. And utilities. And permits. And fees. All the while producing nothing. Yeah, that'll improve the economy!

She referred to this as “democratic ownership.”

By "this," does she mean the workers owning the means of production? Karl Marx referred to it as something else.

“The only response we can have if Boeing executives do not agree to keep the plant here is for the machinists to say the machines are here, the workers are here, we will do the job, we don’t need the executives. The executives don’t do the work, the machinists do,”

She's right about that. The executives only PAY for everything. Like the raw materials used to build things at the factory the workers just took over.

7 posted on 11/21/2013 4:21:25 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: mandaladon

Maybe the whole Boeing company will go the extra step and head to South Carolina.


8 posted on 11/21/2013 4:21:32 PM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: mandaladon

Wonder how long she’ll be in there before recall. But then, it’s Seattle. SanFran North.


9 posted on 11/21/2013 4:22:21 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: mandaladon

Do it. Do it. Do it.


10 posted on 11/21/2013 4:23:00 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: mandaladon
It took me several minutes to get my jaw back in place after reading about this. I can't politely express how I feel about not only her but the idiot voters in Seattle. Please pray to God that Boeing moves to South Carolina and continues to build a great airplane, the B-777! Only a small request to the Almighty, but it is needed to combat Communism, the scourge of the 19th, 20th and now, the 21st Century.
11 posted on 11/21/2013 4:24:31 PM PST by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: mandaladon

“Sawant, who defeated a four-term Democratic incumbent last week, ran a campaign that took aim at capitalism and advocated for a $15 per hour minimum wage.”

Kshama, you commie pig, you are such a piker. Why not make it $150 per hour—that would show those corporate overlords who’s boss!


12 posted on 11/21/2013 4:24:48 PM PST by SharpRightTurn
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The story of the Twentieth Century Motor Company comes to mind, for some reason.


13 posted on 11/21/2013 4:26:15 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: mandaladon
this woman is psycho...and so are the people who would vote for such trash....

Boeing....lots of good places to move to with better weather and a friendly and appreciative govt and workforce.....

14 posted on 11/21/2013 4:26:55 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: mandaladon
Go ahead, machinists, follow this commie and see what happens.

You'd save yourself some time and trouble if you just line up bulldozers
and scrape the Boeing plant into the Puget Sound.

15 posted on 11/21/2013 4:28:35 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: mandaladon

She should visit the plant, I have. kinda hard to build buses or bicycles there.


16 posted on 11/21/2013 4:29:13 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Doesnt she qualify as a manager?


17 posted on 11/21/2013 4:29:51 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Michael.SF.

not so numbing how stupid “they” are but definitely incredible on how stupid the Seattle area electorate is!

How did all the stupid people migrate to Seattle? What attracted them? The rain, the cloudy days, what?


18 posted on 11/21/2013 4:32:08 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: mandaladon

I will bet a steak dinner this fool has never even heard of Atlas Shrugged, much less read the book.


19 posted on 11/21/2013 4:32:25 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: IronJack

Atlas Shrugged....now non-fiction!

KYPD


20 posted on 11/21/2013 4:34:59 PM PST by petro45acp (It's a fabian thing.....how do you boil a frog? How's that water feelin right about now?)
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To: mandaladon

Professional “educator”. No surprise.

Seattle is one of America’s festering political sores.


21 posted on 11/21/2013 4:35:42 PM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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To: Michael.SF.

> The executives don’t do the work, the machinists do
It is numbing sometimes how completely stupid these people are.

Its because they don’t peak from a position of experience or wisdom. They’re just parroting from the same Alinsky phrasebook as usual.


22 posted on 11/21/2013 4:36:37 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: mandaladon
How are we supposed to rise up and seize the means of production if 0bama takes our guns away?

Have any liberals ever actually read Das Kapital?

23 posted on 11/21/2013 4:37:07 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether the majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: IronJack

There are very capable machinery moving companies—all over the country. Boeing might already have them on stand-by.

I remember when a well established compnay in the San Fernando Vally in Los Angeles moved everything to a new place in Las Vegas. They started unbolting machines at 4 PM Friday afternoon, and were up and running the following Monday in Las Vegas. They had a caravan of trucks going east out of California, and has all the places for the new machines ready for installation when they worked thru the weekend, relocating everything.

The company offered all of it’s employees jobs in Las Vegas, and only about 30 said no. Over 200 people moved with the company. No income taxes & the company helped them with the actual move & finding new houses.

In the first year alone, the company saved over $100,000 just on the cost of Power, since rates are better closer to Hoover Dam.

Most accountants said it would take about 3 years to recover the costs of the move, new building, etc, but it took less than 12 months for all those costs to be recovered.


24 posted on 11/21/2013 4:38:12 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ZULU

Lemme guess, she has never worked for 1 hour in any private sector job. Only teaching.


25 posted on 11/21/2013 4:43:29 PM PST by matt04
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To: SkyDancer
Wonder how long she’ll be in there before recall.

the Washington State Supreme Court has twisted the election recall statutes so badly, it is virtually impossible to even get to the petition stage.

26 posted on 11/21/2013 4:44:08 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: mandaladon

The female Ignatius J Reilly has arrived.


27 posted on 11/21/2013 4:45:01 PM PST by struggle
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To: mandaladon
every democrat is a socialist

every single democrat in the Congress voted for Obamacare the biggest piece of socialist crap ever

you either trust government or you don't . democrats trust government and think government can do better than the free market so they are all socialists/communists/marxists .

28 posted on 11/21/2013 4:45:10 PM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Yep, but now look at all the comedy she’ll provide. How long is the term? Two or four years?


29 posted on 11/21/2013 4:46:29 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: ridesthemiles
The company offered all of it’s employees jobs in Las Vegas, and only about 30 said no.

Probably all married to government employees.

30 posted on 11/21/2013 4:46:43 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: mandaladon

Pased on this picture, I can count all the remaining functional brain cells on one had.

31 posted on 11/21/2013 4:48:56 PM PST by matt04
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To: mandaladon

What does this bimbo think MOVE OUT means?

There will no machinery—no materials—no desks—no telephones—no toilet paper-—no............

There will only be a shell of a very OLD building.

Companies won’t take extortion very long. Not even in Seattle.


32 posted on 11/21/2013 4:52:08 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: mandaladon

Democracy - “Democratic” in its original meaning [refers to] unlimited majority rule . . . a social system in which one’s work, one’s property, one’s mind, and one’s life are at the mercy of any gang that may muster the vote of a majority at any moment for any purpose.

The American system is not a democracy. It is a constitutional republic. A democracy, if you attach meaning to terms, is a system of unlimited majority rule; the classic example is ancient Athens. And the symbol of it is the fate of Socrates, who was put to death legally, because the majority didn’t like what he was saying, although he had initiated no force and had violated no one’s rights.

Democracy, in short, is a form of collectivism, which denies individual rights: the majority can do whatever it wants with no restrictions. In principle, the democratic government is all-powerful. Democracy is a totalitarian manifestation; it is not a form of freedom . . . .

The American system is a constitutionally limited republic, restricted to the protection of individual rights. In such a system, majority rule is applicable only to lesser details, such as the selection of certain personnel. But the majority has no say over the basic principles governing the government. It has no power to ask for or gain the infringement of individual rights.
http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/democracy.html


33 posted on 11/21/2013 4:53:44 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Democrat_media

Every democrat, socialist (national or international), Maoist, Stalinist, Trotskyite, Leninist, Marxist, unionist et al are all collectivists.


34 posted on 11/21/2013 4:58:16 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: mandaladon

Yeah who needs executives, engineers, logisticians and inventory managers to build, sell and deliver aircraft. Anybody can do those jobs (sarc)


35 posted on 11/21/2013 4:59:05 PM PST by XRdsRev (New Jersey - Crossroads of the American Revolution)
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To: mandaladon

Easy civil RICO litigation.
I could write the complaint in my sleep.


36 posted on 11/21/2013 5:03:16 PM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: mandaladon; All
Although this will probably sound strange to many people, Kshama Sawant's radical socialist ideas are an example of the 10th Amendment-protected state sovereignty at work imo.

More specifically, other states will keep an eye on Ms Sawant's economic experiment to see if it works or not. And if it works then Ms Sawant will be a hero, other states justifiably considering implementing Ms Sawant's economic theories in their states.

But if it doesn't work, then the economic damage caused Ms Sawant's misguided vision will hopefully be contained mostly in Washington State, not messing things up significantly for the other states.

In fact, when Obama was an Illinois state senator, he had the 10th Amendment power to experiment with Obamacare within that state's borders. And if Illinois-run Obamacare had really turned out well for that state, then Obama would have had the bragging rights to argue for the states to ratify an amendment to the Constitution which would have granted Congress the specific power that it needed to establish federal Obamacare.

But if Illinois Obamacare had been a flop, then the states probably wouldn't have granted Congress the necessary power, via the Constitution, to implement federal Obamacare for the nation.

Otherwise, bearing in mind that the states want their economic experiments to succeed, socialist Justice Louis D. Brandeis had noted that the states were "Laboratories for Democracy."

The problem with Ms. Sawant's experiment, as freeper fhayek had pointed out, is that misguided socialists are infamous for repeatedly attempting the same failed economics experiments, expecting different results every time.

37 posted on 11/21/2013 5:06:06 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

The tenth amendment does not give the states the power to violate the other parts of the Bill of Rights. Some things are not governments business at any level.

People should be prepared to revolt if they start stealing private property like this.

That is the second amendment


38 posted on 11/21/2013 5:08:07 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

I like your thinking.


39 posted on 11/21/2013 5:08:51 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: mandaladon

Hey, I wanted to thank Seattle for electing a genuwine Commie! Quite refreshing actually to see a honest-to-god Commie who isn’t afraid to say what they really mean. None of this “progressivism” this and “redistribution” that, but just good ol’ fashioned “kill the evil capitalists and take their stuff”.

Yep, let’s just steal that factory and “convert” it into making VCRs and lectric buses and rainbow generators and Unicorn horseshoes and other useful stuff not used for war, you know, like all factories are completely interchangeable.

Good lord. What a fool and a moron. Still, she’s gonna be providing us with a LOT of entertainment for the next four years!

So thanks again Seattle for lightening things up a bit in the political world! (Oh. Word of advice. Don’t elect a MAJORITY of those like her to city council or you’re gonna be REALLY sorry!)


40 posted on 11/21/2013 5:09:34 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: matt04

Probably not.

But she made Weekie Pedia so I guess they think she is hot stuff. But then t
Wikipedia is a liberal rag site.


41 posted on 11/21/2013 5:10:07 PM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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To: mandaladon

oh I do hope some management type at Boeing voted for “kshama”

LOL


42 posted on 11/21/2013 5:10:12 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: mandaladon

High probability she is one of my sister-in-laws friends


43 posted on 11/21/2013 5:15:55 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: mandaladon
“The workers should take over the factories, and shut down Boeing’s profit-making machine,” Kshama Sawant told a group of activists in the city’s Westlake Park.

Do it! We need something to set-off the shooting!

44 posted on 11/21/2013 5:18:52 PM PST by PGR88
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To: mandaladon

Boeing should have left for Texas a long time ago. It’s not too late.

The machinists can stay behind and make nose rings for moonbats. I hear that moonbats pay well. < /snurk>


45 posted on 11/21/2013 5:21:30 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: GeronL; All
The tenth amendment does not give the states the power to violate the other parts of the Bill of Rights.

The article didn't mention specifics concerning Ms Sawant's plans (corrections welcome), so I don't know if her plans violate Constitution or not. (Just like socialist Obama, I woudn't be surprised if socialist Sawant has no specific plans.)

46 posted on 11/21/2013 5:31:24 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: mandaladon

I remember someone posted that the goal of communists is complete takeover of all the means of production, and seizure of private property.


47 posted on 11/21/2013 5:40:49 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: mandaladon

Well! This two-bit female councilwoman sure got too big for her britches in a record short time, didn’t she? LOL!


48 posted on 11/21/2013 5:48:05 PM PST by W. (Look at my thumb, gee, you're dumb!)
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To: XRdsRev

Having worked in a union grocery store I can tell you, the majority of the hard core Union supports have no clue that any of that exists. All they know aboutis the eeeeeeeevil CEO and the Union.

They have no concept of suppliers, distribution centers, delivery, demand forecasting, legal, pricing, IT etc. They just know to scan the barcode of the item they want, tell it how many and have it magically appear a few days later.


49 posted on 11/21/2013 5:59:31 PM PST by matt04
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To: SkyDancer

King county

she will be in congress in no time...


50 posted on 11/21/2013 6:19:37 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( FORWARD !)
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