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Driver Arrested in Ohio for Secret Car Compartment Full of Nothing
Reason ^ | November 21, 2013 | Scott Shackford

Posted on 11/21/2013 5:45:52 PM PST by kiryandil

Norman Gurley, 30, is facing drug-related charges in Lorain County, Ohio, despite the fact that state troopers did not actually find any drugs in his possession.

Ohio passed a law in 2012 making it a felony to alter a vehicle to add a secret compartment with the “intent” of using it to conceal drugs for trafficking.

Gurley is the first actual person arrested under the law. WKYC in Northeast Ohio covered the arrest, with no notable journalistic skepticism whatsoever:

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; policestate
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Can I get a WTF? When did Ohio go Fascist?

Do they have intent-sniffing police dogs now?

1 posted on 11/21/2013 5:45:52 PM PST by kiryandil
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To: kiryandil

I still have a book I decades ago hollowed out for my stash of fire crackers. I’d better turn myself in.


2 posted on 11/21/2013 5:47:45 PM PST by skeeter
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To: kiryandil

How the hell is ‘altering’ your car to have an extra compartment illegal?

This is the equivalent of banning house extensions for fear you might set up a meth lab. UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

But then again, with Obama cementing dictatorial powers in Washington, this is no surprise.

In the words of The Great One

“This isn’t soft tyranny, this isn’t hyphenated tyranny, this is now just TYRANNY!”


3 posted on 11/21/2013 5:49:19 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: kiryandil

Thought crime.


4 posted on 11/21/2013 5:49:55 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: kiryandil

Thought Crime.


5 posted on 11/21/2013 5:50:02 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: kiryandil
The first thing they have to prove is that he didn't buy the car with the hidden space already built.

I remember a story from back in the late 90s when they started the asset seizure program - a guy who had purchased a car at a government auction was stopped at one of those DUI checkpoints and they had a dog that found a compartment in the trunk with either drugs or drug residue. He was busted and claimed neither he nor the gubment folks who sold him the car had any idea.

I don't remember the outcome.

6 posted on 11/21/2013 5:50:43 PM PST by Baynative (Wake me up early, be good to my dogs and teach my children to pray.)
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To: kiryandil

Now to join such thought crimes as hate crimes...making a hidden compartment for obvious nefarious purposes.

Hitler would be proud.


7 posted on 11/21/2013 5:51:39 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Baynative

What if the secret compartment was built to hide his smokes from his wife? Or to stash his gun when he enters City Hall to pick up some papers. Or hide chocolates in there for his mistress?


8 posted on 11/21/2013 5:53:39 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: null and void

Maybe Santa will bring me a new mouse.


9 posted on 11/21/2013 5:54:03 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: 21twelve

My point ...a good defense attny can shred this prosecution.


10 posted on 11/21/2013 5:55:54 PM PST by Baynative (Wake me up early, be good to my dogs and teach my children to pray.)
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Ohio passed a law in 2012 making it a felony to alter a vehicle to add a secret compartment with the “intent” of using it to conceal drugs for trafficking.

I'm guessing that the secret compartment is labeled "Drug Storage" right? As opposed to "Secret stash for locking up stuff you don't want stolen out of your vehicle"....right?!

Who was the pimple-brain who dreamed up this law?

11 posted on 11/21/2013 5:57:17 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Viennacon; Revolting cat!
"'Keys' right, you put your weed in it."


12 posted on 11/21/2013 5:58:04 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: kiryandil

Hold on, I think there may be a bright side to this.....

Follow along.... Here goes.....

Ohio has arrested a man for having a compartment containing nothing.

So what they have done is arrested a man for nothing.

So.... What they are saying here is........

NOTHING is illegal!


13 posted on 11/21/2013 5:59:13 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: kiryandil

The public is out there committing crimes every day. We in law enforcement know this. We will catch you, we will bring you to justice. You cannot escape our web. We have an endless number of offenses with which to charge you. You are powerless to resist.


14 posted on 11/21/2013 6:00:46 PM PST by centurion316
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To: kiryandil

You can’t prove intent. How do they know that was the reason?


15 posted on 11/21/2013 6:04:57 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: kiryandil

Reminds of of the laws passed for ziplock bag possesion right after ziplock bags were invented.


16 posted on 11/21/2013 6:05:18 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: kiryandil

My kids mini-cooper has a secret compartment right above the glove compartment that it took him a year to find (after another mini owner showed it to him). It’s factory, but you have to push in a part below the airbag thing, and then a little door opens up, you can fit maybe a kleenex box in it.

Nothing in the manual about it. But standard on all mini clubmans.


17 posted on 11/21/2013 6:09:44 PM PST by esoxmagnum (Turtles don't win fights, they just turtle up. Victory belongs to the aggressor, not the turtle.)
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To: Nik Naym

Everything is illegal. That’s where it’s leading to.


18 posted on 11/21/2013 6:14:25 PM PST by Principle Over Politics (Is this a free country or what?)
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To: centurion316
You are powerless to resist.

I wouldn't put too much on the line on that bet.

/johnny

19 posted on 11/21/2013 6:33:44 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: kiryandil

“When did Ohio go Fascist?”

Didn’t Ohio go for Obama?


20 posted on 11/21/2013 6:33:47 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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