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DASHCAM VIDEO RELEASED OF VET’S VIRAL ARREST FOR ‘RUDELY DISPLAYING’ RIFLE ON HIKE
theblaze.com ^ | november 21, 2013 | Jason Howerton

Posted on 11/21/2013 5:46:38 PM PST by lowbridge

Officials in Bell County, Texas, have released the dashcam footage of a police officer in Temple, Texas, disarming and arresting decorated veteran C.J. Grisham while he was on a hike with his son in March. The officer is seen grabbing the dad’s gun and then seemingly attempting to unlatch it from the man’s sling without telling him why or asking for permission.

Video recorded by Grisham and his son went viral earlier this year, but it did not show the moment the dad was approached and disarmed by the officer. He was later charged with “interference with duties of a public servant,” though the officer is heard in the video from March telling Grisham he was stopped for “rudely displaying” his rifle.

On Nov. 19, Grisham was found guilty by a jury of three men and three women of “interference with duties of a public servant” and ordered to pay a $2,000 fine. In an email to TheBlaze, the veteran said he plans to appeal the decision.

In the newly released dashcam video, officer Steven Ermis can be seen flagging down Grisham and asking him, “What are we doing?”

“We’re hiking,” Grisham replies.

Ernis, without warning, grabs Grisham’s AR-15 semi-automatic rifle and examines it.

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


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Full title: DASHCAM VIDEO RELEASED OF VET’S VIRAL ARREST FOR ‘RUDELY DISPLAYING’ RIFLE ON HIKE WITH SON – AND IT REVEALS THE CONTEXT EVERYONE’S BEEN WAITING FOR
1 posted on 11/21/2013 5:46:38 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Did the cop pull his weapon right at the start?


2 posted on 11/21/2013 5:51:44 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: lowbridge
In this case, the leftist term for cop..."pig"....fits the "officer". Just another JBT micro-Hitler wannabee.

The doughnut-munching creature should be fired and never work in law-enforcement again.

3 posted on 11/21/2013 5:57:03 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: lowbridge

Another article and my comments:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3093904/posts

I think that C J Grisham is an idiot. But, the Temple Police Officer, the prosecuting attorney, and the judge are even bigger idiots. The difference is that Grisham was an ordinary citizen, acting within the law and within his rights. The others are Gestapo goons acting outside the law to impose their personal notions of what citizens should be allowed to do.


4 posted on 11/21/2013 5:57:52 PM PST by centurion316
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To: lowbridge

Good thing he wasn’t taking his dog along for the hike.


5 posted on 11/21/2013 5:59:37 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: lowbridge

The officer was just responding to a call and didn’t know what was going on with the guy. The guy could have been a little more understanding of the officer’s situation and nothing would have happened.


6 posted on 11/21/2013 6:06:32 PM PST by fso301
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To: lowbridge

“Victims” like this guy who go around dressed like a nut flaunting their right to bear arms in the hope of provoking a confrontation with the police, will eventually cause the laws to be re-written, such that it will be made illegal to carry where it is now legal to do so.


7 posted on 11/21/2013 6:07:53 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: lowbridge

Another hero ignorant cop who is not seeing the drug dealers screwing his daughter at public school


8 posted on 11/21/2013 6:08:07 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: fso301
The problem is attitudinal. The police now see everyone not a policemen or fellow 'public servant' as "them".

This has been the trend ever since police stopped walking beats among the people they were supposed to 'protect and serve'. They consider all of us threats now.

9 posted on 11/21/2013 6:11:42 PM PST by skeeter
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To: fso301

did you watch the video?


10 posted on 11/21/2013 6:12:45 PM PST by digger48
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To: Age of Reason

Openly carrying a long gun in the Texas countryside has been the norm forever.


11 posted on 11/21/2013 6:12:46 PM PST by skeeter
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To: digger48
did you watch the video?

Yes. It wasn't a case of the officer just driving along some road and spotting a guy open carrying. The officer was responding to a call about the guy. He didn't know what if anything the guy may have done.

The officer is by himself in a remote area without backup. The officer wants to go home safe and sound at the end of his shift.

12 posted on 11/21/2013 6:19:42 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

Did you watch the video?


13 posted on 11/21/2013 6:22:34 PM PST by gaijin
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To: fso301

he had no reason to walk up and just grab the gun.


14 posted on 11/21/2013 6:24:34 PM PST by digger48
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To: gaijin

Definitely not the worst I’ve seen but the policeman needlessly escalated the situation.

The cop committee battery here and was enforcing no law.


15 posted on 11/21/2013 6:25:13 PM PST by gaijin
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To: skeeter
The problem is attitudinal. The police now see everyone not a policemen or fellow 'public servant' as "them".

I actually go easy on the cop in this situation. What would any of us do in his situation if we were dispatched to some remote road looking for two males, at least one of them is heavily armed?

16 posted on 11/21/2013 6:25:34 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301
The officer wants to go home safe and sound at the end of his shift.

Yea? Guess what, so does the "civilian".

17 posted on 11/21/2013 6:26:16 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: digger48
he had no reason to walk up and just grab the gun.

He didn't. He was dispatched in response to a call about the guy. To do his job, he had to find out what was going on with the guy he was dispatched to check out.

18 posted on 11/21/2013 6:28:17 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

He was walking calmly with his son. He was aware of the squad and did not flee. He did not raise his voice. He did not wave his arms or scream.The situation was obvious.

You are a cop.


19 posted on 11/21/2013 6:29:15 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Wonder Warthog

What in the heck was wrong with that jury???!!!!!


20 posted on 11/21/2013 6:29:15 PM PST by Shimmer1 (don 't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference)
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To: fso301

The cop was wrong and it was bull crap.


21 posted on 11/21/2013 6:29:50 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: fso301

Right, if we kowtow to the poe lees then we aren’t as likely to be assaulted


22 posted on 11/21/2013 6:30:19 PM PST by Shimmer1 (don 't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference)
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To: Age of Reason

I know! How dare he flaunt his rights!!!!


23 posted on 11/21/2013 6:31:26 PM PST by Shimmer1 (don 't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference)
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To: gaijin

Convention in the south once held blacks would use a special faucet —it was not law but it was wrong. And when people did not follow the convention then there was a process if adjustment.

This is the same.


24 posted on 11/21/2013 6:32:25 PM PST by gaijin
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To: fso301

to do his job he copuld have asked a couple of simple questions before assaulting the hiker.

He had a gun too that he could use if the man acted iun a threatening manner.

Unless the man made a move for his properly and legally carried rifle, he had no cause to grab that gun.


25 posted on 11/21/2013 6:33:03 PM PST by digger48
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To: fso301

Understanding of the officer’s situation?
WTH does that mean? That the fat-arsed officer couldn’t get it up for his ole lady and felt the need to “be a man” when confronting a citizen acting within his rights?

Please, don’t spew lapdog rhetoric when an ignorant public servant is oblivious to the laws he is supposed to enforce and acting outside the realm of legality and deference to the rights of the citizenry.


26 posted on 11/21/2013 6:33:28 PM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: lavaroise

Another hero ignorant cop who is not seeing the drug dealers screwing his daughter at public school
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Nah, if this pussy of a cop has a daughter she’d likely be so unattractive that no drug dealer would be interested in screwing her. If he had a son, that son may be giving BJs to the local Mexican drug dealers if the son is anything at all like the father the pussy cop.

The three videos in their entirety make it clear that the only “crime” was not being totally subservient to the cop; and that’s not a crime. The jury should be ashamed of returning the verdict they did. I did note that the first jury trial in this case resulted in a mistrial and this stupid municipality chose to spend taxpayer money on yet another trial to obtain a conviction.


27 posted on 11/21/2013 6:33:31 PM PST by House Atreides ( D)
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To: fso301
some remote road looking for two males, at least one of them is heavily armed?

lots of mass shootings happen on remote roads, don't they

28 posted on 11/21/2013 6:34:59 PM PST by digger48
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To: fso301

“What would any of us do in his situation if we were dispatched to some remote road looking for two males, at least one of them is heavily armed?”

In Temple, Texas I would simply wave as I drove by.


29 posted on 11/21/2013 6:36:49 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (What we need is to sucker the fedthugs into a "Tiananmen Square"-like incident on the National Mall!)
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To: gaijin
He was walking calmly with his son.

On a 10 mile hike through rural area where people generally know their neighbors but he wasn't a neighbor so, one of them called the police to report two armed men they didn't recognize walking down the road.

When a resident reports suspicious activity, the police have to investigate. So, the approaching officer didn't know what was going on with the two men. Maybe they were rustlers. Maybe they were burglars. Maybe they were highly dangerous fleeing felons whose car had broken down.

30 posted on 11/21/2013 6:38:28 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

Guilty until proven innocent, eh?


31 posted on 11/21/2013 6:41:02 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
In Temple, Texas I would simply wave as I drove by.

In rural areas, neighbors know each other. Nobody recognized them. One of the neighbors probably fed up with rustlers, thieves and trespassers phoned in a report of two suspicious armed males.

32 posted on 11/21/2013 6:41:26 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

If the man was carrying a shotgun, would this have happened?

Around here, if a man is walking down a remote road with a gun, everyone would think they are hunting.


33 posted on 11/21/2013 6:42:24 PM PST by digger48
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To: digger48
Around here, if a man is walking down a remote road with a gun, everyone would think they are hunting.

The guy was not dressed like a hunter and nobody in the area recognized him which is why someone called the police..

34 posted on 11/21/2013 6:44:09 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

Uh huh

“Gee, I saw this Black guy driving an expensive car, so I pulled him over to see if he had stolen it. I mean, heh heh, what Black dude has that kinda money, or job, to drive a better car than *I* do?”

Yeah, construct an excuse and flaunt your badge and sidearm.

Great cops you kneel before.


35 posted on 11/21/2013 6:44:35 PM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: lowbridge

A clear cut case of contempt of cop. What do they say...you might beat the rap, but you won’t beat the ride.

I’m thinking there might be a payout at the end of this.


36 posted on 11/21/2013 6:44:44 PM PST by Sylvester McMonkey McBean
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To: fso301

“The officer wants to go home safe and sound at the end of his shift. “

Then he should no longer be a cop. If he’s that big of a pussy he shouldn’t have a badge.


37 posted on 11/21/2013 6:45:11 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: digger48
lots of mass shootings happen on remote roads, don't they

I think the cop was more concerned about the possibility of a lone shooting.

38 posted on 11/21/2013 6:45:46 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

Wipe your chin, your boot polish is smeared.


39 posted on 11/21/2013 6:46:29 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: fso301

You’re right and i do value officer safety. I just cant understandwhy he had to abruptly and brusquely physically manhandle this father in front of his son. This involves a loss uv face.

Why did he need to suddenly grab him?

It seems that stopping, peering at his id and consulting a database should have done nicely —a mature , adult interaction.

Bad people have always hated cops but now also some good people do so, also.

Its sad and america should not be like this.


40 posted on 11/21/2013 6:48:33 PM PST by gaijin
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To: fso301

give it up you sound like Obama grasping at straws to excuse his conduct...
the cop was wrong and escalated the situation unnecessarily...
so what if someone made a report of someone walking with a firearm, that is not a crime.


41 posted on 11/21/2013 6:48:56 PM PST by rolling_stone
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nobody in the area recognized him

Disingenuous. I'm pretty sure they did not canvas the area to establish the fact that "nobody" recognized him.

I'm thinking that "one person" didn't recognize him and called the police. I live in a rural area, and I can tell you that not EVERYONE in my area recognizes me. Does that mean I lose all of my constitutional rights?

42 posted on 11/21/2013 6:49:18 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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I live in the country and I wouldn’t know the faces of any of my neighbors that live farther than the one right next door.

Never met them, but I tink that old guy that walks by every morning since his herat attack might be a real threat.


43 posted on 11/21/2013 6:50:08 PM PST by digger48
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To: fso301

The officer was a moron..and should be sued out of his job.
Period


44 posted on 11/21/2013 7:01:46 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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Maybe they were rustlers. Maybe they were burglars. Maybe they were highly dangerous fleeing felons whose car had broken down.

Rustlers? On foot? Were there any cattle in the area?

Burglars? Was there a burglary reported?

Highly dangerous felons? On a 10 mile hike?

You're reaching...

45 posted on 11/21/2013 7:02:32 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: fso301
Once again....

Did you WATCH the vid?

46 posted on 11/21/2013 7:02:48 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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In rural areas, neighbors know each other. Nobody recognized them. One of the neighbors probably fed up with rustlers, thieves and trespassers phoned in a report of two suspicious armed males.

Ah, so then you have information about rustlers in the area? Thieves? Trespassers?

Or, are you pulling this out of your butt?

Yukon, is that you?

47 posted on 11/21/2013 7:03:55 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: gaijin
I just cant understand why he had to abruptly and brusquely physically manhandle this father in front of his son.

Exactly. That says it all. THAT is what escalated the situation needlessly. Tyranny naturally flows from such behavior on the officer's part...

48 posted on 11/21/2013 7:05:06 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: fso301
Yeah "rustlers" on foot....

We see that a lot up here!!

49 posted on 11/21/2013 7:05:25 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: lowbridge

Seems like there’s been an increase in crap from LEOs in Texas lately.


50 posted on 11/21/2013 7:06:01 PM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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