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(Democratic) Older hill aides shocked by Obamacare prices [Waah alert!]
Politico ^ | 11/21/2013 | Jonathan Allen and Jennifer Haberkorn

Posted on 11/21/2013 6:01:22 PM PST by markomalley

Veteran House Democratic aides are sick over the insurance prices they’ll pay under Obamacare, and they’re scrambling to find a cure.

“In a shock to the system, the older staff in my office (folks over 59) have now found out their personal health insurance costs (even with the government contribution) have gone up 3-4 times what they were paying before,” Minh Ta, chief of staff to Rep. Gwen Moore (D-Wis.), wrote to fellow Democratic chiefs of staff in an email message obtained by POLITICO. “Simply unacceptable.”

In the email, Ta noted that older congressional staffs may leave their jobs because of the change to their health insurance.

Under the Affordable Care Act, and federal regulations, many congressional staffers — designated as “official” aides — were forced to move out of the old heavily subsidized Federal Employees Health Benefits program and into the District of Columbia’s health insurance marketplace exchange. Others designated as “unofficial” were allowed to stay in the FEHB program. Managers had to choose whether aides were “official” or “unofficial” by Oct. 31, and Ta said that wasn’t enough time to make an informed decision about who would benefit and who would lose out by going into the new system.

Moore’s office was one of those in which all staff were designated as “official” and pushed into the exchanges. That ended up being a problem for older staff, who weren’t accustomed to paying higher premiums because of their age.

But age is one of the few factors insurers can use to adjust prices under Obamacare — and older people will often pay much more than younger people.

For instance, the premiums for gold-level Aetna HMO plans in D.C. cost an average of $684.40 per month for a 55-year-old. A similar plan would cost an average of $287.11 for a 27-year-old. The gold-level CareFirst HMO plans have an average premium of $573.07 for a 55-year-old — more than double the $240.41 average for 27-year-olds. That’s before the federal employee contribution toward the premium.

In an interview with POLITICO, Ta emphasized that “employees are not dissatisfied with the Affordable Care Act” and that some younger staffers have seen their premiums fall. But, he noted, congressional aides are treated differently now than other federal employees, and he would like to be able to offer the best health insurance option available to his employees — even if that means some of them are covered under the old system and others jump into the exchanges.

He wrote in his email that he had asked Democratic staff on the House Administration Committee whether she could redesignate some of the aides on Moore’s payroll as nonofficial office staff so that they could avoid the exchange and keep their FEHB plans.

“So far the answer is no, and that we have the opportunity next year to redesignate staff,” Ta wrote. “I am asking for a solution now though because I will lose staff in my office because of this snafu and I mentioned to payroll and House Admin[istration Committee] that it was unfair for our offices to make this designation without allowing our staff the ability [to] actually go on the DCshop to compare rates. I would have made a different decision on the designation of my older staff.”

Ta concluded by asking other chiefs of staff to join him in petitioning the Administration Committee for an immediate fix. Glenn Rushing, chief of staff to Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, quickly replied to the group that he would join the fight.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: ageism; democraticaides; incometax; obamacare; obamarecession; obamataxhikes; zerocare
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I wouldn't normally post something from the left-wing rag Politico, but reading this Dhimwit whine is worth it (IMHO).
1 posted on 11/21/2013 6:01:22 PM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

They deserve ridicule.


2 posted on 11/21/2013 6:01:52 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: markomalley
In an interview with POLITICO, Ta emphasized that “employees are not dissatisfied with the Affordable Care Act” and that some younger staffers have seen their premiums fall.

Even if true, which I doubt, bet their deductible went way way up!

3 posted on 11/21/2013 6:05:20 PM PST by uncitizen (Obama said 'period', but he meant 'asterisk'.)
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To: markomalley
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5 posted on 11/21/2013 6:09:06 PM PST by Junk Silver
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To: markomalley
I'm trying to shed a tear.....................
Still trying...............................
Not yet. ...............

Maybe later.

6 posted on 11/21/2013 6:09:30 PM PST by Ditto
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To: markomalley

These are the flamers that wrote this monstrosity. We must keep vigilant so that we leave them no wiggle room to further “enhance” their coverage.


7 posted on 11/21/2013 6:09:35 PM PST by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: markomalley
Schradenfreud (sic)

DELICIOUS That's what you get for being a worthless, teat nibbling bureaucrat of the STD Party

8 posted on 11/21/2013 6:10:24 PM PST by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: markomalley

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA..
(gag)(cough)(choke)
(gasp)...I can’t breathe....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


9 posted on 11/21/2013 6:10:25 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Viennacon

The absolutely do.
We told them over and over what would happen.


10 posted on 11/21/2013 6:10:32 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: markomalley
Simply unacceptable.

Quite a few of us have been saying that. Welcome to the party, pal.

employees are not dissatisfied with the Affordable Care Act

No, of course not - they're out there with pitchforks and torches as a part of a Christmas - sorry, "Holiday" - skit. And so the answer is to make things better for everybody in the country, right? Wrong. What they want to do is

...redesignate some of the aides on Moore’s payroll as nonofficial office staff so that they could avoid the exchange and keep their FEHB plans.

Hey, what happened to "If you like your plan you can keep it. Period."? What happened to fixing it for everybody instead of just Congressional staffers? What happened to sharing the burden?

Kill this obscenity. Now. And drive a stake through its heart.

11 posted on 11/21/2013 6:10:36 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: markomalley
They can arbitrarily decide what staff is 'official' and what staff is 'unofficial' and somehow this has an impact on what they pay for health insurance?

The bubble that our congresscritters and their sycophants live in is thicker and more impregnable than I thought!

12 posted on 11/21/2013 6:10:41 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: markomalley
Minh Ta, chief of staff to Rep. Gwen Moore (D-Wis.), wrote to fellow Democratic chiefs of staff in an email message obtained by POLITICO. “Simply unacceptable.”

It used to look good to them, but now they find it... simply unacceptable.

13 posted on 11/21/2013 6:11:24 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Visit the beltway sometime.
It’s extremely educational.
I recommend it for all taxpayers.


14 posted on 11/21/2013 6:15:55 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone you see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: markomalley

Now they know how they little people feel.


15 posted on 11/21/2013 6:17:12 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: markomalley

Great post. After the Reid treachery, I needed a laugh.


16 posted on 11/21/2013 6:17:53 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: markomalley

and the RATS, take another one in the.........HA ha!!!

17 posted on 11/21/2013 6:18:05 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: uncitizen
bet their deductible went way way up!

That part always seems to be left out.

18 posted on 11/21/2013 6:20:06 PM PST by digger48
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To: markomalley

They’ll lose staff? Where will they go? Do they realize the taxpayers are paying 75% of their premium and when they go to another job they will probably not get ANY subsidies?


19 posted on 11/21/2013 6:24:56 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: digger48

F’n propagandists! Can’t believe everyone doesn’t see it.


20 posted on 11/21/2013 6:25:51 PM PST by uncitizen (Obama said 'period', but he meant 'asterisk'.)
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To: markomalley

wow


21 posted on 11/21/2013 6:26:22 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: markomalley

“snafu” my rear end


22 posted on 11/21/2013 6:27:32 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: markomalley

23 posted on 11/21/2013 6:31:06 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: markomalley
Suckers!

If you voted for it you deserve it!

Eat Your Peas!

24 posted on 11/21/2013 6:35:17 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: markomalley

Title should have read “BWahahahahahah alert”


25 posted on 11/21/2013 6:37:06 PM PST by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: markomalley

Love it!


26 posted on 11/21/2013 6:39:09 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: markomalley

The people who wrote the PP&ACA don’t know what is in it? Does that sound credulous to you?


27 posted on 11/21/2013 6:41:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: markomalley

Welcome to the real world Obama lovers.

LMAO, this may be so bad that Democrat Congressional staffer will be voting against Democrats.

And they get subsidies.


28 posted on 11/21/2013 6:43:32 PM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The people that wrote it really do not know what is in it.

Sebelius and Obama keep changing it and adding regulations.

This isn’t a law it’s an open way to destroy the Middle class and take away any money Americans might have to spend at small business’s. Thereby killing small business.


29 posted on 11/21/2013 6:48:19 PM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
They can arbitrarily decide what staff is 'official' and what staff is 'unofficial' and somehow this has an impact on what they pay for health insurance?

I would like to get my re-designation now. We get one too, right? What? I can't hear you over the crickets.

30 posted on 11/21/2013 6:56:22 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: PistolPaknMama

Sorry, dear, waivers are for Democrats....


31 posted on 11/21/2013 6:57:13 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: markomalley

A good, hard kick in the ‘nads? The aparatchniks? I missed it.
Can I see it again?

‘Sure, kid.’
“Ow, My Balls!”


32 posted on 11/21/2013 6:58:02 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: MUDDOG
many congressional staffers — designated as “official” aides — were forced to move out of the old heavily subsidized Federal Employees Health Benefits program and into the District of Columbia’s health insurance marketplace exchange.

By heavily subsidized they mean 70% of the premium is covered by the government for a choice of policies that mostly break down to an 80% /20% insurance/benificiary benefit. When the employees are move to the exchanges the government pays up to 75% for what ends up being the same cost breakdown with higher deductibles.

I wonder how many chiefs of staff are career federal employees. One would think if they aren't they could easily move to K street if the health coverage is so bad. They could also punch their boss in the face for not designating them as an employee that gets to keep their FEHB.

33 posted on 11/21/2013 7:17:06 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: markomalley

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Gwennie is my Congresswoman. This is really delicious.


34 posted on 11/21/2013 7:25:03 PM PST by TommyC1 (Fair tax, income tax, stupid ideas)
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To: USNBandit

Perhaps they doth complain too much.


35 posted on 11/21/2013 7:32:20 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: Ditto

How about never?


36 posted on 11/21/2013 7:32:48 PM PST by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: markomalley

Who wooda thunk it? Congressional aids finding out that they’re really just peasants like the rest of us.


37 posted on 11/21/2013 7:40:22 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: markomalley
Why all this concern over a minuscule subset of the population? It's not as if the entire taxpaying populace of the country isn't facing the same or fearing it. They foisted this monstrosity and they should be subject to it too, not able to wheedle and whinge their way out of it.
38 posted on 11/21/2013 7:40:59 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

we should never have been subsidizing their insurance to start with


39 posted on 11/21/2013 7:42:09 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: markomalley

I can and I do get my care from the VA, when I have a good year I use BC/BS and insure myself wife and kids. We paid $700 month in 2011 and it went up about 25% a year.

I’m amused but not surprised by the fact that everybody whether they are on the left or right are so surprised by how much health insurance costs.

Something that is overlooked here is that most Americans don’t know or care what the actual costs are.

This is a huge problem for any fiscal conservative. We can say cut spending but with the American medicare/welfare state existing as it does simple math says healthcare spending for baby boomers in the next 40 years will bankrupt the USA.


40 posted on 11/21/2013 8:18:39 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: markomalley

Can’t understand that few know the difference between Democrat and Democratic.

A Republican is a member of the Republican Party.

A Democrat is a member of the Democrat (not Democratic) Party.


41 posted on 11/21/2013 8:44:32 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: markomalley

The longer this bill stays in law the stronger the cash for medical care market grows.

This bill mitigates having health insurance since the price of having it and paying for it have skyrocketed. It has gone from being a mainstream, middle-class thing to something that only the moneyed to have.

Drop insurance, folks. I will be doing so. It has lost it’s value. Having “insurance” that costs $4-5-800 a month with deductibles of $6-8-10,000 is no longer insurance.....it’s a scam. A tax. A way to bleed your checking account. They’ll come after your 401k later.


42 posted on 11/21/2013 8:53:19 PM PST by FAA
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To: FAA

Dump insurance?

Ok when you are hit by a bus its ok for you and most importanmtly for your kids/relatives that you are left in the street?

If you stoke out there is none of this life is prescious BS and no feeding tubes right?

I don’t give a rats ass whether you have insurance but don’t expect me and the other taxpayers to pay for you and your families care ...


43 posted on 11/21/2013 9:06:20 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: nascarnation
Visit the beltway sometime. It’s extremely educational. I recommend it for all taxpayers.

I drove through there circa 2003 on the way from NJ to KY, on family business. Listening to the radio and waiting for the HOV lane to time out was enough for me.

44 posted on 11/21/2013 9:57:57 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

credulous s/b credible ... the credulous believe the incredible.


45 posted on 11/21/2013 10:21:37 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: FAA
They’ll come after your 401k later.

I do believe this, or fear it, at least. I am low hanging fruit. I know that.

46 posted on 11/21/2013 10:24:44 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: MUDDOG

They certainly won’t get much sympathy from the average informed American who is scared sh$&less about their future health care.


47 posted on 11/21/2013 10:26:02 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: 353FMG

Can’t understand that few know the difference between Democrat and Democratic.
A Republican is a member of the Republican Party.
A Democrat is a member of the Democrat (not Democratic) Party.
*******************************
Exactly the words I’ve been tempted to post for years!

Irritates the crap out of me when they are referred to as the Democratic Party!


48 posted on 11/21/2013 11:21:08 PM PST by octex
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To: markomalley
"In an interview with POLITICO, Ta emphasized that “employees are not dissatisfied with the Affordable Care Act” "

Strong with them, the stupid is...


49 posted on 11/22/2013 1:41:58 AM PST by mbennett203 ("Bulrog, a tough brute ninja who has dedicated his life to eradicating the world from hippies.")
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To: octex

It is our highly educated and trained MSM that is perpetuating this grammatical error and the polulation just falls in line behind them.


50 posted on 11/22/2013 6:35:00 AM PST by 353FMG
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