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Republican Alternative to Obamacare Gaining Momentum, Billís Sponsor Says
Cybercast News Service ^ | November 21, 2013 - 8:19 AM | Susan Jones

Posted on 11/21/2013 8:51:58 PM PST by Olog-hai

Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) says increasing access to health care and lowering health care costs are at the heart of his bill that stands as an alternative to Obamacare.

“We drafted this bill with a working group of members of the Republican Study Committee, which I chair,” Scalise told Fox News’ Neil Cavuto on Wednesday. He said momentum is building for the American Health Care Reform Act, which is being taken “very seriously.”

“It’s a very concise bill. It’s less than 200 pages long. It’s not the 2,700-page bill that Obamacare is,” Scalise said.

“And also we have over 100 members of Congress now that have co-sponsored it. And we had medical doctors who serve in Congress, like Dr. Phil Roe, help write this bill. This is a bill based on putting patients back in charge of their health care and lowering the cost and getting government out of health care decisions.” …

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: abortion; districtofcolumbia; gopalternative; louisiana; obamacare; stevescalise

1 posted on 11/21/2013 8:51:58 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

NO PORK! ZERO!


2 posted on 11/21/2013 8:56:06 PM PST by Kenny
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To: Olog-hai

Keep the spotlight on the Democrats!


3 posted on 11/21/2013 8:57:33 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Ray76

I’m sure they have a decent bill, but not NOW! Let the Dems sink with obamacare in 2014. For them to pass this ow- if it would pass - is just wrong. Don’t bail the commies out!


4 posted on 11/21/2013 9:04:48 PM PST by Catsrus (A)
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To: Olog-hai; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; BillyBoy; NFHale
I read it at link.

That sounds like it could be used as a political weapon except there is one huge hole in the current ‘no personal mandates’ rule that has been adopted in reaction to Obama-care, and the hole is in this plan.

That is the federal mandate that hospitals must treat anyone who show up in emergency room then try to get the $$$ back later, usually eating the bills and charging the rest of patients. In Maryland we pay a special tax that reimburses hospitals for this.

I know it may be heresy but that is NOT working and it will be used effectively to beat Republicans on it as it was before.

Any 'plan' ignoring that big problem will be seen as a loser except by the choir.

5 posted on 11/21/2013 9:07:46 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Olog-hai

Conservatives (not to be confused with Rep. Scalise (R-La.)) - do not need to propose an “alternative plan”. Our plan is to repeal Obamacare and get goverment out of the healthcare field altogether.

Conservatives look at government as the problem, not the solution. This is the most fundamental distinction between conservatism and liberalism. He obviously is no conservative.


6 posted on 11/21/2013 9:11:57 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Olog-hai

I don’t want a group of republican politicians tinkering with my healthcare any more than a group of democrats doing the same. Haven’t we learned anything from obamacare? Keep Washington out of it.


7 posted on 11/21/2013 9:13:50 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Catsrus

“I’m sure they have a decent bill, but not NOW!”

What are you talking about? This isn’t a delay or fix to help Socialized Medicine work out its kinks before taking over next year. It’s a complete repeal of Obamacare combined with sensible free-market reforms. This must be done NOW. Government entitlement programs are the only immortal things man has ever created. Every second we let Obama’s Socialist filth further penetrate our society it becomes less likely that we will ever cast it off.

Even if this won’t get through the Senate, let’s make Reid refuse to vote on it every day until the Nov 2014 elections, and let’s for once let the American people know that there is another option, and who it is who is keeping that option from them.


8 posted on 11/21/2013 9:15:50 PM PST by Junk Silver
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To: GSWarrior

Haven’t we learned anything from obamacare? Keep Washington out of it.


Repeat LOUD and OFTEN.


9 posted on 11/21/2013 9:15:56 PM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: Olog-hai

That’s what I want, lower priced healthcare that offers more, and doesn’t require me to become a ward of the federal government, like Obamacare does. When it is a matter of give me liberty, or give me health insurance, I’ll take liberty every time.


10 posted on 11/21/2013 9:16:41 PM PST by pallis
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To: sickoflibs

Well the hospitals don’t quantify the effect of non insurance eroom coverage and don’t let you know what subsidies they get for the coverage. for regular insurance coverage that we do pay for: the hosp and docs charge 1200 for a service — the insco pays 300 via contact — the hosp/docs write off the rest. not a good business model. Health insurance can’t survive paying for health care oil changes(doc visits). currently ours does.


11 posted on 11/21/2013 9:38:09 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (i don't believe any court in this country is operating lawfully anyway)
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To: bigbob

“repeal Obamacare and get goverment out of the healthcare field altogether.”

Amen Brother!


12 posted on 11/21/2013 9:42:26 PM PST by Ray76
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To: kvanbrunt2
RE :”Well the hospitals don’t quantify the effect of non insurance eroom coverage and don’t let you know what subsidies they get for the coverage. for regular insurance coverage that we do pay for: the hosp and docs charge 1200 for a service — the insco pays 300 via contact — the hosp/docs write off the rest. not a good business model. Health insurance can’t survive paying for health care oil changes(doc visits). currently ours does.”

Regardless, in the 1980s the congress under Reagan passed a law requiring emergency rooms to treat people regardless of if they can or will pay, even illegals, anyone.

This was the first instance of compassionate conservatism and today we hear GOP resorting to claiming that it *works*

Three unpopular fixes come to mind: A personal mandate that covers JUST that freebee just like auto-insur-liability, or repeal that mandate on hospitals. Another is a tax to pay for it. All unpopular (a shame someone has to pay eventually isn't it?)

But they shouldnt claim that ‘works’ and expect to be taken serious.

13 posted on 11/21/2013 9:53:18 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Junk Silver

Agree.


14 posted on 11/21/2013 9:58:11 PM PST by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: Olog-hai

Why, precisely, would we trust someone who thinks 200 pages is “very concise”?

Here’s an even more concise version: Repeal the thing, in its entirety, immediately!


15 posted on 11/21/2013 10:07:49 PM PST by irv (Live Tea or die!)
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To: Olog-hai
This sounds like another pie-in-the-sky unworkable plan.

You cannot legislate lower costs unless you institute price controls.

All you can do is allow for free markets and hope the market can lower prices.

If this passes, it smells like a way for the Republicans to take the blame when the whole thing crashes.

This is the one-party system setting us up for single-payer.

16 posted on 11/21/2013 10:12:45 PM PST by ClaytonP
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To: GSWarrior
“Haven’t we learned anything from obamacare? Keep Washington out of it.”

On principle, I agree with you, but as a doc I know that it is very difficult at this point to ‘keep Washington out of it’ because we have built a system for years and years and years that is dependent upon federal programs/monies (e.g. Medicare). Honestly, very, very few Americans can afford to pay for much more than routine check ups etc. out of pocket. There are so many layers of expense for everything medical. Need a CT scan with IV and oral contrast? Well, there's the cost of the scanner, the upkeep, the technician's salary, the cost of the blood test you will need to ensure that your kidneys can handle the IV contrast, the cost of the oral contrast and bowel prep you may have to go through, the cost of the radiologist interpreting the test, and nowadays there is a built in cost for the electronic medical record system that had to be put in place to comply with national standards. The bottom line? It's expensive.

Can we address these issues? Yes, but it is not going to be easy.

17 posted on 11/21/2013 10:26:08 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: bigbob
Conservatives (not to be confused with Rep. Scalise (R-La.)) - do not need to propose an “alternative plan”. Our plan is to repeal Obamacare and get goverment out of the healthcare field altogether.

Conservatives look at government as the problem, not the solution. This is the most fundamental distinction between conservatism and liberalism. He obviously is no conservative.

I read the whole article.

I'm with you in that I'm aware that government has no Constitutional authority to meddle in health care.

However, allowing insurance sales across state lines and reforming malpractice laws go a long way to getting the government out of it.

It's a damn sight better than Obamacare.

And, yes, we do need an "alternate plan". There will be no senate, congressional, or public support for repeal if there is no "alternate plan".

18 posted on 11/21/2013 10:57:59 PM PST by Washi
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To: Catsrus

It’s a decent bill if it returns everything to the private sector, and gets the government out of it period.

If it’s warmed over RomneyCare on the rotisserie, it’ll be the same damned thing as Obamacare, unConstitutional, and eventually unsustainable.

We need to be moving in the other direction, getting government out of these programs, not into more of them.


19 posted on 11/21/2013 11:03:32 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
the American Health Care Reform Act...
thanks Olog-hai.


20 posted on 11/22/2013 12:41:16 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
On principle, I agree with you, but as a doc I know that it is very difficult at this point to ‘keep Washington out of it’ because we have built a system for years and years and years that is dependent upon federal programs/monies (e.g. Medicare).

As much as I hate to, reality compels me to agree completely. Once Medicare and Medicaid started, that was it. We will never get government out of healthcare, period. Whatever reforms this bill proposes (I have not read it) it must include top to bottom tort reform with serious consequences for frivolous/fraudulent litigation and absolute caps on monetary awards.
21 posted on 11/22/2013 1:07:10 AM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Olog-hai

Doesn’t matter; the Senate now is a rubber stamp for Valerie’s judges, so any Republican plan that miraculously gets passed will be ruled unconstitutional.


22 posted on 11/22/2013 1:41:10 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Olog-hai
The Republican "alternative to ObamaCare" plan must begin with massive tort reform plus significant elimination of most of the massive overhead-skyrocketing-middle-men-pencil-pushers currently interposed between the doctor/patient relationship (i.e., address the parasite industries sucking on the healthcare system) to address the problems with the cost of healthcare.
In short, return to free market principles.
23 posted on 11/22/2013 1:42:43 AM PST by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: Olog-hai
...getting government out of health care decisions.

Aw, shucks, does that mean we can't have death panels?

24 posted on 11/22/2013 2:40:16 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (What happened to my tagline??)
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To: Olog-hai; All

Obamacare Lite is any Insurance Bill that any Republican can dream up.

We voted down Romneycare in 2012.

In 2013 Obamacare is a disastrous failure.

Now RINOs are proving that they are incapable of learning from the lessons of History.

WE DO NOT WANT GOVERNMENT RUN INSURANCE !


25 posted on 11/22/2013 3:01:12 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: PeterPrinciple; All

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26 posted on 11/22/2013 3:01:56 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Olog-hai

Kill it. If they won’t do it, vote them out.


27 posted on 11/22/2013 3:14:08 AM PST by stilloftyhenight (TEA baby! Let's roll!)
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To: pallis

“lower priced healthcare that offers more, and doesn’t require me to become a ward of the federal government, like Obamacare does.”

Very sad story on Fox last night (Megyn’s show, I think). A woman’s insurance (which she loved) was cancelled. She looked at her options on the Lucifercare website. Before she made a decision, she was told “Congratulations!” and discovered she was on Medicaid and there was no way to reverse it. She’s an independent person, with low income, and is humiliated to be on the dole now.


28 posted on 11/22/2013 3:16:36 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it's free." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Olog-hai

Is it still mandatory participation in the republican proposal?


29 posted on 11/22/2013 4:43:27 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Your points are spot on. But both parties are going to have to be involved in any healthcare reform. One party acting without input from the other party is a recipe for disaster, IMO


30 posted on 11/22/2013 6:27:02 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: PeterPrinciple

“Haven’t we learned anything from obamacare? Keep Washington out of it.”

Unfortunately in Washington’s mind they have to pass a law to do that. They “are” after all the all mightily dictators of all laws both foreign and domestic much as their constitution is a ‘discarded relic’ of more lawful times.


31 posted on 11/22/2013 5:52:16 PM PST by Monorprise
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Slate Discovers Scalise Did Not Attend White Supremacist Event


32 posted on 12/31/2014 11:00:57 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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