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2015 Obamacare Enrollment Will Be Delayed Until Just After the Midterms
New York Magazine ^ | November 21, 2013 | Margaret Hartmann

Posted on 11/21/2013 11:31:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The White House is planning to tweak Obamacare deadlines again to make up for the botched rollout, and the latest move appears to be both practical and politically advantageous. The enrollment period for 2015 is scheduled to start on Oct. 15, but Bloomberg reports that date will be pushed back a month, according to an official from the Department of Health and Human Services who asked to remain anonymous because the decision hasn't been announced. The stated purpose is to give insurers more time to deal with technical problems, analyze the mix of people signing up through the marketplaces (which is particularly important since younger, healthier people are expected to wait until the last minute), and set rates for 2015. And in a happy coincidence for Democrats, enrollment would start 11 days after the midterm elections.

According to Politico, the HHS official described the delay as "good news for consumers, who will have more time to learn about plans before enrolling." Enrollment for 2015 is currently set to run from Oct. 15, 2014 to Dec. 7, 2014, but the change would add an extra week, with sign-ups beginning on Nov. 15, 2014 and ending on Jan. 15, 2015. If premiums shoot up in 2015, it could be disasterous, and Jonathan Gruber, an MIT economist who helped design the law, told Bloomberg, "It’s in the nation’s interest [that insurers] get time to make those decisions."

Plus, as noted by Mike Tuffin, a former insurance industry lobbyist and current managing director of APCO Worldwide's D.C. office, thanks to the month-long delay, "consumers will not see their 2015 premiums until after the midterm elections, instead of immediately before." Tuffin adds, "One doesn’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to divine the motive here." And if anyone doesn't see it, Obamacare's opponents should be eager to spell it out.


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1 posted on 11/21/2013 11:31:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This pushes the second wave of 100 million cancellations past the election.

Such is The Obama Law of The Land.

2 posted on 11/21/2013 11:34:42 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (What we said when we said what we said was. Period. End of story.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Republicans can run a FUD campaign, and they have a lot more credibility. Plus, there should be cancellation notices being sent out regardless.


3 posted on 11/21/2013 11:35:22 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WHACK

They’re in full demonic-rat protection mode, but that crap won’t sell.


4 posted on 11/21/2013 11:35:45 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Democrats are engineering their own genuine FUD scenario; why would Republicans need to do a single thing but sit there and watch it happen? The quieter the GOP are right now (other than putting up the occasional return-to-sanity bill only to see it hysterically swatted down), the better. Let people’s faces get completely full of Rat. They’ll hate Rat all the more later.


5 posted on 11/21/2013 11:38:27 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: onyx

that crap won’t sell.

***

Nope, it sure won’t.

They’re in trouble and they know it.


6 posted on 11/21/2013 11:41:32 PM PST by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The stated purpose is to give insurers more time to deal with technical problems...”

Such as the Namesake changing the rules again with six weeks left before the New Year?


7 posted on 11/21/2013 11:41:47 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: pax_et_bonum

They’re in trouble and they know it.
**

That’s right.


8 posted on 11/21/2013 11:43:14 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

9 posted on 11/21/2013 11:56:06 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: onyx

They’re in full demonic-rat protection mode, but that crap won’t sell.


Yes it will. The most damage won’t happen until AFTER the election. The donks in the senate will be safe.


10 posted on 11/21/2013 11:57:45 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Couldn’t dem opponents campaign on viable projections, point out that they are being delayed, and call the dems liars, on top of everything else. If, that’s a big IF, with republicans, if they handle this right, they could really shine some light on the dems - and it wouldn’t be the first time americans had been lied to by the admin.


11 posted on 11/22/2013 12:01:39 AM PST by true believer forever (Give me this mountain, Lord.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The insurance companies are just going to have to get their ummm...ummmm...non-renewal notices out a month early....lol


12 posted on 11/22/2013 12:04:59 AM PST by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Obamacare” won’t make it to the midterms. Wayyy too many pissed-off low-info voters (the Democrat base). Never has a political party done anything that more alienated its essential voters than the 100% Democrat “Obamacare” has. They’ll keep desperately spinning it, but it’s curtains.


13 posted on 11/22/2013 12:06:38 AM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Must mean the projected premiums for 2015 are looking like they have to be double 2014 to cover for the losses happening right now.


14 posted on 11/22/2013 12:07:27 AM PST by ToastedHead
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To: Vince Ferrer

Make a Facebook page. Put a statement on it saying if the government doesn’t repeal obamacare - people will withdraw all their money from the banks. Set a date for a Monday.

Three hours to three days later, it will be repealed.

I call this The Nuclear Option, or Bank-Run Activism.


15 posted on 11/22/2013 12:07:47 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (What we said when we said what we said was. Period. End of story.)
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To: ToastedHead

At minimum, I’ll wager.


16 posted on 11/22/2013 12:10:06 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Impeachment in One Article:

Obama is willfully negligent in enforcing the ACA as passed into law.

Watch House dems squirm and Senate dems choke on it.


17 posted on 11/22/2013 12:10:14 AM PST by bakeneko
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To: chessplayer

But what about all the people who have already been kicked off their insurance or their Doctor is no longer available? They have already been adversely affected and in 2014 come Tax day there will be some mad people who will be having to pay not a 95.00 penalty as they were told but 1% of their salary for not having insurance what about those people they will be pissed.


18 posted on 11/22/2013 12:10:34 AM PST by funfan
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To: JennysCool
We need MORE pissed off voters.

Why is there a delay?

As a contingency.

On July 2 Obama announced a year delay for business with 50 or more employees.

Why? Because in March[1,2] he was briefed on a report warning of the potential for system failure that could make the health care exchanges inaccessible to consumers trying to buy insurance through them.

Most people have insurance through their employer.

By delaying the mandate for employers he minimized the number of persons effected by a non-functioning website.

His illegal delay decree ought to be declared by Congress as irrelevant, of no force, and DEMAND that the law be enforced. DO NOT GIVE OBAMA THE LUXURY OF TIME.

TIME IS NOT OUR ALLY - IT IS OBAMA'S!

He’s betting on the website being operational by the time the vast majority of people lose their employer provided insurance.

CEDING TIME TO OBAMA MEANS WE LOSE.


[1] http://washingtonexaminer.com/white-house-obama-was-aware-of-march-report-on-website-problems/article/2539423

[2] http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/19/us-usa-healthcare-idUSBRE9AI18920131119

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/19/white-house-despite-assurances-knew-obamacare-glit/

19 posted on 11/22/2013 12:16:45 AM PST by Ray76
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To: Ray76

Oh, there will be enough that the rest will get the message.

If they are willing.

If not, then yes, another passage through the wringer is prescribed by the Lion of Judah, aka the Great Physician.


20 posted on 11/22/2013 12:21:42 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

You don’t even need a huge number of people to do that. I got yelled at for not giving enough notice when I wanted 10k in cash last year.


21 posted on 11/22/2013 12:22:34 AM PST by ToastedHead
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet
The White House is planning to tweak Obamacare deadlines again to make up for the botched rollout, and the latest move appears to be both practical and politically advantageous.
Law? He don't need no steeeenkeeeeeng law!


22 posted on 11/22/2013 12:24:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It can only work about once. They are moving to electronic money as soon as they can.


23 posted on 11/22/2013 12:27:12 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And now that the communists have made the Senate a rubber stamp for il Douchebag, the COURTS where this will be appealed will be stuffed full of Obama Cultists!

Enjoy your tyranny, America.

24 posted on 11/22/2013 12:36:53 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

It ain’t the earthly institutions that are going to have the last word, unless we choose to let it be thus.

Heavenly institutions DO have the last word.

Just forget for a moment the chaos on earth and put in a call to God again.

We were too proud, we did not want to be saved, either in an earthly or eternal sense. So God gave us our way.

When we finally get tired of the devil’s fruit (lies lies lies) then God will again pop His face into the scene, saying “Miss Me yet?”

If the answer is heartily enough YES, then we will see amazing grace. On earth and in heaven. The bad elements on earth will be more and more thwarted, and eventually reformed to the good.


25 posted on 11/22/2013 12:41:13 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
This pushes the second wave of 100 million cancellations past the election.

I don't think so. The cancellation notices will have to go out by October 1, regardless of the sign-up deadline, in order to provide the required 90 day notice ahead of January 1, 2015 when the old policies have to be cancelled.

You can't outrun a train wreck unless you can step off the tracks, and that's a step that the Obamaites are entirely unwilling to take.

Still, between now and the mid-term elections there will be a continuing and ever growing chorus of folks being denied doctors, access to hospitals, their former providers no longer in their networks, huge deductibles, outrageous premiums, on and on.

The big story over the next year is going to be the enormous number of individuals and families who simply refuse to participate in this fraud, the rise of cash-up-front doctor networks, and the destruction of the insurance companies' risk pools.

Obama and his idiot legions have set the Calder mobile a twitching, and the more they touch it trying to get it to stop, the more it will twitch, jiggle and vibrate. They have truly set off a wave of unintended consequences that will continue unabated for months if not years to come. The scope of the damage this law is going do to individuals and families, to say nothing of the general economy, is monumental, and it's too late to do much of anything about it now, other than for individuals and families to protect themselves by totally opting out until the process has played itself out around 2017.

26 posted on 11/22/2013 12:47:57 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine
Obama and his idiot legions have set the Calder mobile a twitching, and the more they touch it trying to get it to stop, the more it will twitch, jiggle and vibrate.

Awesome analogy.
27 posted on 11/22/2013 1:01:56 AM PST by 867V309 (Obama- he's just crazy enough to do it.)
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To: John Valentine

You don’t think there will be another decree? Maybe push it out another month, maybe abolish the 90 day lead time?

No decrees! Enforce the law.


28 posted on 11/22/2013 1:06:01 AM PST by Ray76
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To: funfan
But what about all the people who have already been kicked off their insurance or their Doctor is no longer available? They have already been adversely affected and in 2014 come Tax day there will be some mad people who will be having to pay not a 95.00 penalty as they were told but 1% of their salary for not having insurance what about those people they will be pissed.

Here's what. Some may say this is not responsible, but I say that I have been doing this for years now.

OPT OUT

I don't subscribe to health insurance. At all. I would like a true catastrophic policy, but that has now been made illegal. But for anything else, I'll take my chances.

What to I get for this? Well, for one thing I get my choice of doctor and hospital. I am not constrained by any "network" or other BS, and I can tell you that doctors are generally more than happy to give me a true and substantial discount in rreturn for being paid on the day of service, in full, without reams of paperwork. Take my word for it, and beyond that I can tell you that internet services linking patients with cash doctors clinics and hospitals already exist and will now grow exponentially.

I also don't worry about annual deductibles or co-pays that sometimes don't kick in until you have spent waaay more than I typically do in a year. An average family could easily pay out $15,000 to $20,000 or more before seeing one cent in insurance reimbursement with many of these junk plans sold on the government fraud site. I hardly ever spend more than a few thousand dollars in a years time.

I'm saving real money, folks, and I suggest that for many reasonably healthy folks, this is the way to go, especially for the next couple years when the penalties for non-participation in the fraud are jack squat.

And by "reasonably healthy" I don't mean totally healthy, I have numerous ailments which require periodic doctor visits and lab work, and also require me to purchase several medications on a regular basis. Still I save THOUSANDS a year.

As I said, I would like a true catastrophic policy, something with a $20,000 annual deductible, a reasonable co-pay, like 80-20 or 90-10, and an annual out of pocket limit of say, $30,000. This is to protect me against an end-of-life event. But, as I said, it is now illegal for an insurance company to offer me such a policy. So I do without.

But that doesn't mean if have to make myself doubly a victim, and I recommend to everyone who reads this to spread the word.

OPT OUT.

29 posted on 11/22/2013 1:08:22 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Ray76

Barack laughs at your advice.

Pay attention folks. God is teaching a lesson here in reaping what one sows. Whether it is quick or long is up to the students.


30 posted on 11/22/2013 1:08:35 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Ray76

I fully expect it will ALL be done by decree. This jerk couldn’t get a law through Congress again if his life depended on it. The entire balance of his rule will be done entirely by illegal decree.

Will Congress stand for it? I don’t see that they have much choice unless something huge happens in November 2014.


31 posted on 11/22/2013 1:11:06 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine

Something went really offkilter when catastrophic insurance was banned. Well, being wimpy and not standing up to this earlier has earned a whole nation a lesson.

I doubt that preaching sanctimoniously on private bulletin boards is going to help anyone. I want to see who is going to march on Washington.


32 posted on 11/22/2013 1:11:33 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: John Valentine

In principle... if enough Democrats get disgusted with this, an impeachment/conviction could happen.


33 posted on 11/22/2013 1:12:25 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: John Valentine

And really, a bunch of Democrats needs a scapegoat desperately now. Why not our dear Big Ears?


34 posted on 11/22/2013 1:13:16 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: 867V309
Awesome analogy.

It is, but I can't take credit for it. I think it was Charles Krauthammer's.

35 posted on 11/22/2013 1:14:24 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine

Thanks for posting.


36 posted on 11/22/2013 1:20:57 AM PST by 867V309 (Obama- he's just crazy enough to do it.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I wasn’t trying to be sanctimonious, I am giving what I think is very practical advice. OPT OUT.

http://www.cashdoctor.com/

http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/11/news/economy/cash-only-doctors/

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/money-talks-obamacare-walks-some-doctors-to-accept-cash-only_102013

This phenomenon is going to explode in 2014, and will it KILL the exchanges.

OPT OUT of Obamacare.


37 posted on 11/22/2013 1:22:08 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Doesn't matter, no one is going to sign up anyway.

It is the insurance cancellations that aren't going to be stopped and that is what is infuriating the American People.

38 posted on 11/22/2013 1:25:49 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: chessplayer

Enough damage will be done to unseat the Democrats.


39 posted on 11/22/2013 1:26:28 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: John Valentine

Others have been sanctimonious — not speaking of you — though as they say in French, something like s’excuse s’accuse.


40 posted on 11/22/2013 1:28:07 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

It’s going to kick their “seats” grandly.

Ah, Dec. It could not happen to a party with a finer history of degrading humanity! Since antebellum times!


41 posted on 11/22/2013 1:29:42 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: John Valentine
Unlike "prosecutorial discretion" which he claimed for refusing to enforce immigration law, he has now gone to issuing decrees which he claims change the law.

Not only is the PPACA not being enforced, he is "changing the law" and encouraging businesses and government agencies - state and federal - to violate law. He is using the bully pulpit to promote criminality.

These decrees are a violation of law, his intimidation of businesses and government agencies, and encouraging others to violate law, are unacceptable. He is a scofflaw.

Impeachment is the remedy.

The lawlessness and chaos must stop.

42 posted on 11/22/2013 1:34:58 AM PST by Ray76
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To: Ray76

Oh it will... the private sector already is saying no dice to these Obama games. There’s a limit to its gullibility and it has been reached.

Still they deserve some of the heat for having gone along with the initial foolishness. What IS it that is getting smoked in these insurance company boardrooms? It has to be far worse than marijuana.


43 posted on 11/22/2013 1:40:55 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Believe me, FRiend, I have been reminding myself CONSTANTLY about God’s sovereignty in these events.

He rules this nation from heaven, and he sees the wickedness happening. I know He will work all of it for His ultimate glory.


44 posted on 11/22/2013 1:44:46 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Act like it, then.

“Enjoy your tyranny, America.”

Not a godly sentiment.

“Escape your tyranny, America.”

Now that is a godly sentiment.


45 posted on 11/22/2013 1:46:16 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: John Valentine
There's another catastrophe on the way.

I think the potential number of new Medicaid enrollees has been seriously underestimated.

ObamaCare planners claim Medicaid will increase by 17 million people over 10 years.

Want to bet, Barack?

Washington state has the best functioning ObamaCare website in the country, we are more prosperous than most states so less Medicaid is needed, and our population is just 2% of the country.

In seven weeks, we have almost 100,000 new Medicaid enrollees!

Extrapolate that to all 50 states, and that would be 5 million new Medicaid enrollees in seven weeks!

And, consider this.

Most people who are willing to go through all the time and effort to sign up for free Medicaid probably have a pre-existing condition that needs treatment.

On January 1, literally millions of new Medicaid enrollees will be calling doctors and trying to get appointments!

That will shut down the whole freaking medical system!

46 posted on 11/22/2013 1:46:18 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Democrats are like puppies.. the tail wags the democrat..
Each democrat is sooo happy... all licks and tail wagging..


47 posted on 11/22/2013 1:50:19 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: John Valentine
John, in case you don't know this already, the “penalty” for not buying an ObamaCare policy is essentially not enforceable.

By 2017, I think it goes up to 2% of your income, so it will become a significant cost.

But - the IRS is specifically forbidden to file a civil or criminal lawsuit against any individual who fails to pay the penalty.

The IRS can only subtract your penalty from a tax refund.

If you can arrange your finances each year so as not to have a refund due, the IRS is helpless.

It cannot garnish your wages, put liens on your property, or put you in jail.

48 posted on 11/22/2013 2:04:14 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Yep, opting out is the only sensible thing to do.

Screw ‘em all.


49 posted on 11/22/2013 2:06:50 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Vince Ferrer

I agree. IIRC, there are Federal Laws that require companies over a certain size to notify the government there will be large layoffs. It would not surprise me that there are also provisions to do that for things like retirements, benefits, etc.

Regardless, if I were an employer and found out I’d have to cancel insurance for employees, I’d tell them as soon as I found out or could reasonably determine it - DEFINITELY before the 2014 elections.


50 posted on 11/22/2013 2:52:00 AM PST by Gaffer
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