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How Reid got votes on nuke option
The Hill ^ | November 22, 2013 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 11/22/2013 3:08:19 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

....Reid clinched support for changing the rules at the weekly Tuesday Senate Democratic caucus lunch.

.....Reid, without mentioning the colleague’s name, told his caucus that one of its senior members who had long opposed filibuster reform, recently had a change of mind and privately urged him to trigger the controversial tactic.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) then rose before the room full of Democrats and identified herself as the recent convert.

“She got up right afterward and said, ‘He was talking about me,’” said a Democratic senator.....

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) did not know if he had the votes to trigger the nuclear option at the start of last week.

A Democratic leadership aide said he had not yet conducted a whip count and an outside liberal group that worked closely with him to advocate for filibuster reform said he was short of the 50 votes needed.

Reid never told his colleagues when he surpassed the mark. He simply called for a vote on the floor. That’s when Democrats knew they were about to enact one of the biggest Senate rules changes in decades.

“I just assumed he would never take it to the floor unless he had the votes. He’s too shrewd a vote counter. He really knows the Senate,” said a Democrat senator.

Several Republican senators tried to patch together a deal in the final hours to avoid the nuclear option.

Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), a well-respected centrist, said Republicans could agree to confirm one of President Obama’s nominees to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals if Democrats agreed to let the other two languish and dropped the threat of the nuclear option, according to a source familiar with the talks.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the Senate GOP’s principal dealmaker this Congress, urged Reid to consider it and other proposals instead of a rules change.

In the end, Reid said he would accept nothing less than confirmation of all three of Obama’s nominees to the D.C. Circuit, the second most powerful court in the nation, which has primary jurisdiction over the Affordable Care Act.

Outside groups had worked for months to persuade Reid to curb the minority party’s power to filibuster nominees. But in the end, Reid worked largely alone. His decision to trigger the nuclear option — so dubbed because it’s viewed as a dramatic escalation of partisan tactics — caught them by surprise.

Two members of the Fix the Senate Now coalition predicted earlier this week that Reid would not try to eliminate the power to filibuster executive and sub-Supreme Court judicial nominees before the end of the year.

Reid clinched support for changing the rules at the weekly Tuesday Senate Democratic caucus lunch.

He opened the meeting with a passionate speech announcing his decision to move ahead with a unilateral change of the filibuster rule. His plan was to overturn a ruling of the presiding chair with a simple majority vote, an aggressive tactic that several senior members of his caucus had long opposed.

After months of Republican obstruction, which culminated in the shutdown of the federal government in October, even longtime skeptics of a sudden rules change were finally ready to curb the minority party’s power to delay.

“Harry made an impassioned plea,” said a Democratic lawmaker, who described Reid’s remarks as similar to what he delivered on the Senate floor Thursday. “He said this is where we’re headed.”

Speaking on the floor shortly before the momentous vote, Reid declared Thursday: “The American people believe Congress is broken. The American people believe the Senate is broken. And I believe the American people are right.”

Reid, without mentioning the colleague’s name, told his caucus that one of its senior members who had long opposed filibuster reform, recently had a change of mind and privately urged him to trigger the controversial tactic.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) then rose before the room full of Democrats and identified herself as the recent convert.

“She got up right afterward and said, ‘He was talking about me,’” said a Democratic senator.

Feinstein said she was dismayed that the informal agreement Senate Republicans and Democrats struck on nominees during a rare joint meeting in the Old Senate Chamber in July had quickly disintegrated.

“I spent three hours in the Old Senate Chamber with both parties. And I listened to the discourse, which was amiable,” she told reporters that day. “And we left, and I think we all felt good. And it lasted maybe one week or two weeks.”

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) also delivered a pivotal speech at the meeting, urging colleagues in his gravely baritone to set aside their concerns and follow Reid.

“Patrick just said, ‘I think it’s time we do this, I’m going to follow the leader,’” said a lawmaker who attended the meeting.

The lawmaker said Reid galvanized support when he made it clear to his colleagues that he had made a decision and was going to move forward.

“I don’t think we did [have the votes],” said the source. “Until he really pushes and he says, ‘I’m going to do this,’ and goes to individual senators, people are on the fence.”

Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.), the chairman of the Armed Services Committee, made a last-ditch effort to divert Reid by proposing that Democrats hold another meeting with Republicans in the Old Senate Chamber, said two sources familiar with the meeting.

Too many Democrats had lost their patience with repeated Republican filibusters and roundly dismissed Levin’s proposal.

“That would have just been more window dressing,” said a Democratic source.

Levin told The Hill Thursday he dies not remember making such a suggestion at the private meeting.

“But I think it would have been a good idea,” he said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: federaljudges; filibuster; harryreid; nuclearoption; obamacare; packappealscourt; senate
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1 posted on 11/22/2013 3:08:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It's a distraction from the failure of Obamacare.

Obama could have always recess appointed these judges but it wouldn't have made the headlines the way Reid did it.

2 posted on 11/22/2013 3:18:49 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Well said.


3 posted on 11/22/2013 3:20:51 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Is there not a quorum rule, then? If so, every “R” should refuse to show his face during such votes, Wisconsin-Style.


4 posted on 11/22/2013 3:21:43 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Another step closer to the end of our nation.


5 posted on 11/22/2013 3:29:52 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It seems that the purpose of going nuclear is to put 3 people on the court of appeals in DC, which would in turn protect ObamaCare.

It's interesting that 10 democrats, who are in danger of losing their seats next year because of their support of ObamaCare in the first place! voted to support a fascist move to protect ObamaCare.

How will they explain that to their constituents?

6 posted on 11/22/2013 3:32:25 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Reid is one of the sleaziest turds on the planet.
I would love to take a base ball bat to his turd face head.
His voice even sounds like a TURD.
7 posted on 11/22/2013 3:33:43 AM PST by DeaconRed (I am so sick of this administration trashing our constitution. The have to GO ! ! ! NOW! ! !)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

...the race card wasn’t working.....it’s a wonder Hillary didn’t show up and faint with an unknown and undetected concussion


8 posted on 11/22/2013 3:33:46 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is Reid’s attempt to create a prophylactic against Articles of Impeachment against Holder & Obama by packing the DC Court. If holder is impeached, will he bring down Obozo? Jail time for Holder? Would that change his loyalty?


9 posted on 11/22/2013 3:33:59 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: fwdude
Is there not a quorum rule, then? If so, every “R” should refuse to show his face during such votes, Wisconsin-Style.

The Nucular Option passed with 51 votes. The Senate Quorum requirement is - wait for it - 51.

10 posted on 11/22/2013 3:39:52 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Cowboy Bob

They won’t. I think the ten have gone through the numbers and realize that it’s a lost cause. They are all going to give the administration the medicine it needed....a complete Republican-majority in the Senate, and House. They will sit back and be entertained by this administration in a zero-accomplishment two-year period. No one in the Senate believes the mess anymore.


11 posted on 11/22/2013 3:43:16 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Answer: bribery and blackmail, as always.


12 posted on 11/22/2013 3:46:44 AM PST by Old Yeller (Obama: A dark spot in this country's history.)
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To: tobyhill

It took lies:

“................Some see these nominees as an effort to pack the court after a series of decisions Obama did not like.

The issue was similar last July when Reid and company convinced the Republicans to capitulate on President Obama’s terrible nominees to the National Labor Relations Board. In tricking the Republicans into approving numerous nominees the Democrats promised they were “not touching judges.”

Harry Reid (D-NV): “We’re not touching judges. That’s what they were talking about. This is not judges.” (NBC’s “Meet The Press,” 7/14/13)

Reid didn’t stop there. He made a similar promise at a Press briefing:

Harry Reid (D-NV): “We’re not talking about changing the filibuster rules that relates to nominations for judges. …this is not about judges.” (Sen. Reid, Press Briefing, 7/11/13)

Reid wasn’t alone in making such representations. Senators Sherrod Brown and Amy Klobuchar also offered similar assurances:

Sherrod Brown (D-OH): “…I think any president should have the ability to put people in place for the — at the pleasure of the president. These are not judges. That’s a whole another issue.” (MSNBC, 7/9/13)

Amy Klobuchar (D-MN): “…I don’t understand why for these nominees, I’m not talking about judges here, I’m talking about the president’s team, of which there are currently over 180 people that are just pending right now before the Senate for the Executive Office nominations. Why we can’t just do 51 votes is beyond me.” (ABC’s “This Week,” 7/14/13)......

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3094125/posts?page=1


13 posted on 11/22/2013 3:47:39 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Old Yeller

California has a track record of using the court to overturn elections.


14 posted on 11/22/2013 3:48:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It should be noted that Gang of Fourteen member Mary Landrieu voted to do away with cloture on judicial nominees which is a reversal of her agreement. If there is one Senator (besides Graham) that needs to be kicked out in the next election, it is her.


15 posted on 11/22/2013 3:49:15 AM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Cowboy Bob; All

“...As Majority Leader Harry Reid orchestrated the change in the rules governing executive nominations and lower-court appointments, his opponents cried tyranny, though they also promised that when they took power they would go further, applying the new standard to Supreme Court nominations. In other words, tyranny—but we promise we’ll give you more of it. The new rules fit with that kind of Senate.

...Whoever is ultimately at fault for the rule change—the Democrats who forced it or the Republicans who blocked the nominations requiring the new rules—the result is that the minority will have less power. That means elections will matter even more than they did before. Every Republican campaign now has more incentive to fight harder to win the six seats needed to take back the Senate in the 2014 election. Presidential elections now mean more, too. Reid’s move will secure Obama’s legacy because the new nominees to the appeals court will be in a position to protect his achievements. Moderate senators will hold more power. Democratic Sens. Mark Pryor and Joe Manchin voted against the rule change. In the future, in a closely divided Senate, they are the kind of senators who will be the key vote to give or deny the majority their nominee. Sen. Carl Levin, a Democrat, also voted against the new rules, but he’s retiring, making way for another rookie. If the rookie is a Republican, one of his or her first tasks may be changing the rules again.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3094239/posts


16 posted on 11/22/2013 3:49:18 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: DeaconRed

Rush Limbaugh - November 21, 2013:

RUSH: I have a brief question for Senator McCain, Senator Susan Collins, and the rest. How is that “working across the aisle” thing working out for you now with this nuclear option thing? You stuck your hand out across the aisle to shake hands with ‘em, and now you gotta somehow reach around and take a knife outta your back.


17 posted on 11/22/2013 3:49:53 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Hoodat; All
The Healthcare "law" must be protected by the libs at ALL costs. The Left has been working decades to get this control.

Cruz: Dems want to pack court with judges to protect O-Care

"Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), the Senate’s leading critic of the Affordable Care Act, denounced a vote Thursday to prohibit filibusters against appellate court nominees as a scheme to save the health law.

“The heart of this action is directed at packing the D.C. Circuit because that is the court that will review the lawless behavior of the Obama administration implementing ObamaCare,” he said.

“President Obama and the administration refuse to follow the plain text of the law, and the D.C. Circuit is the court of appeals that has been holding the administration accountable."

Cruz said the rule change, which passed Thursday with 50 Democratic votes, “was designed to pack that court with judges that they believe will be a rubber stamp.”

The vote to pass the rules change was 52-48, with the two independents, Sens. Angus King (Maine) and Bernie sanders (Vt.), voting with the Democrats and three Democrats voting against the change.

The addition of three Democratic-appointed judges to the 11-seat court will shift its ideological balance, which had been tilted to the right. This could have significant implications for the new healthcare law because the court has primary jurisdiction over many federal regulatory matters.........."

18 posted on 11/22/2013 3:52:53 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Erik Latranyi
Harry Reid in conference before bringing to the floor and "taking the vote ..


19 posted on 11/22/2013 4:01:35 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

“............As Jamie Glazov, a student of the left, has observed in an article about the middle-class defenders of recently captured Seventies terrorist Kathy Soliah: “if you can successfully camouflage your own pathology and hatred with a concern for the ‘poor’ and the ‘downtrodden,’ then there will always be a ‘progressive’ milieu to support and defend you.” Huey Newton, George Jackson, Angela Davis, Bernardine Dorhn, Sylvia Baraldini, Rubin “Hurricane” Carter, Mumia Abu Jamal, H. Rap Brown, Rigoberta Menchu and innumerable others have all discovered this principle in the course of their criminal careers....

...But they are lying. When they defend racial preferences now, for example, a principle they denounced as “racist” and fought against as “civil rights” activists then, even they must know it.

The first truth about leftist missionaries, about believing progressives, is that they are liars. But they are not liars in the ordinary way, which is to say by choice. They are liars by necessity, and often, therefore, without realizing that they are. The necessity for lying arises because it is the political lie that gives their cause its life. ...

...If you believed that others could understand your truth, you would not think of yourself as part of a “vanguard.” You would no longer inhabit the morally charmed world of an elite whose members alone can see the light and whose mission is to lead the unenlightened towards it. If everybody could see the same horizon and knew the path to reach it, the future would already have happened and there would be no need for the army of the saints.

That is both the ethical core and psychological heart of what it means to be a part of the left. That is where the gratification comes from. To see yourself as a redeemer. To feel anointed. To be among the elect. In other words: To be progressive is itself the most satisfying narcissism of all.

That is why it is of little concern to them that their socialist schemes have run aground, burying millions of human beings in the process. That is why they don’t care that their panaceas have caused more human suffering than any injustice they have ever challenged. That is why they never learn from their “mistakes,” why the continuance of Them is more important than any truth.

If you were active in the so-called “peace” movement or in the radical wing of the civil rights causes, why would you tell the truth? Why would you concede – even long afterwards — that no, you were never really a “peace activist,” except in the sense that you were against America’s war. Why would you draw attention to the fact that you didn’t oppose the Communists’ war, and were happy when America’s enemies won?

What you were really against was not war, but American “imperialism” and American capitalism. What you truly hated was America’s democracy, which you knew to be a “sham” because it was controlled by money in the end. That’s why you wanted to “Bring The Troops Home.” Because if America’s troops came home, America would lose and the Communists would win. And the progressive future would be another step closer.

But you never had the honesty – then or now — to admit that. You told the lie then to gain influence and increase your power to do good (as only the Chosen can). And you keep on telling the lie for the same reason.

Why would you admit that, despite your tactical support for civil rights, you weren’t really committed to civil rights as Americans understand the meaning of the term – as rights granted not to groups but to individuals, not by government but “by their Creator”)? What you really wanted was to overthrow the very Constitution that guaranteed those rights, based as it is on private property and the autonomous person – both of which you despise.

Since America is a democracy and the people endorse it, the left’s “progressive” agendas can only be achieved by lying to the people. The unenlightened must be kept ignorant until the revolution transforms them. The better world is only reachable through deception of the people who need to be saved............” - David Horowitz

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/Progressive%20Narcissism.htm


20 posted on 11/22/2013 4:02:05 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“In the end, Reid said he would accept nothing less than confirmation of all three of Obama’s nominees to the D.C. Circuit, the second most powerful court in the nation, which has primary jurisdiction over the Affordable Care Act.’

In the spirit of compromise, of course.

The dhimmicraps, under the leadership of Reid the Feckless, have positioned themselves as the petulant toddlers in FedGov. Of course, they only have to intimidate the pubbies in order to get their own way...again.

Time to flush the commode that is DC.


21 posted on 11/22/2013 4:03:38 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Whatever. How about declare that 30% of the vote is good enough and go along with it.

This is a dictatorship they want obviously.


22 posted on 11/22/2013 4:09:36 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: PubliusMM

Reid and their demands. These people are crazy. They walk and vote blindfolded without a care, litteraly defecating the country down the toilet.


23 posted on 11/22/2013 4:10:50 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: tobyhill

Recess appointments don’t last a lifetime.

This is big.


24 posted on 11/22/2013 4:11:30 AM PST by Laslo Fripp (The Sybil of Free Republic)
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To: Yo-Yo
The Nucular Option passed with 51 votes. The Senate Quorum requirement is - wait for it - 51.

Thank you. I've wondered.
25 posted on 11/22/2013 4:11:59 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: lavaroise
This is a dictatorship they want obviously.

And the media is whooping and cheering Reid it on, and in a disgusting display of hypocrisy, simultaneously warning Republicans that they should put the supermajority rule back in if they take the senate in 2014.

26 posted on 11/22/2013 4:23:11 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), a well-respected centrist

She's neither

In the end, Reid said he would accept nothing less than confirmation of all three of Obama’s nominees to the D.C. Circuit, the second most powerful court in the nation, which has primary jurisdiction over the Affordable Care Act.

And here's the real end game. Somebody on this board said it yesterday. Here's to you, unidentified FReeper. It really was about making sure that all of 0bama's illegal and unpopular decrees stand.

27 posted on 11/22/2013 4:38:41 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether the majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is really gonna tick-off the precious Moderates.


28 posted on 11/22/2013 5:05:35 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Pathetic inside the Beltway drivel. I am not intrigued, I am only disgusted. The level of hypocricy is off the charts


29 posted on 11/22/2013 5:08:43 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Hardastarboard
It really was about making sure that all of 0bama's illegal and unpopular decrees stand.

"...Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, said he didn’t fear retaliation. He said he reached a tipping point after Republicans filibustered three of Mr. Obama’s nominees to serve on the federal appeals court in Washington, which is considered the second most important court in the country because it hears cases involving key federal agencies." ..... -- Democrats end Senate tradition, trigger ‘nuclear option’ to ram through Obama’s judicial nominees

30 posted on 11/22/2013 5:08:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Hardastarboard

All the more reason EVERY conservative needs to work to defeat and remove the demodummies from the senate and congress as each one of them are evil parisite control freaks. There has to be a way to resolve their pathetic ways of destroying this nation short of an all out civil war.


31 posted on 11/22/2013 5:12:20 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If the GOP manages to gain control of House, Senate and White House, they need to pass legislation that permits them to remove/replace activist federal judges who are ‘overboard’ to either the right or left.

Should be some attention given to SCOTUS judges’ terms, too, if they consistantly demonstrate by decisions that they are not abiding by the Constitution, but are biased.


32 posted on 11/22/2013 5:15:22 AM PST by octex
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What goes round comes around. If the pubbies get their acts together and get a spine they may be able to turn the tables on the RATS next November. They have to drive hard re. Obamcare and let the red state constituents with RAT senators know the kind of left wing judges that are being approved.


33 posted on 11/22/2013 5:15:47 AM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: kenmcg

-——comes around-—

The goal is no comes around.

If there is a comes around, with the destruction now being rendered, the comes around will be ineffective


34 posted on 11/22/2013 5:18:19 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: kenmcg

Well, I have an even larger concern than left-wing liberal judges being appointed. What happens if he appoints Muslims into enough judicial roles that they can “declare” Sharia law is the new law of the land?


35 posted on 11/22/2013 5:28:27 AM PST by KenD
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The House owns the REAL nuclear option - they can defund any court they choose to defund.
How's THAT for a nuclear option?
36 posted on 11/22/2013 5:35:25 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73

“........ For now, with legislative progress in the House all but doomed by Republican opposition, officials said the president could at least get a full team in place so that he can move forward with executive action, when possible, when Republicans block his agenda in Congress.

That’s what Republicans fear.

“This is nothing more than a power grab in order to try to advance the Obama administration’s regulatory agenda,” Mr. McConnell said.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/22/us/politics/a-move-years-in-the-making-with-lasting-ramifications.html?_r=0&pagewanted=all


37 posted on 11/22/2013 5:40:17 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Resettozero

You’d think that I’d be able to spell “Nuclear,” but that darn Public Edumication still haunts me.


38 posted on 11/22/2013 5:48:13 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Will packing the DC court also shield Holder from crimes (lying to Congress, Fast and Furious) and shield 0bama for his many crimes and forgeries?


39 posted on 11/22/2013 5:49:08 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Elections always mattered. The GOP has squandered too many, starting with that Minnesota Clown.


40 posted on 11/22/2013 5:51:13 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Steven Tyler

“Will packing the DC court also shield Holder from crimes (lying to Congress, Fast and Furious) and shield 0bama for his many crimes and forgeries?”

Only if the courts matter. Pack the house and senate with enough patriots, and the courts can be relegated to their traditional subservient roll as foppish advisors. There’s also the option of impeaching and removing fascist and communist judges. Indict, try and hang a few for sedition and treason will do wonders for our constitutional republic. That action will get the commies heading for the tall grass to hide. Those who remain visible can be given one-way tickets to the socialist paradise of North Korea.


41 posted on 11/22/2013 6:12:51 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Psalm 73

I agree they have the power to limit the courts jurisdiction on issues,when have you ever seen them do that? Boner is really going to do that? Now that would be historic


42 posted on 11/22/2013 6:25:36 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Erik Latranyi

.....and tyranny.


43 posted on 11/22/2013 6:29:25 AM PST by matginzac
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To: fwdude

“Is there not a quorum rule, then? If so, every “R” should refuse to show his face during such votes, Wisconsin-Style.”

As I understand it, there is not a quorum rule that requires at least one vote from the opposing party, as with some committees and other legislative bodies.


44 posted on 11/22/2013 6:30:09 AM PST by Tandem (What ever happened to personal responsibility & self-reliance?)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Will their GOPe opponents even bring it up?


45 posted on 11/22/2013 6:30:29 AM PST by matginzac
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“”The American people believe the Senate is broken. And I believe the American people are right.””

You’re absolutely right, Harry. WE American people are right and we think you and your political party are the lowest form of humanity.


46 posted on 11/22/2013 6:32:38 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: tobyhill

The problem is that now these Senators running for re-election have to go on the record for these appointments. No appt will shine. But the scandalous ones will dog them.


47 posted on 11/22/2013 6:33:07 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: ballplayer

This was done to get judges appointed who will stop all these court cases working their way through the courts that could kill Obamacare,especially the ones that say that subsidies cannot be given in states that the federal government set up the exchanges. No one read the bill and it says the subsidies can only be given in exchanges that the state’s set up,so the IRS just decided on their own to say that all states with exchanges can pay subsidies,because that was the intent of the law,even though the law explicitly says the opposite,there are I believe at least 4 cases in court challenging this and Obama will now be able to stack the courts to take care of that little problem.
Oh well as they say elections have consequences


48 posted on 11/22/2013 6:34:26 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: sergeantdave

“”There’s also the option of impeaching and removing fascist and communist judges.””

Not just judges. How do we get another House committee investigation on Un-American activities? The below fits every stinking democrat in power today including the administration. It’s obvious the House Judiciary Committee isn’t up to weeding these traitors out so let’s go back to the Un-American Activities committee. Why is it acceptable now in our country to ignore the aim of these people? No one investigated by HUAC did as much damage to the country as these people are doing now.

“”The House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC) was an investigative committee of the United States House of Representatives. It was created in 1938 to investigate alleged disloyalty and subversive activities on the part of private citizens, public employees, and those organizations suspected of having Communist ties. In 1969, the House changed the committee’s name to “House Committee on Internal Security”. When the House abolished the committee in 1975,[1] its functions were transferred to the House Judiciary Committee””


49 posted on 11/22/2013 6:41:18 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: ballplayer

they don’t call it the stupid party for no reason.

this seems more about protecting the country club from conservatives.

The rinos no longer need conservatives to break a filibuster.

This is all about the rino agenda.

notice mccain is MIA.

graham is MIA.

all the other rinos are MIA.


50 posted on 11/22/2013 6:43:51 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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