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Older Hill aides shocked by Obamacare prices (Welcome to the real world under Obamacare)
politico ^ | 11/22/2013 | By JONATHAN ALLEN and JENNIFER HABERKORN

Posted on 11/22/2013 6:55:05 AM PST by tobyhill

Veteran House Democratic aides are sick over the insurance prices they’ll pay under Obamacare, and they’re scrambling to find a cure.

“In a shock to the system, the older staff in my office (folks over 59) have now found out their personal health insurance costs (even with the government contribution) have gone up 3-4 times what they were paying before,” Minh Ta, chief of staff to Rep. Gwen Moore (D-Wis.), wrote to fellow Democratic chiefs of staff in an email message obtained by POLITICO. “Simply unacceptable.”

In the email, Ta noted that older congressional staffs may leave their jobs because of the change to their health insurance.

Under the Affordable Care Act, and federal regulations, many congressional staffers — designated as “official” aides — were forced to move out of the old heavily subsidized Federal Employees Health Benefits program and into the District of Columbia’s health insurance marketplace exchange. Others designated as “unofficial” were allowed to stay in the FEHB program. Managers had to choose whether aides were “official” or “unofficial” by Oct. 31, and Ta said that wasn’t enough time to make an informed decision about who would benefit and who would lose out by going into the new system.

Moore’s office was one of those in which all staff were designated as “official” and pushed into the exchanges. That ended up being a problem for older staff, who weren’t accustomed to paying higher premiums because of their age.

But age is one of the few factors insurers can use to adjust prices under Obamacare — and older people will often pay much more than younger people.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: dumberthanarock; gwenmoore; obamacare
"Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive"
1 posted on 11/22/2013 6:55:05 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Let the parasites quit. Let them find out what it means to live in the real world.


2 posted on 11/22/2013 6:56:49 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: tobyhill

I went rummaging in the sympathy box but all I could find was “Rot in Hell!”


3 posted on 11/22/2013 6:58:14 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: tobyhill

What can be done for these poor people? It’s just not fair.


4 posted on 11/22/2013 6:59:24 AM PST by centurion316
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To: tobyhill

Do not turn your back on the emperor, but turn and salute him and say.......


5 posted on 11/22/2013 7:03:05 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: tobyhill
...older people will often pay much more than younger people.

Now consider how much Obamacare already limits the true expenses on older people and pushes those costs onto the young. I heard (sorry, don't have the citation) that the maximum insurance price for age is limited to three times the minimum, while actual costs for old people's medical care is closer to ten times young adults' costs. I would be interested in finding out what age is the crossover point between being subsidized and overpaying for Obamacare.

For instance, the premiums for gold-level Aetna HMO plans in D.C. cost an average of $684.40 per month for a 55-year-old. A similar plan would cost an average of $287.11 for a 27-year-old. The gold-level CareFirst HMO plans have an average premium of $573.07 for a 55-year-old — more than double the $240.41 average for 27-year-olds. That’s before the federal employee contribution toward the premium.

Actually that's not horrifying. Between me and my employer, my insurance is just over $400 per month and I'm in my late forties.

6 posted on 11/22/2013 7:03:27 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: tobyhill; Bender2

7 posted on 11/22/2013 7:06:05 AM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: tobyhill

It is probably a good retirement plan for him.


8 posted on 11/22/2013 7:06:57 AM PST by OldEagle
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To: tobyhill

It’s not complicated. This is socialized medicine. The scheme is funded by forcing people to pay for a bunch of stuff they don’t need.


9 posted on 11/22/2013 7:07:03 AM PST by lodi90
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To: lodi90

One of my employees is a US citizen from China. She said the joke in China is that America is more socialist than China.


10 posted on 11/22/2013 7:09:11 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Paine in the Neck

“I went rummaging in the sympathy box but all I could find was “Rot in Hell!”

I also did the same thing....this time I found a small violin.


11 posted on 11/22/2013 7:10:23 AM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: tobyhill
Ta emphasized that “employees are not dissatisfied with the Affordable Care Act” and that some younger staffers have seen their premiums fall.

Then why complain? They're getting just what they want.

12 posted on 11/22/2013 7:11:02 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: HarleyD

Is THIS when they first realized that Obamacare
DOESN’T mean

“free healthcare on demand”?


13 posted on 11/22/2013 7:11:36 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: tobyhill

Democrats are just not a very bright bunch of people.

14 posted on 11/22/2013 7:13:10 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: tobyhill

You don’t think the insurance companies cut this deal with Obama expecting to lose money, did you?


15 posted on 11/22/2013 7:16:40 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: tobyhill

Someone please post a picture of Nelson saying “HA ha!”


16 posted on 11/22/2013 7:26:20 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: tobyhill

Related article for younger 0bummer voters:

“Maybe Pain Will Teach You Millenials Not To Vote For Your Own Serfdom”

http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2013/11/04/maybe-pain-will-teach-you-millenials-not-to-vote-for-your-own-serfdom-n1733722


17 posted on 11/22/2013 7:42:30 AM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: tobyhill

Burn baby, burn.


18 posted on 11/22/2013 7:52:36 AM PST by Flick Lives (The U.S. is dead to me.)
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To: tobyhill

Headline:

“Shocked! Congressional Aids Find Out They’re Just Peasants Like The Rest of Us”


19 posted on 11/22/2013 7:56:06 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: carriage_hill

A few detracting meanderings...but otherwise pretty good.


20 posted on 11/22/2013 8:40:59 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Wolfie

Exactly, Wolfie. Just look at who really benefits from obamacare: insurance companies and the usual suspects: the lawyers, who will enjoy years, perhaps decades, of healthcare lawsuits.

People getting bleeped.


21 posted on 11/22/2013 9:02:40 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: tobyhill

They’ll pay under Obamacare, and they’re scrambling to find a cure.

Eagle hints mouse guess who wins.


22 posted on 11/22/2013 9:18:05 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Gwen Moore ping!


23 posted on 11/22/2013 2:26:47 PM PST by Jean S
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To: tobyhill

That is why you will all be out of jobs come Jan 2015


24 posted on 11/22/2013 3:14:51 PM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: tobyhill

Oh cry me a river...... friggin morons.


25 posted on 11/22/2013 3:25:48 PM PST by A Voice (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: carriage_hill

Damn, that was a fine read.


26 posted on 11/22/2013 4:09:26 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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Less than $8.2k to go!

We're on the homestretch!!
Let's git 'er done!!!!

27 posted on 11/22/2013 4:28:06 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: tobyhill

[Ta noted that older congressional staffs may leave their jobs because of the change to their health insurance.]

Time again for the huge manatee.


28 posted on 11/22/2013 6:30:49 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: tobyhill

They need to be angry at the Dem they work for who voted for ObamaCare.


29 posted on 11/22/2013 7:18:55 PM PST by matt04
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To: Jean S; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; ...

Thanks Jean. Gwen Moore, Milwaukee Rep) mentioned in this article. Her staff can’t afford Obamacare.

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


30 posted on 11/23/2013 2:37:54 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Jean S

“In the email, Ta noted that older congressional staffs may leave their jobs because of the change to their health insurance.”

Well, that’s SOME consolation for all of this 0bamacare stupidity!

However, they’ll just switch to Medicare and we’re STILL on the hook for these lifers!


31 posted on 11/23/2013 6:36:24 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: tobyhill

32 posted on 11/23/2013 6:41:53 AM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: tobyhill

Hey, but after the first 500, any additional condoms are covered!


33 posted on 11/23/2013 6:42:17 AM PST by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: tobyhill

Exactly.


34 posted on 11/23/2013 7:19:25 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: tobyhill

“In the email, Ta noted that older congressional staffs may leave their jobs because of the change to their health insurance. “

My heart bleeds. they’ll have to make a go of it in the private sector now.


35 posted on 11/23/2013 8:04:12 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: tobyhill

It doesn’t matter. These idiots will still blame it on the Republicans and the ‘insurance companies’. Just watch. They really are mindless.


36 posted on 11/23/2013 3:00:08 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: tobyhill

How dang stupid can one be not to know what socialism does to economies and freedom? Older aides? Senile aides like Senator McStupid? Are they foreigners? We may be better off putting three year olds in power. They have yet to be brainwashed by the politically correct socialist citizens of the world.


37 posted on 11/23/2013 5:14:28 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: tobyhill
To put this report in a proper perspective:

1. Yes, "official" Congressional aides are subject to Obamacare.

2. However, Obama's OMB is subsidizing their healthcare costs to the tune of 75%.

3. Yet, the prices for comparable coverage are 3-to-4 times what their previous plan cost.

Only two conclusions are possible:

First, the so-called Obamacare "Gold" plans must be extraordinarily expensive if they are still 3-to-4 times more expensive after a 75% subsidy.

Or, second, their previous government plan must've been ridiculously inexpensive for it to be 1/3 to 1/4 the cost after a 75% subsidy.

In either event, it's difficult to work up a lot of sympathy for these flunkies.

38 posted on 11/23/2013 5:46:35 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: KarlInOhio

Agreed. In Massachusetts, the overall cost (employee & employer) of a family plan for municipal governments runs $24K a year, and rising. The rest of the nation should brace themselves.


39 posted on 11/24/2013 3:40:41 AM PST by MSF BU (n)
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