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America has gone from government of laws to semi-political banana republic
Fox News ^ | November 21, 2013 | Patrick Caddell

Posted on 11/22/2013 10:36:17 AM PST by yoe

The rule of law has been replaced in Washington by "yes we can." The events we witnessed Thursday in the Senate, that is Majority Leader Harry Reid's success at invoking the so-called 'nuclear option,' stripping the minority party of its primary power to block nominations, have become a stunning capstone to what has been already a steady erosion of a government of laws down to a sort of semi-political banana republic.

We are now living in a republic in which politicians do what they want without regard to tradition or the best interests of our country.

The rule of more than 200 years since the Senate was formed, as described by James Madison, to be "...the saucer of the hot cup of the House" has been overthrown.

[snip] The most recent and jarring example is the Affordable Care Act where the president has, despite the actual language of the law, assumed powers to exempt people, to change the meaning of the law. Of actual legislative statue.

In a way that is stunning. Indeed, the most egregious was the Democratic and Republican leaders coming together to agree to ignore the language in the Affordable Care Act legislation and grant themselves and their staffs a special subsidy. Sadly, this is something very few people have bothered to speak out against.

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Third World-ism isn't just Obama's culture/race, it is his upbringing...communist and socialist fathers and mother. Harry Reid has no excuse except he is a crook and Pelosi is paddling the air on her way to total insanity. America has been bamboozled and defeated by the Politically Correct and the Socialist/Communist...
1 posted on 11/22/2013 10:36:17 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe

Third Reich comes to mind.


2 posted on 11/22/2013 10:37:22 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I agree. America’s been “Weimar” for a few years now. We’ve gone overboard now. Yesterday was America’s “Reichstag Fire” moment, IMO.


3 posted on 11/22/2013 10:39:26 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: yoe

Caddell further cementing his position as the Last Sane Democrat.


4 posted on 11/22/2013 10:40:59 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: yoe

I don’t get the qualifier ‘semi-political’.


5 posted on 11/22/2013 10:41:43 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: yoe
To all Democrats:

"The God who gave us life, gave us liberty also: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them." - Thomas Jefferson

Remember that bold statement as representing the underlying, and essential, principle of America's Declaration of Independence!

Then, as you think about John F. Kennedy today, remember these words from him:

“The same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe, the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God.” - (John F. Kennedy - 1961 Inaugural)

Pat, when, and how, did your Party's leadership wander so far away from that essential, underlying principle of liberty?

6 posted on 11/22/2013 10:41:48 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: yoe

Patrick Caddell. The last principled democrat on earth?


7 posted on 11/22/2013 10:43:19 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: yoe

Pat Caddell has almost made up for giving us Carter.

The truth of the matter is the legislative branch is now irrelevant. That fundamental change obama promised has arrived. I still can’t understand how he has so many people on his side. Even if it’s NSA blackkmail it would mean thousands of people helping him. It has to be evil plain and simple.


8 posted on 11/22/2013 10:43:34 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: yoe
Time for a Con Con.

The Rat idiots have no boundaries on either their tyranny or their will to control.

They will abide by nothing less than that legal remedy, and they may even disregard that, leaving only one option.

9 posted on 11/22/2013 10:43:51 AM PST by caddie
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To: yoe

Let me remind you that we here on FR have know this for a LONG TIME.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2173300/posts

See Post #23:

“Welcome to New Kenya”

“Where the law of the jungle has replace the Law of the Land”

23 posted on Wed 28 Jan 2009 06:42:31 AM CST by Texas Fossil


10 posted on 11/22/2013 10:45:09 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: yoe
"America has been bamboozled and defeated by the Politically Correct, the insane, and the Socialist/Communist...

Agree with a small addition to your listing of characteristics redundant as it may seem.

11 posted on 11/22/2013 10:45:54 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: yoe

I am trying hard to find where the founds required 60 votes. I really am. We wanted the Republicans to do this when they had the Senate and were pissed off when McCain caused the Republicans to chicken out.


12 posted on 11/22/2013 10:50:12 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: yoe

Yes, we can be a Marxist tyranny!


13 posted on 11/22/2013 10:50:31 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: yoe

WE HAVE PASSED THE POINT. WE ARE A COMMUNISTS RULED NATION.


14 posted on 11/22/2013 10:50:39 AM PST by Logical me
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To: yoe
RE :”The rule of law has been replaced in Washington by “yes we can.” The events we witnessed Thursday in the Senate, that is Majority Leader Harry Reid's success at invoking the so-called ‘nuclear option,’ stripping the minority party of its primary power to block nominations, have become a stunning capstone to what has been already a steady erosion of a government of laws down to a sort of semi-political banana republic.”

Come on Pat, there is no law that says the Senate must honor a filibuster. Its a tradition not law.
Each house makes it own rules, controlled by majority.

Power grab yes, illegal no

15 posted on 11/22/2013 10:51:42 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Logical me

You know.... when the have nots figured out they could vote to take money away from the haves.... its been over since then. And really, while we love our constitution and the brilliance of the forefathers. Like most legal documents, it wasn’t perfect. And we’re seeing that play out.


16 posted on 11/22/2013 10:52:20 AM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: yoe
Harry Reid's heavy-handed and anti-Constitutional action yesterday bears close scrutiny by all, Democrats, Republicans and all, who treasure individual liberty for themselves and future generations.

America's Constitution set the rules and limits for such power-thirsty individuals who might combine with others of their stripe to undermine "the People's" Constitution.

Below are the words of James Madison:

"Of the Declaration of Rights by the Assembly of France, Madison said:

"While the Declaration of Rights was before the National Assembly some of its members remarked that if a declaration of rights were published it should be accompanied by a Declaration of Duties. The observation discovered a mind that reflected, and it only erred by not reflecting far enough. A Declaration of Rights is, by reciprocity, a Declaration of Duties also. Whatever is my right as a man is also the right of another; and it becomes my duty to guarantee as well as to possess.

"The three first articles are the base of Liberty, as well individual as national; nor can any country be called free whose government does not take its beginning from the principles they contain, and continue to preserve them pure; and the whole of the Declaration of Rights is of more value to the world, and will do more good, than all the laws and statutes that have yet been promulgated.

"As it was impossible to separate the military events which took place in America from the principles of the American Revolution, the publication of those events in France necessarily connected themselves with the principles which produced them. Many of the facts were in themselves principles; such as the declaration of American Independence,

"However true, therefore, it may be, that the judicial department, is, in all questions submitted to it by the forms of the Constitution, to decide in the last resort, this resort must necessarily be deemed the last in relation to the authorities of the other departments of the government; not in relation to the rights of the parties to the constitutional compact, from which the judicial as well as the other departments hold their delegated trusts. On any other hypothesis, the delegation of judicial power would annul the authority delegating it; and the concurrence of this department with the others in usurped powers, might subvert for ever, and beyond the possible reach of any rightful remedy, the very Constitution which all were instituted to preserve.

"The truth declared in the resolution being established, the expediency of making the declaration at the present day, may safely be left to the temperate consideration and candid judgment of the American public. It will be remembered that a frequent recurrence to fundamental principles, is solemnly enjoined by most of the state constitutions, and particularly by our own, as a necessary safeguard against the danger of degeneracy to which republics are liable, as well as other governments, though in a less degree than others. And a fair comparison of the political doctrines not unfrequent at the present day, with those which characterized the epoch of our revolution, and which form the basis of our republican constitutions, will best determine whether the declaratory recurrence here made to those principles, ought to be viewed as unseasonable and improper, or as a vigilant discharge of an important duty. The authority of constitutions over governments, and of the sovereignty of the people over constitutions, are truths which are at all times necessary to be kept in mind; and at no time perhaps more necessary than at the present."

- James Madison
17 posted on 11/22/2013 10:52:37 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: yoe

So our nation has been hanging by a thread for 200 years by “a rule”?


18 posted on 11/22/2013 10:54:05 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: kjam22

bump


19 posted on 11/22/2013 10:54:45 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: sickoflibs

Not illegal, just illustrative of the current attitude of “we’ll get rid of any Constitution, law, regulation, or rule that’s in our way, and damn the consequences!”


20 posted on 11/22/2013 10:56:58 AM PST by kevkrom (It's not "immigration reform", it's an "amnesty bill". Take back the language!)
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To: rarestia
Somewhat embarrassing, but I had to look up ‘Reichstag Fire’ to get a handle on what you were trying to say. I agree with your thinking.

Interesting that the cause of the fire is debatable. Could well have been a false flag by the Nazis. Mmmm...false flag...where have I heard about that being used before?

21 posted on 11/22/2013 10:57:23 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: yoe

Republicans wont bring everything to a halt because as guilty as Democrats are of bullying whoever is in their path to get their way, Republicans are just as guilty of putting themselves first, before the people. Their damaging tactics are different but not less damaging.

They only care about political posturing. They think the nuclear option will only enhance their chances in 2014 therefore they just stand back and watch saying “Look what a bully Reid/Obama is”. To hell with the fact that the Democrats are taking over more of America with each move, Republicans are as guilty of putting their power over the people as Democrats.


22 posted on 11/22/2013 10:59:17 AM PST by Kenny
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You know... if/when we win back the senate.... we make a new senate rule that says, the senate can invalidate its consent of any judge that has been appointed in the past 3 years. Bounce all of his appointees out and then laugh at the liberal press when they go bat*&^#. :)


23 posted on 11/22/2013 10:59:42 AM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: kevkrom
RE :Not illegal, just illustrative of the current attitude of “we’ll get rid of any Constitution, law, regulation, or rule that’s in our way, and damn the consequences!”

Plenty of areas to point that out, but changing that rule is something talk radio hosts were demanding in 2005

24 posted on 11/22/2013 11:00:59 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Texas Fossil
Let me remind you that we here on FR have know this for a LONG TIME.

I'll take exception to that. There have been many posters on FR that endorsed the communists empire. Those are the ones that opposed Romney. Those are the ones that didn't listen to Glenn Beck when he was on TV. Those are the ones that gave Newt a hard time. The list in huge. Everyone made mistakes but blind hate is no excuse. None of the above were perfect but with Romney, NO FEDERAL HEALTH CARE. He was totally opposed and stated many times that health care was a State problem and choice.

Glenn Beck outlined how communism would take over America unless we were informed and stop the move. He was right and was so far worried that he went to the religious way for redemption. Wrong move. Religion is a path but it is our works that would make the difference. Faith without works is dead.

Newt was and always will be a Constitutional conservative and in spite of some mistakes was and still is right.

25 posted on 11/22/2013 11:02:24 AM PST by Logical me
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To: VerySadAmerican

I still can’t understand how he has so many people on his side.


One indicator of why so many still back him is most Progressives thought there was nothing wrong in the IRS targeting Tea Party and other conservative groups. Progressives are tyrannical bastards. Obama might be an evil sonofabitch but he’s their evil sonofabitch.


26 posted on 11/22/2013 11:05:25 AM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Logical me

BINGO!!


27 posted on 11/22/2013 11:08:19 AM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Logical me

I never stated that ALL here on FR knew from the beginning.

I showed you that I made such a statement in Jan 2009.

There were many others here who fully understood what he was then.


28 posted on 11/22/2013 11:16:06 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: yoe

29 posted on 11/22/2013 11:17:15 AM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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30 posted on 11/22/2013 11:17:33 AM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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31 posted on 11/22/2013 11:17:48 AM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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32 posted on 11/22/2013 11:18:04 AM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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33 posted on 11/22/2013 11:18:33 AM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: Logical me
None of the above were perfect but with Romney, NO FEDERAL HEALTH CARE. He was totally opposed and stated many times that health care was a State problem and choice.

Romney has since said that he would have enforced Obamacide's provisions through the states. So yes, no Federal health care -- just statist health care forced us on through a warped sense of federalism. Not exactly 'totally opposed'.

34 posted on 11/22/2013 11:18:43 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: yoe
If he's from HAWAII, why does his SSN start with the CONNECTICUT SSN code '042'?

Because he's using a STOLEN SSN. Folks, look up 'SSN prefix by State' and see the list of codes. '042' means CONNECTICUT issued it.


35 posted on 11/22/2013 11:18:50 AM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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36 posted on 11/22/2013 11:19:06 AM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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37 posted on 11/22/2013 11:21:33 AM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: yoe

For other reasons, yes. But not for this. I have said over and over again that the filibuster is utterly unconstitutional. It should not exist. At all. As long as we focus on rabble rousing and silly arguments like this is some illegal, unconstitutional power grab we are doomed because it will color all our arguments (well it already has).

The Founding Fathers did not intend a filibuster. Get the word out. Win elections. But, sadly, we have nitwits in charge of the GOP.

And while I’m on it, winning the Senate, while important, has no effect on this as long as a Dem is in the WH. Quite frankly, I wish the GOP had gotten rid of the Judicial filibuster 10 years ago. back then, Conservatives were cheering for them to do it. Now, this is “illegal”, etc? Please.

Let’s return to what the Framers intended, get off this silly argument, and elect us some Conservatives.


38 posted on 11/22/2013 11:22:03 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: yoe
Its worse than that; our political betters enrich themselves at our expense and are blatantly corrupt and we are powerless to hold them to account.

We are powerless because they control the media. Joseph Goebbles would be embarrassed by the lies that are repeated day after day by the lapdog press in this country.

We are powerless because of the "bread & circus" programs the government employs to keep masses of people ignorant to their malfeacance.

And when "immigration reform" is passed, and it will be w/ smiling republicans in on the photo op, its over.

This isn't going to end well folks.

39 posted on 11/22/2013 11:24:50 AM PST by Pietro
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40 posted on 11/22/2013 11:28:58 AM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: Pietro

No, it is not. Essentially, every decent individual with good character and high morals is going to decide how they die:1. On their feet as free men/women fighting. or 2. Starved and worked to death in one of Obama’s or one of his stooge’s camps. Unless one dies a natural death before then, there will be no third option.


41 posted on 11/22/2013 11:30:44 AM PST by sport
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To: loveliberty2
A Declaration of Rights is, by reciprocity, a Declaration of Duties also. Whatever is my right as a man is also the right of another; and it becomes my duty to guarantee as well as to possess.

It is the God-given duty of the government and every man to protect and preserve God-given natural rights. But, if there is no God, which is what secular humanist, marxist, and postmodernist libtards believe, then there is nothing to stop them from the use of force based on the ideas that might makes right and the end justifies the means.Say hello to tyranny.

42 posted on 11/22/2013 11:30:53 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: sport
"1. On their feet as free men/women fighting. or 2. Starved and worked to death in one of Obama’s or one of his stooge’s camps"

I don't consider either of those options "ending well".

43 posted on 11/22/2013 11:32:26 AM PST by Pietro
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To: rarestia

Wonder what KhristalNact will be and when.


44 posted on 11/22/2013 11:33:15 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Logical me
Those are the ones that opposed Romney.

Those are the ones that voted for Romney in the primary.

Fixed it for you. The word was out for months that Romney would lose because a huge chunk of the conservative base saw right through him. But Hugh Hewitt and his ilk convinced republican R or nothing voters that he was "electable".

45 posted on 11/22/2013 11:41:55 AM PST by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: yoe

Yes, governmentally, America has devolved into a corrupt banana-republic. And, culturally, America has devolved into a degenerate sewer. Can a country like this even have a future? I have considerable doubt.


46 posted on 11/22/2013 11:43:39 AM PST by greene66
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To: yoe

Isn’t “Banana Republic” racist (TM)?


47 posted on 11/22/2013 11:48:49 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

Don’t think Romney was as rigged as McLame was.


48 posted on 11/22/2013 11:50:01 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: VerySadAmerican

The Rule of Law is dead and the legislative branch irrelevant, and done by design at the hands of dingy harry reid. He has blocked every piece of legislation in the Senate since the passage of 0bamacare. It has been deliberate, because the intent is to create a dysfunctional congress that cannot carry out its constitutional duties. Thus, it opens the door for the executive to assume de facto dictatorial powers without being challenged.


49 posted on 11/22/2013 11:52:52 AM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: Pietro
Its worse than that; our political betters enrich themselves at our expense and are blatantly corrupt and we are powerless to hold them to account.

It's not that we are powerless to do what it takes. Nobody has the will.

Our Founding Fathers would have burned their houses, destroyed their farms, their land, and when caught they would have been shot or hung.

So, no, we don't have the will.

50 posted on 11/22/2013 12:22:34 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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