Skip to comments.Boeing picks 15 potential sites nationwide to build 777X
Posted on 11/23/2013 11:49:51 AM PST by jazusamo
Boeing has issued a formal request for proposals (RFP) to 15 locations around the United States that will bid for the work of building its forthcoming 777X jet, according to a source close to the discussions.
Washington state is one of the 15 sites under consideration. The others include both existing Boeing locations and new greenfield sites, the source said.
Boeing spokesman Doug Alder confirmed Saturday that the RFPs were sent out late Friday afternoon and into the evening.
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How many potential sites are even possible in this country to build something like that? Are there even 15?
I think there may be about 15 sites in the whole country with the infrastructure and space to be a good place to build it without building up a whole new infrastructure around it.
San Antonio! Good idea.
Yes, San Antonio, TX would be best ;-)
A good choice would actually be Roswell, New Mexico. Its airport has the longest civilian runway in America, due to being a former Air Force base. It has a lot of aircraft workers for its size, due to a lot of aircraft maintenance going on there as well. Plenty of space available right at the airport or just outside.
This would be a good opportunity for Rick Perry to pipe up about Texas!
I was hoping they’d list them but I guess they aren’t going to. If they do take the 777X out of state I can’t see them not going to a right to work state except possibly to Long Beach, CA. They’ve got facilities and a work force though they’re union.
I thought Boeing built craft in Seattle? How about China? /sarc.
SC would have to come up with an unbelievable offer for Boeing to consider going there. It'd be like poking a hornet's nest with a stick..drive the IAM nuts..not worth the risk..
I’d say that’s pretty darn good info.
I was thinking the same thing. Hope that they are getting ready to announce their departure from the area. And that they are able to identify any of their “soon to be former employees” to give them a personal thanks and also, a good luck on the unemployment line.
Dallas has an old Air Force base right in town that the Air Force gave to the city and isn’t being used right now. The city is trying to sell it. That would also be a good choice.
They are winding down production of the C-17 in Long Beach. I am sure Boeing will gauge the union’s posture before making a commitment, but from a non union guy I know who works for their credit union, they’d vote for a plate of warmed over dog poop, if it were offered to them.
It would make sense..but again, with Texas so heavily invested in luring companies from blue states..choosing Texas, like SC..is waving a red flag in the union’s face..Boeing will still have to deal with the IAM...so it’s likely that they’ll want to let the union save some face...
Start with recently mothballed large airbases. Add industrial airports. Add active airbases that have excess land. Cecil Field, Fla. Carswell and the San Antonio fields in Texas. Alliance Airport in Texas. Old NAS Dallas. I don't know if the Winder, GA airport runway is long enough (5500 feet) but Joint Reserve Base Dobbins could handle the planes. And there is a lot of empty space at Plant 6 there. Kansas City airport is underutilized.
Independent of other issues such as scum unions...building in ANOTHER state gives Boeing two new Senators and a congress critter that theoretically advocate for them. Of course California has Boxer/Feinstein so that’s a non-starter.
Wanna bet that the site to be chosen is not on that list? Its the way corporations do things while they cut their deal with the future winner. Keeps speculators out of the loop and unions out of their hair. The winner will be the state that kicks in with the most perks and tax bennies. Its money that talks. Factories can be built anywhere.
Actually, Navy, not Air Force. And the city always owned it. When the Navy moved out, they let the basements of several buildings flood and chopped the landing light wires underwater in the lake to vandalize the place before they let it revert back to the city.
Why would they want to go to California? Costs ( utility, etc) are soooo much higher..
As a shareholder, I hope Boeing picks South Carolina. It would increase margins and profitability.
Agreed, I believe the union in CA would be tickled to work with Boeing to save jobs there.
It’s a good possibility the new commie NLRB of 0bama’s will get involved.
Roswell, NM is a fantastic place. America still grasps to life there.
Problem with 777X production would come from the fact that we are talking final assembly rather than true production here. Lots of parts made overseas, being shipped in, and, then combined for the final product. Makes a far inland place like Roswell not so good considering trucking wings and other sum-assemblies in from Houston or Galveston.
Long Beach, with its infrastructure, would seem an ideal place for such a project but the union seems dead set against gaining any further work. Pity. So Cal could use it.
One must understand that we aren't talking about huge factories where they build the whole plane from the ground up.
The 777 is built in subunits (about 50,000 SUBUNITS) that (currently) are built in a variety of countries.
Here, for example, is a chart showing the countries that build subunits for the 787.
He's got a lot of Texas Enterprise $$ to offer and the old/retired (/) Kelly AFB, adjacent to Randolph AFB, is there (San Antone).
True, however, that would not exclude anywhere along the great lakes or Mississippi.
With a mayor being one of obama’s butt buddies and socialist pals?
Wholly crap why so much outsourcing? Is the Euro community holding Boeing hostage? “Better let us in on the action, otherwise good luck selling your planes to Euro Airlines”??
I hate GE but certainly they could be building engines vs what I assume is Rolls Royce?
What about Pratt and Whitney engines?
Yes, that seems to be the prevailing sentiment - not an abundance of good paying jobs here, these days.
A compromise to political reality that Boeing sells to many of these countries. "See we're practically Japanese/Turkish/Chinese etc anyway..."
The bottom 4 on that list make sense. The first two have a good talent pool available, but the Government regulations and taxes in those States should dissuade anyone from building new factories in those areas. Also, the Unions probably also are dominant in those two areas - thus providing another strong reason to pick from the bottom four.
A$$wipe interstate free trade is what it is all about. I have no clue what you are insinuating with your insipid post.
Oh, and no unions...another TX benefit ;-)
Then produce it overseas. I see a problem with New Mexico as it is a blue state.
That’s what really hacks me off.
They (the state) offered Boeing 9 BILLION DOLLARS in tax incentives.
Now, they are talking about raising the gas tax so they can spend it on roads and infrastructure that helps Boeing.
Meanwhile, the machinists told Boeing to take a flying leap, after Boeing practically GUARANTEED them 8 more years of employment, what’s that, A QUARTER of the average persons employment lifetime?
Now, the machinists are crying in their beer about how unfair Boeing is...
They need to man the hell up. They tried to push Boeing around, and it said “No thanks!”
Would not surprise me one bit if in 20 years, there is no Boeing in Washington state.
Roswell, long runway? Didn’t realize those alien spacecraft needed long runways.
I live 35 miles from The Long Beach plant, and ordinarily I would agree with you. The thing that makes this locale look viable is the fact that Boeing can not afford to have a serious delay in production. Long Beach is an existing plant, with a trained workforce, and a nearby port, for importing all the components manufactured off shore. I can see where they’d absorb the extra costs here, in order to get production ramped up in relatively short order. Thanks.
I don’t really see what the problem is for Seattle. Didn’t Kshama Sawant say she was going to steal that Boeing factory and “convert” it into making VCRs and lectric buses and rainbow generators and Unicorn horseshoes and other useful stuff not used for war?
Texas has aerospace unions, but we are a right to work state.
No doubt about it, what a putz she is. LOL!
Yeh, but the state would crank up the taxation rape machine within 5 years of being there.