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Historic Lutheran churches feeling some stress
Lewistown Sentinal ^ | November 23, 2013 | AP

Posted on 11/23/2013 7:26:11 PM PST by 11th_VA

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The whole article avoids the reasons for drop in membership
1 posted on 11/23/2013 7:26:11 PM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

Both Smithville and LaGrange TX have a large population of German Lutherans.

They make some of the best kolaches in the world, I’m sure!


2 posted on 11/23/2013 7:29:57 PM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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But how’s the gemutlichkeit?


3 posted on 11/23/2013 7:42:15 PM PST by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: OldNewYork

I don’t know that one—at least not by that name......LOL!


4 posted on 11/23/2013 7:47:56 PM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: 11th_VA

No, it mentions it about half way down. Look under the subhead “ CONSOLIDATION CAN BE ‘NONSTARTER’ “


5 posted on 11/23/2013 7:48:28 PM PST by PAR35
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The whole article avoids the reasons for drop in membership
Yes. The ELCA and Presbyterian Church USA (PCUSA) have devolved from mainline Christian denominations who taught the Gospel to Liberal hate groups who meet at the same time and same location every Sunday.
6 posted on 11/23/2013 7:50:18 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: basil

The Lutherans have moved from being conservative both theologically and politically 30-40 years ago to being liberal today. They along with most other mainline Christian churches have followed the same pattern. (ditto universities and government) This is the story of what happens.

However, you will find individual parishes within all denominations which have been able to remain conservative by careful selection of pastors and smart lay leaders who have recognized the problem of liberal infiltration and maintained a disciplined order of business. They have generally prospered over the years. Not many, but they are there.


7 posted on 11/23/2013 7:52:24 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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The Lutherans are responsible for bringing Somalis from Africa into the U.S.

According to refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com:

WASHINGTON, Oct. 31, 2013 — /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service (LIRS) resettled over 10,000 refugees in fiscal year 2013, thereby contributing, as America’s second-largest resettlement agency, to the United States reaching its refugee admissions target for the first time since 1980.

LIRS has resettled 10,095 refugees in 2013, including many refugee kids who arrived without a parent or guardian and in desperate need of protection and human care,” said Terry Abeles, LIRS Director for Refugee Resettlement. “This achievement comes as we approach our 75th anniversary in 2014, and marks an important new milestone in a history in which we’ve helped nearly 400,000 refugees rebuild their lives."

8 posted on 11/23/2013 8:01:44 PM PST by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: elpadre

I know exactly what you are talking about—I’m Catholic—LOL!


9 posted on 11/23/2013 8:19:27 PM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: 11th_VA

ELCA - Liberal 4 million
LCMS - Moderate 2.3 million
WELS - Conservative .4 million

My neighbor was talking about how her (ELCA) Church and its school were slowly dieing. It was really sad.

The ELCA has lost over 500,000 members and 1,000 congregations since their endorsement of homosexuality. Its donations are also drying up: Donations were $88 million in 2008 but only $40 million in 2011.


10 posted on 11/23/2013 8:22:46 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: 11th_VA

We are having the same problems here in Akron Ohio (LCMS). My husband got in an argument at a council meeting, because no one ever checks into the reasons members are leaving. The Mo. Synod is forcing churches to move to the left. new hymnals that water down our doctrine. Words are changed for no reason. I have an idea many are leaving because of the modern ideology and contemporary hymns and services.
I always thought LCMS was special in it’s doctrine and hymns—as opposed to Protestant Churches. Members are not happy with these changes—synod thinks they will get more members-—WRONG. We were raised to believe in strict doctrine—now we wonder why we even bother to attend.


11 posted on 11/23/2013 8:39:13 PM PST by RightLady
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Is the Lutheran university in conservative Seguin, TX, also a liberal enclave? Maybe they should change their name to (Martin Luther) King Church. A lot of Americans can’t distinguish between the better known MLK and the original Martin Luther.


12 posted on 11/23/2013 8:47:03 PM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: icwhatudo

$40 million is still too high. It might be that the generous donors left are uninformed about the direction of their own church.


13 posted on 11/23/2013 8:48:17 PM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: lightman

You may want to see this.


14 posted on 11/23/2013 8:49:27 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor, LCMS)
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To: elpadre

Evicting Christ from Christianity hurts it all right....


15 posted on 11/23/2013 8:49:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: 11th_VA
Coming Home Network
16 posted on 11/23/2013 8:52:32 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RightLady

Well if the doctrines are the chief reason, you’re going to get disappointed. Most important is to have the Christ that the doctrines are intended to describe. You don’t get Christ by making a web of doctrines and waving it in the air. Once you DO have Christ, then getting the doctrines as correct as you can makes sense.


17 posted on 11/23/2013 8:53:26 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Salvation

Ah, out of the frying pan into the fire


18 posted on 11/23/2013 8:53:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: 11th_VA
The congregations mentioned in this article are all of the extrememly liberal ELCA variety, and most of them have female "pastors."

But even conservative, confessional Lutheran congregations (such as mine, in the LCMS) are struggling.

19 posted on 11/23/2013 8:55:16 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor, LCMS)
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Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!

* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.

Glory to the King of kings!

20 posted on 11/23/2013 8:55:21 PM PST by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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