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Booming NC home schools face little scrutiny
Charlotte Observer ^ | Saturday, Nov. 23, 2013 | Ann Doss Helms

Posted on 11/23/2013 8:37:30 PM PST by Sam's Army

Over the years, pediatricians and others in North Carolina have worried about children supposedly being educated at home who end up missing, dead or abused.

The latest case: An 11-year-old Union County boy found handcuffed to his front porch with a dead chicken tied to his neck. Wanda Sue Larson, who had custody of the boy and four adopted children living in the home, had filed last year to home-school the children. Larson has been charged with child abuse, and investigators say they found signs the boy was frequently handcuffed inside.

Home schooling is booming in North Carolina. The number of registered home schools has doubled in the past decade to 53,347. Mecklenburg County alone has more than 4,000 registered schools serving an estimated 6,573 children.

In North Carolina, like most states, those children can disappear from outside scrutiny. Home schools are never inspected; federal courts have ruled that sending government workers into homes violates the Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/11/23/4491992/booming-nc-home-schools-face-little.html#storylink=cpy

(Excerpt) Read more at charlotteobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: arth; frhf

1 posted on 11/23/2013 8:37:30 PM PST by Sam's Army
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To: Sam's Army; metmom
And not once is it mentioned in this report that the victimized child in this case was under care of a state DSS agent.

Author Ann Doss Helms is the local Charlotte govt school advocate for the press/state apparatus. I'm sure she has no agenda here...none.

3 posted on 11/23/2013 8:45:42 PM PST by Sam's Army
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To: Sam's Army

So there are isolated cases of trouble in homeschools, affecting individuals.
Compared to systemic drugs, sex ed, sex in all forms, gangs, fights, crumbling buildings, marxist training, and low academic standards in the public schools, affecting tens of millions.


4 posted on 11/23/2013 9:02:07 PM PST by lurk
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To: lurk

“The issue is never the issue. The issue is the revolution.”


5 posted on 11/23/2013 9:06:10 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Sam's Army

It is very strange how some people are suspicious of home schoolers and the media tries to associate the movement with abuse. Home schoolers excel in most ways on average. Most parents that home school do so because they are more dedicated parents.

Of course home inspections is a violation of the fourth amendment (that pesky thing /s). And they are completely unnecessary. More abuse goes on in public school than home schools by far.

When horrible cases like this happen the law deals with it already. The government is not great at enforcing the law, but it is terrible at preventing people from breaking the law in the first place.


6 posted on 11/23/2013 9:29:08 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner

Well stated. The article is very misleading.


7 posted on 11/23/2013 9:43:38 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Sam's Army
Yeah, it's home schoolers who are a threat to kids. Geesh.

40 Canadian teachers busted in a child porn sting.

8 posted on 11/23/2013 9:44:17 PM PST by TruthBeforeAll
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To: Sam's Army

And this one isolated case mentioned in the article is compared to what? Certainly not the pristine government schools who, on almost a daily bases, have teachers molesting children. And what do they do with them? Why they give them the ultimate punishment; they transfer them to another school!


9 posted on 11/23/2013 10:00:34 PM PST by celmak
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To: Sam's Army
Funny thing. The Progressive Education monopoly over state-funded K-12 schools gets damn little scrutiny, too, in North Carolina and everywhere else.

Then again, when those students in both home-school and government school tracks are compared (under every chart) the home-schoolers are always on top.

Of course, they are also more likely to believe in God, also.

I really don't think the leftist Charlotte Observer really wants to spout too much about the mote in the other guy's eye with the log they have balanced on their nose.

10 posted on 11/23/2013 10:13:00 PM PST by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: celmak; Prospero

See post #5.


11 posted on 11/23/2013 10:42:28 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Sam's Army
To libtards, and especially NEA,
1.)its all about getting desks filled in classrooms,
to qualify for MORE govt. (read:taxpayer) dollars.
2.) Making future 'good democrats' of them.
and possibly 3.) making little goose-stepping, report-the-subversive-activities-of-your-parents type informers,
then they wont need to have MD's ask if you have a firearms in your home...
12 posted on 11/23/2013 10:48:06 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: Sam's Army

And the DSS needs its owns SWAT team and MWRAPs too!

It’s for the children!


13 posted on 11/23/2013 10:55:56 PM PST by Darteaus94025 (Fascist President)
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To: Sam's Army

That happens in my state too. The kids are under the care of child protective services and they completely miss the abuse. Then a nanny state politician tries to blame it on parental neglect and introduces really invasive legislation which fails because home schooling parents go ballistic.


14 posted on 11/23/2013 11:47:18 PM PST by goldi
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To: Sam's Army
Wanda Sue Larson, who had custody of the boy and four adopted children living in the home

This sounds like more of a problem with the adoption system in this particular state than a home schooling problem. Obviously this "adoptive" parent wanted to hide her abuse so started home schooling. One case out of millions.

Just another attempt to end home schooling so the brain washing of American children can continue unopposed.

15 posted on 11/24/2013 3:27:14 AM PST by calex59
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To: Sam's Army

The children of Sandy Hook would be alive today if they had been home schooled.

This woman is anti-freedom and anti-American.


16 posted on 11/24/2013 3:40:43 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: txrefugee

I wonder if any of those parents had seriously thought about homeschooling before their children were killed.


17 posted on 11/24/2013 4:15:58 AM PST by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: Sam's Army
not once is it mentioned in this report that the victimized child in this case was under care of a state DSS agent.

To emphasize, Ms. Larson is a DSS Supervisor. She was the adoptive/foster parent of the children in question. She's the one who is supposed to "scrutinize" normal people's families.

18 posted on 11/24/2013 4:55:24 AM PST by Tax-chick (It's like everyone has Attention Deficit Disorder, except for me.)
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To: Sam's Army; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

HOMESCHOOL PING

This ping list is for articles of interest to homeschoolers. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping List. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added or removed from either list, or both.

The keyword for the FREE REPUBLIC HOMESCHOOLERS’ FORUM is frhf.

I'm pinging this thread to both lists. This is alarming for homeschoolers and I think all homeschoolers everywhere need to keep abreast of this situation.

I could see this kind of mentality by government officials spreading.

Problem is, they need to clean house first. Instead of focusing on homeschooling being the problem we need to focus on THEM not doing their jobs instead of blame-shifting.

But they will go after homeschoolers nevertheless.

19 posted on 11/24/2013 5:10:38 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Sam's Army

The Charlotte Observer has REALLY scrutinized Kay Hagan and her pal Hussein....so now they turn their eyes to home schoolers.


20 posted on 11/24/2013 5:17:40 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Tax-chick
"To emphasize, Ms. Larson is a DSS Supervisor. She was the adoptive/foster parent of the children in question. She's the one who is supposed to "scrutinize" normal people's families."

Yes, thank you. A bit late when I was getting this posted, and that point can't be said enough.

21 posted on 11/24/2013 7:22:14 AM PST by Sam's Army
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To: Sam's Army
In North Carolina, like most states, those children can disappear from outside scrutiny.

No outside scrutiny? The horror.

Typical statist reporting. How is the "outside scrutiny" of government schools doing? What successes have they had?

22 posted on 11/24/2013 8:27:40 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: lurk
An 11-year-old Union County boy found handcuffed to his front porch with a dead chicken tied to his neck. Wanda Sue Larson, who had custody of the boy and four adopted children living in the home, had filed last year to home-school the children. Larson has been charged with child abuse, and investigators say they found signs the boy was frequently handcuffed inside.

Whoops. It appears this woman was under the "outside scrutiny" of the state. How did that go?

23 posted on 11/24/2013 8:29:10 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: unlearner

The real attack isn’t against “home schooling”, but against parents in general. It’s hard to home school as a single parent. This is just an extension of the attack against parenting and parental control of children. The entire purpose of the government school system is to separate children from their parent’s values and beliefs. The goal is to instill in children a love of the state and its values and beliefs.


24 posted on 11/24/2013 8:33:14 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Tax-chick

The state using the state to expand the state. That’s the Standard Operating Procedure always, no? The capon media just go along to get along.


25 posted on 11/24/2013 8:41:00 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Sam's Army
Well?...Gee!...If school-aged kids are in so much danger, then what about those poor little preschoolers? Aren't they in danger, too?

I have an idea! Let's have government school teachers in every maternity delivery room. The teachers can snip the umbilical cord and then whisk the newborn off to newborn schools. Hey! It's for the chiiiiildren!

( Is a sarc tag necessary?)

26 posted on 11/24/2013 8:57:09 AM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime
( Is a sarc tag necessary?)
Certainly shouldn’t be, but I’ll provide it nonetheless:
</sarcasm>
( <b><font color=red>&lt;/sarcasm></font></b> )

27 posted on 11/24/2013 10:15:17 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (&#147;Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: 1010RD

The entire purpose of the government school system is to separate children from their parent’s values and beliefs.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Gatto documents this well in his writings. The **earliest** lobbyists for government run and compelled schooling ( in the early and mid 1800s) **plainly** stated that this was, indeed, their intention. Separate the children from their parents!


28 posted on 11/24/2013 10:20:45 AM PST by wintertime
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To: Sam's Army

NC homeschool dad here. Nothing succeeds like success. And for the record, I do not need to be “supervised” by some government bureaucrat. Thank God for the North Carolina Department of Non-Public Education, who leaves homeschoolers the hell alone and lets us do our jobs.


29 posted on 11/24/2013 10:32:34 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: Sam's Army

In other news, parents found to be threat to child well being... </sarcasm>


30 posted on 11/24/2013 6:42:48 PM PST by mbj
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To: Sam's Army

I found myself criticizing myself for just not believing
this story was the whole story? Am I getting lazy, or
just wising up?


31 posted on 12/08/2013 7:19:13 PM PST by cycjec
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To: Slings and Arrows

that’s a quote, but I can’t place it. entirely apposite,
though


32 posted on 12/08/2013 7:19:54 PM PST by cycjec
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To: Prospero

You said what I wanted to say. I’ll save it up for later
use, if you don’t mind


33 posted on 12/08/2013 7:20:59 PM PST by cycjec
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To: cycjec

David Horowitz, quoting an unnamed SDS leader.


34 posted on 12/08/2013 7:34:36 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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