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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 24 November 2013
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 24 November 2013 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 11/24/2013 4:41:57 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

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To: Alas Babylon!

FNS

Wallace: ‘Next, let me ask you briefly ...’

[and Wallace rambles for 30 seconds building up to a question]

==

Wallace has Palin on to ‘respond to those hateful questions ... ‘

[An early attempt to try to keep Palin sidelined for 2016. There are issues of more importance than those, and her responding to them only exacerbates them. Maybe Palin doesn’t take the bait.]

Wallace does start the interview by asking about the healthcare.gov roll-out problems.

Palin says people are awake now and the Tea Party are partly responsible.

Palin questions that 30 million more will get coverage under Obamacare. She basically says that government numbers/reports are lying.

Wallace skips on to the filibuster issue.


51 posted on 11/24/2013 6:23:16 AM PST by TomGuy (.)
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To: TomGuy

Palin controls the interview. She doesn’t let Wallace sidetrack her into making soundbites that can be used against her.


52 posted on 11/24/2013 6:26:05 AM PST by maica (We are seeing an interesting mixture of malice and incompetence at healthcare.gov)
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To: Fishtalk
do not let the media call this thing a GAME!!! It’s assault and nothing less.

This week, I lost count of the number of times King O Himself said "change the rules of the game," and "game changer" in reference to healthcare and his other money waste projects. MSM is simply adopting King O's descriptions of the week.

Knockout is Wilding v6.66. We must remain very aware of our surroundings while in crowded places.

53 posted on 11/24/2013 6:28:01 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: maica
I apologize in advance for any words spoken by Senators or Representatives from my state of Maryland

They are the ones who should be apologizing - not you.

However, I do understand your embarrassment. I was born and raised in New York and used to live there and like it until the job situation and taxes drove me out. The place is overrun with slimy politicians the likes of Schumer and Cuomo who would be more at home in the Kremlin than they are the upstate. But they rule the joint and do what they want.

54 posted on 11/24/2013 6:28:20 AM PST by Gritty (You can't fix crazy any more than you can fix stupid. Obamacare was never going to work.-Steve Deace)
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To: Alas Babylon!

FNS

Palin responds to the Bashir comments by saying basically — water off a duck’s bath ...

as long as the comments are direct at her, BUT AIM THEM AT THE HELPLESS OR THE CHILDREN AND THAT WILL UNLEASH MAMA GRIZZLY.


55 posted on 11/24/2013 6:29:22 AM PST by TomGuy (.)
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To: PaleoBob

I never dreamed the hard left would try some of the tricks they are trying now. But since laws don’t apply to them anyway why not. This is probably something they would try in zeros last years.


56 posted on 11/24/2013 6:29:47 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Words have meaning. Once you loose this simple truth you have Communist double speak. Once whores were whores. Today they are sex workers.

I’m sorry I have that wrong, they are called Democrats and Rinos. On the other side of this coin the Rats and Rinos call the Tea Partiers whores.

All is fair in Love and War


57 posted on 11/24/2013 6:31:42 AM PST by DanZ
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Some people are so much into argument they become trolls.

When one post is replied to by 3-4 posts, then that is trolling.

Do NOT feed the troll is my advice.

15 years of posting this thread, week after week, year after year have convinced me, that when you do not reply at all to a troll, they go away, but one reply causes them to stay and continue to inflame. So...

Do NOT feed the troll.


58 posted on 11/24/2013 6:37:06 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Gritty

Thanks Gritty, I appreciate that. It breaks down how they have installed their Marxism.


59 posted on 11/24/2013 6:38:44 AM PST by bray (Delay Obamacare)
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To: Alas Babylon!
When one post is replied to by 3-4 posts, then that is trolling.
Do NOT feed the troll is my advice.

Amen!

60 posted on 11/24/2013 6:39:01 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Amen!


61 posted on 11/24/2013 6:40:19 AM PST by maica (We are seeing an interesting mixture of malice and incompetence at healthcare.gov)
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To: maica

If words did not have power to control thought, Obama would not have pivoted last week to call his health care plan the Affordable Care Act instead of Obamacare.
The point is well taken. Although the perps refer to this violence as a game, it is deadly serious to its victims. Referring to it as Polar Bear Hunting reveals the true racial nature of the phenomenon.


62 posted on 11/24/2013 6:43:47 AM PST by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: TomGuy
Good stuff Tom. I'm curious about zero's plan to give the Iranian Mullahs nine billion in spending money(for Christmas gifts to the copts?) and stop looking so close at what they are doing.

this will certainly get Hillary to stop throwing lamps at bubba since her numbers were tanking so bad. And, it won't hurt zeros sagging numbers ether since zerocare was destroying the regime.

Is all this Iranian BS just a diversion? Inquiring minds.....Maybe val/jar and Hillary were behind all this and we just didn't pick up on it? What say you?

63 posted on 11/24/2013 6:43:56 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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ABC News: “Israel and the United States absolutely share the same goal here,” Kerry said. “There is no daylight between us with respect to what we want to achieve, at this point. We both want to make it certain Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. And Iran cannot be in a place where they can break out and suddenly get that nuclear weapon.

“The deal is the beginning and first step,” he said. “It leads us into the negotiation – so that we guarantee that while we are negotiating for the dismantling, while we are negotiating for the tougher positions, they will not grow their program and their capacity to threaten Israel. Israel will actually gain a larger breathing space in terms of the breakout capacity of Iran. It’s just clear.”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/11/sec-john-kerry-no-daylight-between-israel-and-united-states/


64 posted on 11/24/2013 6:47:00 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

FOX “NEWS” interviews former Gov. Palin

Wallace sets up Gov Palin first by talking about problems
and divisions in DC and then suddenly segues ... to her.

Wallace asks her about ObamaCARE which she says is a
problem, and begins itemzing. Wallace, a long-sweetheart
of Romney and RomneyCARE, says “do you think this is a
tipping point”? Yes, Gov. Palin says as Wallace defends
ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE as he purports that it extends
healthcare to “millions”.

Palin will have none of this nonsense, and says she
“questions those numbers” which have been fabricated
by the Obama regime, and which Wallace and FOX “News”
accepts like the TeamRomney-sheep that they are.

Having none of it, Gov. Palin goes to explain how
actually FEWER American people will now be covered
under “sensibile doctor patient relationships”
(DING DING DING).

Since this clear ‘look behind the curtain’ hits
ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE dead-center,
and because Wallace LOVES ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE
(and Wallace/FOX “News” has conveniently scheduled
Romney’s wife for the special segment during the hour,
timed to be after the interview with Gov. Palin),
Wallace again quickly changes the subject off topic,
and back to DC.

Gov. Palin nimbly goes on to discuss the “rule change”.
and says people at their Thanksgiving tables will talk
not about it, but instead about failed government and
governmental hypocrisy.

This is a great answer ... so again Wallace must change
the subject (he never follows up on conservatives
making a point) and switches to Bashir’s filthy comments
from last week. Grossly, Wallace goes into great detail
about “defication into mouths”. Does Wallace stop there?
Nope. Sickly, on and on, Wallace continues, like a true
TeamRomney member. Wallace continues on, even replaying a
tape of sick comments. Palin responds, clearly explains
the illogical aspect of the smear
(Bashir used the same word),
calls the slanderous statement “vile” and “evil”, and
presents a clear definition of ‘slavery’.

And now the key issue: Gov. Palin points out that the MSM
did nothing about this, thereby condoning it.
Wallace is silent for a bit, but then defends Bashir by
presenting his mustered thin apology,
and Wallace asks Gov. Palin to accept it.

She points out that the MSM has had nothing but hypocrisy,
and that all people accept apologies, and that this one
was made for attention. Gov. Palin says that if Bashir was
really interested in apologizing, he should privately call
Todd or her children first.


65 posted on 11/24/2013 6:48:29 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Fishtalk
Clarice Feldman has an analysis of Reid's filibuster initiative.

She says the Obie will get a couple of wacky libs on lower courts, but won't be able to pack the DC circuit because the house is in no friggn' mood to increase their budget to expand the number of judges.

Secondly, that ugly mood will cause all sorts of trouble; slow playing any nominees, totally refusing to approve a SC nomination should one occur (3/5ths still needed for legislation and SC nominees at this point)

For legislation the house can simply refuse to take up any legislation that has not passed the 3/5th gauntlet.

Finally, the timing is particularly bad, since Dems are looking at losing the senate in short order, short enough that a slow play tactic would nullify most everything.

All in all, its not the end of the world. Still, I love the idea that the Senate is supposed to be a body that gums up the whole works and makes change very slow, deliberate, and supported by more than one party. What's to stop Reid from adopting a simple majority for everything ? Feldman says fear of the bite-back is greater than the short term win.

66 posted on 11/24/2013 6:50:04 AM PST by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: maica

No apology necessary!,p>
If you think you have bad politicos we have Metro Charlie Crist, Marco-Banda de los Ochos- Rubio, (a little espanola there) and the piece de resistance— Debbie Washerwoaman-hair on fire- Schultz- Berkowitz- imam- mohammed who runs the DNC.
If any apologies are necessary I make them, bowing deeply as I do.


67 posted on 11/24/2013 6:50:50 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

There have been occasional threads this passed year about Iran and the US in secret negotiations. Those reports were rapidly directed toward the trash cans as ‘conspiracy’ nonsense.

Now, we discover that those reports were not so far-fetched, that the US and a few other major nations have been in secret negotiations with Iran.

hmmmmm. I recall similar nonsensical ‘conspiracy’ reports about the US spying on citizens, etc.

==

It is curious that so many of these nonsensical ‘conspiracy’ accusations seem to have more truth than fiction. Many articles of satire turn out have more truth than fiction.

We are truly living in a strange world.


68 posted on 11/24/2013 6:54:27 AM PST by TomGuy (.)
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To: Fishtalk
And as you mentioned, Fish, 3/5ths , or 2/3rds requirements are not in the constitution. They are simply rules adopted, long held and obeyed as they may be.

My solution would be to keep a supermajority rule for much of the senate business which could be agreed upon by a simple majority, but not taking affect for 6 years.

69 posted on 11/24/2013 6:56:27 AM PST by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: Alas Babylon!

FNS

Wallace goes commercial — pushing Ann Romney’s cookbook. That is as bad as Wallace pushing his wife’s cookbook.


70 posted on 11/24/2013 6:56:55 AM PST by TomGuy (.)
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To: Diogenesis

Thanks for the update. Many of us don’t get this until much later. Much appreciated.


71 posted on 11/24/2013 6:58:31 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Diogenesis

Palin nails her interview and stops Wallace a number of times. Her statement of the hypocrisy of the media towards Conservative women vs protected groups was powerful. Stating a couple times that Conservative women are a target of the left is powerful.

She has become the voice of the Conservative movement. Well done.


72 posted on 11/24/2013 6:59:50 AM PST by bray (Delay Obamacare)
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To: TomGuy

Exactly! Great points and the deeds supposedly were negotiated by none other than our defacto potus val/jar.
Is this a treaty? Does it have to be voted on by Congress?


73 posted on 11/24/2013 7:01:29 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: ez

If words did not have power to control thought, Obama would not have pivoted last week to call his health care plan the Affordable Care Act instead of Obamacare.

$$$

Yes, that pivot was actually amusing. They really embraced Obamacare until the website rollout.


74 posted on 11/24/2013 7:04:06 AM PST by maica (We are seeing an interesting mixture of malice and incompetence at healthcare.gov)
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To: bray

Palin nails her interview and stops Wallace a number of times. Her statement of the hypocrisy of the media towards Conservative women vs protected groups was powerful. Stating a couple times that Conservative women are a target of the left is powerful.

She has become the voice of the Conservative movement. Well done


Wallace seemed fairly tame to me. I didn’t have any problem with how he conducted the interview—I do know it was chopped a little in the editing.

As for Sarah, I hadn’t seen her in a while and she just gets better all the time, doesn’t she. She’s definitely the straw that stirs the drink. Just the best.

And I’m definitely gonna get the book—I enjoyed her other books immensely.

Also enjoyed seeing Mrs. Romney. What a class act. He married WAY above his grade. In my mind I can hear the late Howard Cosell saying, “Mitt, she’s much too good for you” — with a smile.


75 posted on 11/24/2013 7:15:19 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Fishtalk
WHEN the pubs get back in charge, THEY BETTER NOT CHANGE IT BACK! THAT would be dumb.

They don't call the Republicans the "STUPID" party for nothing.
76 posted on 11/24/2013 7:17:33 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: maica; ez
FNC produced a montage of clips with all the usual Dem suspects referring to ObamaCare, followed by this week's pivot to Affordable Healthcare Act. The finale was Pelosi adding, "I've always called it that."

Lightning bolts would have been apropos.

77 posted on 11/24/2013 7:20:16 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Ya think they will discuss this?

http://dailycurrant.com/2013/10/29/government-opening-free-gas-stations-in-poor-neighborhoods/


78 posted on 11/24/2013 7:21:45 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Alas Babylon!
Sara Palin was such a breath of fresh air this AM. Chris asked her about her Christmas book and she said Christ is the reason for the season. Other expressions referencing the season are OK but December 25 is Christmas. Asked about the filthy remarks of the MSNBC newsreader Bashire, she was accepting of his apology because, as I gathered from her reply, that was the proper response to a person who humbles themselves to deliver such. What Sara did make very clear was that while she can and does take care of herself, hands off of her children and family or there will be hell to pay. It was quite refreshing to see both Sara and Ann Romney today. Beautiful Republican women with beautiful spirits and enthusiasm for God and family. And country. Bless them both.
79 posted on 11/24/2013 7:26:35 AM PST by mountainfolk (God Bless the United States of America and the Republic for which it stands.)
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To: PaleoBob

Sarah: “We don’t care if the healthcare website works.” lol!


80 posted on 11/24/2013 7:27:13 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Fortunately, that story is satirical fiction.


81 posted on 11/24/2013 7:30:10 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: Diogenesis

Good report but I don’t think it was necessarily bad for Wallace to go into all the details about Bashir said.

First of all, while WE here on Free Republic know what Bashir said (we’re very informed) millions did not. The driveby media ignores it, so this might be a first hearing for many, many folks.

It also very much got Sarah into the limelight responding, and sheds light on all the abuse and attacks she has faced and asks the question why is the media ignoring this blatant verbal abuse while hyperventilating about any and all perceived slights against Obama and the media Leftist darlings they’re so ready to defend.

If that is Wallace trying to help Romney he’s doing a pi$$-poor job ‘cause it ain’t working!


82 posted on 11/24/2013 7:31:58 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: PaleoBob

They have to shut her down since she makes too much sense. They used to call Reagan an idiot too and later they found his writing was in the 140 IQ range. The same thing is being done to her.

Marxism = Intelligence to the Marxists.

Pray America is Waking


83 posted on 11/24/2013 7:33:03 AM PST by bray (Delay Obamacare)
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To: mountainfolk

Sara or Sarah?

It should be Sarah. That’s how she spells it.


84 posted on 11/24/2013 7:33:55 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: mountainfolk

I do wish she would have asked if his apology was sincere or was ordered to read it by his producers and then accepted it. Most of us never saw his face before and would have no idea who he was except he attacked Palin.

They fear her more than anyone else in America.


85 posted on 11/24/2013 7:36:47 AM PST by bray (Delay Obamacare)
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To: ExTexasRedhead; NautiNurse

Maybe now, but if the libs/rats begin to think that they can buy enough votes to keep power with some more Santa games....


86 posted on 11/24/2013 7:38:02 AM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet (For why should my Freedom be judged by anothers conscience? 1 Cor 10:29)
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To: bray

I hope she lets O’Reilly keep making his threats to her and she goes on and cleans his ignorant clock. She has to demand a full half hour so he doesn’t interrupt and filibuster his tirades. She could handle anybody right now.

Wallace didn’t lay a glove on her and even gave the false narrative of 30 million served and she threw it right back, 100 million canceled.


87 posted on 11/24/2013 7:41:02 AM PST by bray (Delay Obamacare)
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To: Cheerio

ABC This Week; panel was not supportive of Harry Reid. Cokie, Dowd, Kristol, even Stephy a bit. Only Donna Brazile supported it. Surprised me.


88 posted on 11/24/2013 7:41:19 AM PST by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: Alas Babylon!
The entire Democrat platform is a lie, period. They pretend to be for the worker when they are only for absolute control and punishing those workers.

You're right - it's democrat actions we need to watch - NOT their cheesy words and platitudes... You pegged 'em Alas...

89 posted on 11/24/2013 7:57:36 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Sarah: “We don’t care if the healthcare website works.” lol!


My favorite line too. Perfect!


90 posted on 11/24/2013 8:00:28 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: GOPJ

Hey, GOPJ; it was not I, but FReeper Bray who wrote that OUTSTANDING essay!


91 posted on 11/24/2013 8:11:31 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: chiller
ABC This Week; panel was not supportive of Harry Reid.

Sinking ship of fools loaded with drowning rats little surprise here.

92 posted on 11/24/2013 8:15:43 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: All

RE Sarah’s response to her use of the word “slavery” -—

“In the general course of human nature, a power over a man’s subsistence amounts to a power over his will. “

Alexander Hamilton Federalist #79


93 posted on 11/24/2013 8:21:04 AM PST by maica (We are seeing an interesting mixture of malice and incompetence at healthcare.gov)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Fox News Sunday 11.24.13
6 Minutes - the panel
Obamacare Problems - Is 2015 Delay Political & Will Thing Get Better Or Worst? - Fox News Sunday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlWBHNdac-A

12 Minutes
Sarah Palin Responds to Martin Bashir’s Vile Comments

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdjqxCseZH4

6 Minutes
CNN – includes clip of Iranian official on the Iran Deal.

Rogers: We Have Just Rewarded Very Bad And Dangerous Behavior

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrNLtapDUqk


94 posted on 11/24/2013 8:29:30 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: bray

Morning, great column today.

Would you please explain and show the connections between 0/Marxism and the housing industry? Leftist mortgage banker guy I know defends 0bama and I don’t know enough to argue.

Morgan


95 posted on 11/24/2013 8:33:22 AM PST by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The party of unintended consequences.)
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To: Morgan in Denver

Ask Bernanke or Soros...


96 posted on 11/24/2013 8:35:08 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: Popman

Here’s my question....

....If Reid puts it back in BEFORE he becomes minority leader, which I don’t doubt you he might do this....

...remember my scenario involved pubs getting in the majority....

Then the pubs should vote it back down when they are in the majority.

Let these Lords in America’s House of Lords keep doing this until they get tired of it.

I would like to see it go to a simple majority.....and let’s not forget how the Dems fooled around with this in order to cram Obamacare down our throast.


97 posted on 11/24/2013 8:39:19 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: chiller
ABC This Week; panel was not supportive of Harry Reid. Cokie, Dowd, Kristol, even Stephy a bit. Only Donna Brazile supported it. Surprised me.

Cokie, Dowd, Kristol, and Stephy can read the tea leaves and see what's likely to happen in 2014 and 2016.

Only Donna has the Obamacare Kool-Aid still streaming through her veins.

98 posted on 11/24/2013 8:43:35 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I tend to agree with you, AB, about the “need” for all the detail on what Bashir meant.

We, conservative sorts if you will, want to be “nice” so much....cause we try to live happy, law-abiding lives...why do they mock us? But your point that so many have not heard all the detail is probably right.

HERE’S the bigger point I’d suggest....Bashir went to all the trouble to go into the detail that seemed so unnecessary. He wanted to paint Palin as some sort of throw-back to slavery days, ok. But all that horrible, tasteless detail....what was that all about?

And don’t forget, what Bashir said, as I have read this past week, is heavily edited or at least perused by two or three people before he goes on the air.

If this is true, those people deliberately and purposefully put out that statement of despicable hatred.

I think somebody got bribed to say it. It was composed by someone desperate to degrade Palin.

I know....Saul Alinsky.

But what Alinsky doesn’t get around to is how all his trickery and deceit does have a time limit. Liars can only lie effectively for so long. While liars will always have the glib gift of lying on their tongues, the recipients of the lies will soon enough stop listening.

Mockery will soon be perceived for what it is.

And don’t forget that pride thing. This regime has been so able to get away with so much for so long that they lost touch with reality. I’d best the bank that they had no idea whatsoever that their lying would come back to haunt them. I’m thinking they were comfortable that they could toss off an incomplete web site with complaints and chuckles over the glitches.

The Palin comment was over the top.

And not a single person lost their job for saying it, very intentionally.


99 posted on 11/24/2013 8:50:30 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: bray
I took it as a given that Bashir was insincere and was merely doing what he was told. After the fact was not important for the purposes of his employers or himself. I was not aware of Bashir before his venomous spew against Palin either. Wonder if he even comprehends how badly this reflected on himself.
100 posted on 11/24/2013 8:52:33 AM PST by mountainfolk (God Bless the United States of America and the Republic for which it stands.)
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