Skip to comments.Abject Surrender by the United States
Posted on 11/24/2013 8:07:54 AM PST by yoe
Negotiations for an interim arrangement over Irans nuclear weapons program finally succeeded this past weekend, as Security Council foreign ministers (plus Germany) flew to Geneva to meet their Iranian counterpart. After raising expectations of a deal by first convening on November 8-10, it would have been beyond humiliating to gather again without result. So agreement was struck despite solemn incantations earlier that no deal is better than a bad deal.
This interim agreement is badly skewed from Americas perspective. Iran retains its full capacity to enrich uranium, thus abandoning a decade of Western insistence and Security Council resolutions that Iran stop all uranium-enrichment activities. Allowing Iran to continue enriching, and despite modest (indeed, utterly inadequate) measures to prevent it from increasing its enriched-uranium stockpiles and its overall nuclear infrastructure, lays the predicate for Iran fully enjoying its right to enrichment in any final agreement. Indeed, the interim agreement itself acknowledges that a comprehensive solution will involve a mutually defined enrichment program. This is not, as the Obama administration leaked before the deal became public, a compromise on Irans claimed right to enrichment. This is abject surrender by the United States.
In exchange for superficial concessions, Iran achieved three critical breakthroughs. First, it bought time to continue all aspects of its nuclear-weapons program the agreement does not cover (centrifuge manufacturing and testing; weaponization research and fabrication; and its entire ballistic missile program). Indeed, given that the interim agreement contemplates periodic renewals, Iran may have gained all of the time it needs to achieve weaponization not of simply a handful of nuclear weapons, but of dozens or more.
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Let’s see. John Bolton, john f’n heinz kerry. John Bolton, john f’n heinz kerry. I’ll take John Bolton for $1,000 Alex. In case you forgot, John Bolton and Clarence Thomas were college roomies. No wonder Bolton is such a loose cannon huh?
It disgraceful what has become of the greatest country on the planet. We’re all metrosexual fairies now. I knew this was going to happen once males living here developed a fondness for wearing pink.
America must be weak so that Obama can catch a break from that effing website.
America got concessions from Iran, period.
Pray America is Waking
The unconstitutionally elected admitted foreign born Islamic Kenyan has three agendas:
1. Destroy the US from within
2. Empower and spread radical Islam
3. Play golf.
This deal with Iran is just more of #2.
Am I right or what? EVERYTHING this guy does since day one has been based on those three agendas. I dare any liberal to show me otherwise. How many more examples do we need before somebody gets the nuts to start impeachment proceedings on this enemy of America who ISN’T EVEN SUPPOSE TO BE IN OFFICE IN THE FIRST PLACE!
“If you like your nuclear weapons program, you can keep your nuclear weapons program” - unfortunately, that’s one promise that Obama will keep.
But the Islamics on the other side won't keep promises. They lie because it is in their religion to lie to the Infidel. That gains them virgins in heaven.
This is all blatantly spelled out in the Bible. It doesn't end well for Israel's enemies, but it does appear that Israel is going to have their chain yanked pretty hard at some point. The only question is the timing of the events.
follows the plan for America to be week so the Anti-Christ can bring the one world government. Always knew Democrats would hand the keys to America over.
Domestic policy of this president has been nothing short of catastrophic, and his idea of compensating is turning foreign policy and national security into a catastrophe as well. He’ll go down in history as the most destructive president in history, but such history will likely have to be recorded on stone walls with burnt sticks.
Keep those three in mind, and everything The Won does makes perfect sense.
No better said weak because 0bummer wants us to be weak. Caliphate yes constitution no.
Historic. Game LOSER. Bye, bye, Ms. American Pie....!
I hereby apologize to Israel, on behalf of all REAL Americans. Many Americans suspect President Muhummad Al-Obama is a Kenyan, but few know Valerie Jarret, who secretly negotiated this deal, is Iranian. PERSIAN. Check Wikipedia or Google it.
She was born in Iran, but looking at the lineage of her parents, saying she’s Persian is like saying Ted Cruz is a Canuck.
Nevertheless, I feel her loyalties, like those of Al-Obama, as suspect.
The world is prepared to blame Netanyahu for striking Iran and the chaos that follows. History will blame Obama.
Oh heavens yes. She’s a life long member of the Chicago mob.
Trained by the notoriously crooked Harold Washington early on.
We can attack her on a thousand fronts, but being born in Iran was incidental to the story in my view.
If John Bolton is genuinely upset about this deal with Iran, he should simply pretend Iran is Kosovo, pretend Israel is Serbia, and go find something else to do with his time.
“The world is prepared to blame Netanyahu for striking Iran and the chaos that follows. History will blame Obama.”
History will be written by the victors. Unfortunately we can’t be certain the lovers of liberty will win the war we are already fighting. A hallowed out USA alone, with Obama or Hillary at the helm, cannot defeat Russia, China, North Korea, and the Muslim world acting in unison. Europe has no army, even if they would come to our defense. Even worse, less than half of the American people care.
Actually she was born in Iran of American parents. She’s not a Persian or Iranian. This is not to say she isn’t pro-Iranian and anti-American.
(According to Wikipedia)
VJ is actually connected to Saudi Prince Alwaleed (of Murdoch’s Newscorp), via Khalid Almansour, her father-in-law Vernon Jarrett and Frank Marshall Davis.
I’ve never seen anyone make as serious connection from VJ to an Iranian patron.
I do feel she is a security risk, in ways other foreign-born, like Ted Cruz, are not.
The Jewish vote went overwhelmingly for Obama.
They can all kiss my ass now.
Maybe Iran will nuke Israel and we can get the inevitable over with.
For a couple decades I’ve worn US flag shoulder patches and lapel pins. Just tell me when I should trade them for white ones? Maybe I need a French catalog to order from? Semper Fi
” . . and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed.” Daniel 11:27
America is weak because of weak leadership.
Don’t forget John Bolton was filibustered by the Rats because he stood up for America and only got to serve as UN ambassador for a year and a half as a recess appointment.
Of course we know now the Rats have no problem with filibusters as long as they’re the only ones doing them!
Even after throwing Israel to the wolves, the Rats know they have the majority of American Jewish votes locked up. It’s really pathetic.
John Bolton ping, thanks yoe.
You’ve got it.
America is weak because we flock to the polls and elect weak leaders, and reject and ridicule strong leaders. Repeatedly. And only half of Americans or less care enough to vote at all.
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Does the Obama administration think this deal will generate peace?
“Saudi prince to Iran: We wont sit idly by”
The Iranian negotiating team was mentored by the very successful North Korean negotiators, I suspect, if not directly then by example and easily observable history of what those negotiating with North Korea have demanded and what they actually accept - time after time - in an agreement.
This is something that has always intrigued me. The Jewish voters of America are the most Democrat voting constituency, the out-and-out kooky leftists of American culture and academia, the ones who paint conservative Americans as mouth-breathing troglodytes in the classroom and on the screen, are overwhelmingly Jewish yet US conservatives especially here in FreeRepublic kiss up to Israel like it was the last beacon of hope in the world.
I don’t get that, Israel is just one more country which, from time to time, might come in handy in a strategic alliance but which will at the end of the day do what suits it rather than what suits America as it is perfectly justified in doing.
What’s so goddamned special about Israel?
“Whats so goddamned special about Israel?”
That tells everyone at FR everything that need be known about you.
Go figure yourself. While the Jews denied Jesus' divinity, American fundamentalist Christians worship Israel because of some or other prophecy of Armageddon involving Israel, that's found in the Bible.
Does it? Pray tell.
I don’t understand how the US treats every other nation on planet earth in accordance with US interests but Israel is treated like it is some special American proxy.
The US owes Israel nothing in the same way it owes France nothing, Brazil nothing, Canada nothing or any other country but hey feel free to call me out if I fail to see why Israel gets a free pass.
Trust me Israelis aren’t too keen on US conservative Christians, just ask their co-religionists in the US.
You have a lot in common with Pat Buchanan.
Israel is the only democracy in the entire g-d’d Middle East and a firm U.S. ally, just for starters.
And when six million Arabs are surrounded by three hundred million screaming Jews, then I’ll sympathize with the Arabs.
And don’t forget our Prez’s strange new respect for the Iranian nuclear mullahs. That’ll do us a lot of good.
Between the Israelis, and hundreds of millions of Islamic savages howling for their blood and ours, I’ll choose the civilized ones!
One can not be a real Christian (”born again”, “true Christian”, etc) and be a Democrat, IMO.
Unless terminally and willfully stupid or totally brainwashed.
Anyway, we can rejoice that President Chamb..er, Obama has now “bought peace in our time.”
(those who do not learn from history.....repeat, repeat,...)