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In rural Kentucky, health-care debate takes back seat as the long-uninsured line up (for Medicaid)
Washington Post ^ | November 24, 2013 | Stephanie McCrummen

Posted on 11/24/2013 2:57:39 PM PST by Olog-hai

On the campaign trail, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell was still blasting the new health-care law as unsalvageable. At the White House, President Obama was still apologizing for the botched federal Web site.

But in a state where the rollout has gone smoothly, and in a county that is one of the poorest and unhealthiest in the country, Courtney Lively has been busy signing people up: cashiers from the IGA grocery, clerks from the dollar store, workers from the lock factory, call-center agents, laid-off coal miners, KFC cooks, Chinese green-card holders in town to teach Appalachian students. …

This is how things are going in Kentucky: As conservatives argued that the new health-care law will wreck the economy, as liberals argued it will save billions, as many Americans raged at losing old health plans and some analysts warned that a disproportionate influx of the sick and the poor could wreck the new health-care model, Lively was telling Noble something he did not expect to hear.

“All right,” she said. “We’ve got you eligible for Medicaid.” …

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: liberalpropaganda; medicaid; obamacare; zerocare

1 posted on 11/24/2013 2:57:40 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Soon we’ll all be on a single-payer government run healt care system, which was the ultimate goal of Obamacare.


2 posted on 11/24/2013 3:01:45 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo

Seems Governor Steve Beshear (D-KY)thinks the ACA is mom and apple pie.


3 posted on 11/24/2013 3:04:16 PM PST by Bronzy
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To: Olog-hai
note the source, more (B)arbara (S)treisand from WaPo.

4 posted on 11/24/2013 3:05:07 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi 8-)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Oh, I definitely believe they got people signed up for Medicaid, as has been the majority of signups, which of course will mean that their goal of signing up those healthy youngsters to pay for it will fall far short either way.


5 posted on 11/24/2013 3:08:01 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Yo-Yo

also any one over 50 with assets will be put on Medicaid because Medicaid goes after assets to fuel the medical industrial complex.


6 posted on 11/24/2013 3:10:25 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: Yo-Yo

geez...can you image what the clinics and hospitals would look like if the govt managed them...I would liken it to the TSA screeners providing me medical advice, checking me, prescribing me medication (probably wrong or inadequate), and walking away with the flu, but receiving an proctology exam!

oh-—maybe, I’m just over reacting...


7 posted on 11/24/2013 3:11:27 PM PST by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: Olog-hai

Of course the uninsured will sign up. Just heard that they also automatically get SNAP (food stamp program) once they qualify. A ‘free’ twofer.


8 posted on 11/24/2013 3:11:53 PM PST by masadaman
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To: Bronzy

Left out the link. Here it is: http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/DKY


9 posted on 11/24/2013 3:12:34 PM PST by Bronzy
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To: Olog-hai

About 70% of the healthcare signups in KY are going into Medicade, last time I checked.


10 posted on 11/24/2013 3:13:18 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Wash Post is missing the political math of ACA. How many will benefit and how many will be screwed to provide the benefit? I think more people will be screwed and less will benefit financially. Dumping it all on Medicaid is no help because the system will financially implode. The elderly already on it will be pissed. Add to that the ones who lost their individual policies and ones soon to lose their employer policies, while others in unions get taxed for their cadillac plans. The backlash will be great, and sadly the poor in this country will bear the brunt of it. Tough to be generous when the economy is in recession. That is how things are. Illegal immigrants will be next.


11 posted on 11/24/2013 3:21:51 PM PST by Fee
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According to the state website, 82% of the enrollment has been for Medicaid coverage.

http://www.wdrb.com/story/24026031/kynect-continues-to-grow-enrollment


12 posted on 11/24/2013 3:22:12 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Olog-hai
I agree, there are signups, how many are takers?
my sister signed-up..saw the $$$$, she said she
stopped the process..way too expensive.

13 posted on 11/24/2013 3:23:49 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi 8-)
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To: Fee

Can you explain to me how ACA sign ups differ from the Medicaid sign ups? It seems I’ve been reading more and more stories from the press claiming that these Medicaid sign ups are a sign of success for ACA


14 posted on 11/24/2013 3:29:10 PM PST by LMAO ("Begging hands and Bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"...Anthem from Rush)
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To: LMAO

I’ll bet there’s a huge stack of unprocessed but “accepted” new members on Medicaid. They’re counting these numbers as if the coverage has already been determined, but from everything I’ve ever seen with State Medicaid it takes forever for paperwork.


15 posted on 11/24/2013 3:36:25 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: ToastedHead

Seven days here if no additional documentation is required. My state does do income verification so it is possible that some of the enrollees would be disqualified after the fact. In those cases, the state does pursue collection of costs.


16 posted on 11/24/2013 3:44:38 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Olog-hai

Hurray for the redistribution of the fruits of labor!


17 posted on 11/24/2013 3:49:36 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: LMAO
Obamacare expanded Medicaid to include people with higher incomes. They're signing up mostly Medicaid recipients, which means it's not paid for. Add more to the Bank of China credit card.
18 posted on 11/24/2013 3:56:42 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

I thought there was a story a few days ago that said the bank of china cut up our credit card..


19 posted on 11/24/2013 4:28:06 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Olog-hai

Welcome to government regulation collective punishment so that the ruler punishes good and bad and disarms good and bad, to his own profits.

They love divisions and redistributions.


20 posted on 11/24/2013 4:29:24 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: Chickensoup

What is the name of the 1992 Bill that allowed Medicaid to go after any and all assets to recoup costs?


21 posted on 11/24/2013 4:49:41 PM PST by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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To: Olog-hai

Thanks for adding “For Medicaid” to the title.

Here in Washington state, completed applications are running about 5 to 1 in favor of Medicaid.


22 posted on 11/24/2013 4:50:18 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Olog-hai

That line’s going to be a LOT longer when hundreds, thousands and maybe even tens of thousands of folks start being killed by obamacare towards the end of January when they no longer have medical insurance or medical care from their doctors because obamacare cancelled their insurance and they were unable to obtain comparable insurance or medical care.

I’m talking about chronically ill people who are being kept alive by highly specialized treatments by highly specialized doctors in highly specialized treatment centers. You don’t treat cancer, hemophilia, cystic fibrosis, psoriatic arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, diabetes, heart disease, childhood genetic diseases, and thousands of other such diseases in the ER.

Those are the people who will truly suffer and die because their existing insurance has been cancelled and they are unable to sign up for new insurance , or unable to afford new insurance, or are offered only policies that no longer include their existing specialized care givers.

We need a new, non-profit organization formed to pay to have the poor souls who will start dying because of obamacare maintain a 24x7 vigil in front of the White House starting 1/1/2014.

That’ll get obamacare repealed faster than anything else.


23 posted on 11/24/2013 4:53:19 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: MacMattico
Re: “Obamacare expanded Medicaid to include people with higher incomes.”

It also expanded other categories.

In most states, able bodied adults were not eligible for Medicaid, regardless of income.

That has now changed.

If any individual or any family earns less than 133% of the poverty level, they are now eligible (there might be a cash savings limit, too).

Here in Washington state, any individual earning $15,000 or less is eligible for Medicaid.

24 posted on 11/24/2013 5:00:40 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: steve86

Wow, that 7 day time frame, is that from the time the paperwork is processed to the time the computers are updated for claims processing? I’d have people waiting weeks to get a claim paid (Virginia) just for some small change, not an actual enrollment.


25 posted on 11/24/2013 5:04:33 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: griswold3

http://aspe.hhs.gov/daltcp/reports/estaterec.htm

Medicaid recovery of monies from assets


26 posted on 11/24/2013 5:11:36 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: catnipman

So it was really Alan Grayson that wanted people to “die quickly”. Grayson will be wearing those words on his tombstone . . . “He Died Quickly.”


27 posted on 11/24/2013 5:27:12 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Governor Steve Beshear is leaving the next governor of Kentucky a big financial mess to clean up. Kentucky doesn’t have the money to fund the expanded medicaid enrollment that obamacare is creating.


28 posted on 11/24/2013 5:51:20 PM PST by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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To: Chickensoup

Thanks for the link.


29 posted on 11/24/2013 5:56:30 PM PST by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: Olog-hai

Medicaid is barely Healthcare. Very few doctors participate and it is not free. People were better off just showing up at then ER.


30 posted on 11/24/2013 5:58:20 PM PST by dforest
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To: ToastedHead

Yes, it could be close to that if the application was around the 20th of the month; the coverage would never begin until the first of the next month. It would not be uncommon for people to walk into the Washington State DSHS office the third week of the month and experience just that scenario.


31 posted on 11/24/2013 6:00:43 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Chickensoup

People have no idea. Every dollar spent by Medicaid - the government will go after everything when you die. Medicaid spends $100,000 for your surgery or your nursing home care? They’ll take your house, your furniture and your bank accounts. The heirs are going to be shocked.


32 posted on 11/24/2013 6:05:25 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

I expect Medicare is going to do this at some point too.


33 posted on 11/24/2013 6:08:31 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: catnipman

Purty easy to see Ohanky and the Rats want the weak and sickly to kick the bucket first.

Who’s Next?


34 posted on 11/24/2013 8:35:15 PM PST by Gasshog (0bama: 146 rounds of Golf and counting... FORE!!!!!WARD!!! -___O)
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