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Poll: If voters had known they’d lose insurance, Romney would have won
Daily Caller ^ | November 22, 2013 | Alexis Levinson

Posted on 11/25/2013 7:52:35 PM PST by grundle

If voters had been aware last year that they might lose their health-care plans when Obamacare went into effect, Republican President Mitt Romney would be sitting in the White House today, according to a poll released Friday.

A Wilson Perkins Allen Opinion Research survey conducted from Nov. 18-20 asked voters who supported President Barack Obama in 2012: “As you may know, millions of Americans have lost their insurance plans despite President Obama’s promise that, quote, ‘if you like your plan, you can keep it.’ If you knew in 2012 that this promise was not true, would you still have voted for Barack Obama?”

In response, 23 percent said they would not have voted to re-elect Obama, while 72 percent said they would still have voted for him. The largest number of defections were among female voters ages 18-54, 31 percent of whom said they would not have supported the president.

An ABC/Washington Post poll released earlier this week found that if they had a do-over, Romney would win 49 percent to 45 percent. The difference is within the margin of error of 3.5 percentage points, but Obama polls a lower percentage of the vote today than he did in November 2012.

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KEYWORDS: 2012; milt; obamacare; polls; romney
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1 posted on 11/25/2013 7:52:35 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

Voters did know.

They didn’t care.

...till they discovered that it would effect them personally, that is...


2 posted on 11/25/2013 7:53:53 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: grundle

A nation of gullible b@star@ds. It was clear as day but voters fell for the easy lies instead of thinking for themselves.


3 posted on 11/25/2013 7:54:03 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: grundle

and if the fox hadn’t stop to $hit...He’d have caught the rabbit

Film at 11....


4 posted on 11/25/2013 7:54:57 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: grundle

that’s why the law was timed the way it was. the whole stinkin’ law has been timed to go off around elections, but I think it has finally caught up to them.


5 posted on 11/25/2013 7:55:10 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: ilgipper

Bump!


6 posted on 11/25/2013 7:56:13 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: grundle

If my aunt had gonads, she's be my uncle. You don't get do-overs in national elections.

7 posted on 11/25/2013 7:56:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: grundle
Maybe if the press had done even half their job instead of gazing lovingly at the Won, begging for a chance to touch the hem of his robe.
8 posted on 11/25/2013 7:58:34 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: grundle

If voters didn’t have the IQ of a toilet seat, they would have known this was the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on any people throughout all history.


9 posted on 11/25/2013 8:00:01 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: grundle

The 2012 campaign a review http://www.theusmat.com/


10 posted on 11/25/2013 8:00:10 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: grundle

“If voters had known they’d lose insurance, Romney would have won”

That and 2 dollars will buy you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.


11 posted on 11/25/2013 8:00:26 PM PST by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: grundle

oh, I dunno. romney was a pretty huge disaster as a candidate.

short of BHO getting caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy, I’m not sure anything could have saved him.


12 posted on 11/25/2013 8:01:00 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: grundle

Romney was the worst possible opponent to achieve that, since Obamacare was based on Romneycare.


13 posted on 11/25/2013 8:01:29 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: grundle
If voters had known...

So, what we're saying is that Romney ran a lousy campaign.

I agree with that.

14 posted on 11/25/2013 8:03:36 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: grundle

He lied his way into office in 2008, so why would we expect he would do differently the second time?

Candy Crowley and her friends gave him an extra boost, too.


15 posted on 11/25/2013 8:03:48 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (What happened to my tagline??)
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To: grundle

So, the best predictor of future performance is the person’s past performance? Turns out Mr. “I vote ‘Present’” doesn’t know what he’s doing? Maybe he can ask his real estate agent friend Valerie what to do.
“Paint it beige.”


16 posted on 11/25/2013 8:06:14 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: CriticalJ
That and 2 dollars will buy you a cup of coffee asphalt remover at Starbucks.
17 posted on 11/25/2013 8:07:03 PM PST by digger48
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To: grundle

72% would still vote for him even with the obamacare disaster.

Amazing.


18 posted on 11/25/2013 8:07:53 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (What happened to my tagline??)
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To: grundle

Romney thought he could run strictly on the economy, and win. He was wrong.


19 posted on 11/25/2013 8:09:49 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Tzimisce

“Voters did know.”

No, I don’t think they did. We don’t call them “low information voters” for nothing. And all they heard, the sum and entirety of the message the vast, uninformed, uninterested, non-wonky, unpolitical, etc. public heard re: Obamacare, from their PRESIDENT, and the MSM was: If you like your plan you can keep your plan.

Obama lied, the media was complicit.

SHOULD they have known? Sure, but they would have had to research it on their own. And they’d had so many reassurances why would they feel the need? Everyone who had insurance thought there would be no change for them.

And the way the media is acting they didn’t know either.

Ad that is one of the greatest lies of all time.


20 posted on 11/25/2013 8:10:33 PM PST by jocon307
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To: Tzimisce
Voters did know.

They didn’t care.


IMO, Voters didn't care to know.
21 posted on 11/25/2013 8:11:34 PM PST by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: ilgipper

Had Romney been elected, we would have R’s busily “fixing” Obamacare so that it is not quite as painful and it would never go away.


22 posted on 11/25/2013 8:13:33 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Girlene

BHO - Elected on a Lie!

What a fitting epitaph!


23 posted on 11/25/2013 8:18:45 PM PST by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: ilgipper

“A nation of gullible b@star@ds. It was clear as day but voters fell for the easy lies instead of thinking for themselves.”

The voters were thinking OF THEMSELVES. They don’t know how to THINK FOR THEMSELVES. Gibbsmedats come in all flavors.


24 posted on 11/25/2013 8:19:08 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid; Girlene
BHO - Elected on a Lie
And his life was a lie.
25 posted on 11/25/2013 8:23:47 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: grundle

Before the primaries were half over I named Romney among the few in the Republican race guaranteed to lose an election to Obama. For pity sake, he couldn't even beat McCain the prior election cycle -- he took 3rd seat. If you can't beat McCain (who would have lost in a landslide had it not been for Palin), there's just no chance at beating "that One". Given the choice between socialism-republican and socialism-democrat, the democrat wins every time. We knew. And we're better off today talking about repealing Obamacare than having it blow up during a Romney presidency (which was the plan) so the Republicans can forever be labeled has having screwed it up and resign themselves to fixing it.


26 posted on 11/25/2013 8:31:18 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: grundle

This is not aimed at you grundle. Actually it wasn’t the people that voted for 0bama that got him reelected. It was the people who sat at home and didn’t vote for Romney because he wasn’t enough of this or enough of that. He wasn’t my choice either but I supported him once he got the nomination and voted for him. To all of you who stayed home, I hope you lost your plan. The establishment GOP sux. But the dems suk more. I hope you are pleased with what you accomplished by sitting at home.


27 posted on 11/25/2013 8:32:49 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: grundle

“What difference would it make?”


28 posted on 11/25/2013 8:35:46 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Jane Long; Hillary'sMoralVoid

Agree.
Lying is second nature to that man. In fact, sometimes I don’t think he even knows he’s lying. He seems to think if he says it...it is true.


29 posted on 11/25/2013 8:43:36 PM PST by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: grundle

If Romney had won the election, the story in the media would be how he had messed up the rollout of healthcare that the previous IT-savvy president has so carefully crafted.


30 posted on 11/25/2013 9:09:22 PM PST by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

An insult to hard working toilet seats everywhere.


31 posted on 11/25/2013 9:09:54 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Ray76; grundle
“What difference would it make?”

In this case, sadly, probably not much.
32 posted on 11/25/2013 9:16:08 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Jane Long
BHO - Elected on a Lie
And his life was a lie.


Our problem was that "our" candidate came in a close 2nd in the lying department.

Romney built his career on lying and on being on both sides of every issue and then lying about that.
33 posted on 11/25/2013 9:17:35 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Cicero
Romney was the worst possible opponent to achieve that, since Obamacare was based on Romneycare.

Yep.

34 posted on 11/25/2013 9:18:02 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: jocon307

I have a “friend” who voted both times for the zero. She is thrilled that she will be getting obamacare - well, Medicaid because she has a lot of health issues and low income. However, I told her with her health issues - it was just a matter of time until they started rationing care. She doesn’t believe me and doesn’t seem to care how this boondoggie of a bill has hurt the majority of Americans - as long as she gets her Medicaid FREE. This is what we’re up against! She might sing a different tune if they start rationing her health care. Time will tell, but for now - she’s happy she is getting free Medicaid and couldn’t wait to sign up for it. Sorry to say - she has what I call the welfare mentality.


35 posted on 11/25/2013 9:22:33 PM PST by Catsrus (A)
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To: grundle

People are foolish. What did they think would happen to their insurance once this fascist abomination became law? Now that they’ve lost their insurance, they are going to pay a lot more for Obamacare, if they can afford to do it. If they can pay anywhere from twice to three times as much as they were paying, they are going to discover that they also have to pay higher co-pays and deductibles. The latter is going to be a lot higher than what they were paying. I hope they hate what Obama and the fascist Democrats have done to them.


36 posted on 11/25/2013 9:23:58 PM PST by pallis
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To: M-cubed

LOL.
And if my aunt had wheels, she’d be a taxi.

Someone call a cab and send Barry back to Chicago. South Side.


37 posted on 11/25/2013 9:47:08 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: grundle
The real unemployment numbers have been hidden and manipulated. We are between 12 and 20 percent unemployment today based on the state you are in.

No one could still go through Obamacare to know what to campaign against during the last election.

Government employees through their unions still sending nearly a billion or more to Obama and Democrat campaigns in exchange for huge salaries, benefits and retirements.

A press that covers for one party and the first black guy in office over frying any and all oppositions to Democrats.

Gee, how is it any nondemocrat could ever win anyway under these current conditions?

38 posted on 11/25/2013 9:52:04 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Catsrus

You are right, of course. People are short-sighted.

Is she newly qualified for Medicaid? And is she for sure getting it?

Because single people don’t get a lot from the gov’t.

I’ve done tax prep work and you can talk about the rich and the poor but it seems to me we balance our budget “on the backs” of single persons.


39 posted on 11/25/2013 9:54:55 PM PST by jocon307
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To: grundle

Woulda, coulda, shoulda. It’s all over now but the crying. Elections do have consequences. Some of them are fatal.


40 posted on 11/25/2013 10:29:49 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my health insurance policy?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Romney was the candidate because HE put Obama in, in
2008, but having his surrogates attack Gov. Palin.

The rat Romney is responsible
BOTH for the pRes_ _ent, and his
RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE, and for gay marriage.


41 posted on 11/25/2013 10:43:04 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: grundle
If.

If people had known...

If people weren't stupid neither 0bama nor Romney would have ever held any public office.

42 posted on 11/25/2013 11:00:33 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What state does your “aunt” and uncle live in?
If auntie had gonads she could not legally be your aunt anyway...in most states as of yet.. anyway..

:-)


43 posted on 11/25/2013 11:20:24 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: JSteff

Confusion, right on the border with Chaos and Hysteria.


44 posted on 11/25/2013 11:23:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: xzins
Whatever the excuse, if 4 MILLION conservatives had not stayed home and would have voted for the conservative against Dr. O we would not be in this mess.
4 million votes would have given a loss that would have had him seeking solace at the Chicago Turkish (gay) bath with Reggie and some weed.
Incredible picture huh?
45 posted on 11/25/2013 11:25:32 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
EXCELLENT POST! My sentiments exactly. Too many consevatives acted like they were just voting for most popular at a high school dance.

4 million stayed home. Real shame for our republic... will it be here for the next election, or with 1 to 3 SCOTUS appointments, and a senate with no ability to override the rules they just passed, and with as many executive orders as he wants or can get past SCOTUS... will we even have an election as we have known them to be?

Pray for the republic of the founders.
46 posted on 11/25/2013 11:36:50 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: SoConPubbie
Our problem was that "our" candidate came in a close 2nd in the lying department.

And so the bottom line is you are saying what....?
It is better obama is president now?
That make a whole lot of sense /NOT
47 posted on 11/25/2013 11:40:48 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: Moonman62
No, INCORRECT. Even Romney said that worked for a small state was probably not best for the US as a whole and it WOULD be revisited before it was upheld. Go back and look at the debate and pressers before and after the debate.

But if you know you made a bad decision to not vote for Romney and this makes you feel better.. then keep telling it to yourself every night before you sleep and you'll feel fine by morning.

Now what about the 1 to 3 appointments o will get to SCOTUS? Can you say there is NO chance Romney would have put on 1 to 3 leftists? Or there is the chance he might have been swayed not to pack the courts with the liberals?

Then you can NOT sleep well ever, cause that is what is going to happen and I can assure you of that.

The senate was just a for runner of what lies ahead and it is NOT pretty.

Sleep well..
48 posted on 11/25/2013 11:53:42 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL thanks!


49 posted on 11/25/2013 11:54:59 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: JSteff
No, INCORRECT. Even Romney said that worked for a small state was probably not best for the US as a whole and it WOULD be revisited before it was upheld.

Last I read, Romneycare wasn't working in the small state either. Romney was a terrible candidate. Take your complaint to the GOP Elite.

50 posted on 11/26/2013 12:11:43 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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