Posted on 11/26/2013 7:40:01 AM PST by cunning_fish
MOSCOW AND BOSTON — Lee Harvey Oswald’s Russian was still shaky in 1961, when he was working as a factory metalworker in the provincial Soviet city of Minsk. It fell to a young student engineer named Stanislav Shushkevich to help him out.
"He was a simple martinet, and I found nothing in common with him. His Russian at that point was passable. We had about a dozen lessons in all, after that we had no contacts,” Mr.Shushkevich told the Monitor in an interview. “My main concern later on was that he would be given the task of fabricating equipment I had designed, because he was such a terrible metalworker.
"When I learned later on about Kennedy's murder, and that Oswald was involved, I was thunderstruck. I even wondered ‘How could I have lost interest in this person? Maybe I don't understand people at all?’ " said Shushkevich, who later became the first president of independent Belarus.
As the US revisits that breathtaking moment on Nov. 22, 1963, attention is again turning to Oswald’s time in the Soviet Union – a 30-month period that ended a year before President John F. Kennedy’s assassination, a journey that left him with a Russian wife but disillusioned about socialism.
Although any evidence of panic in the Kremlin remains buried in classified Politburo archives, historians say there seems little doubt that Soviet leaders must have scrambled for explanations after Oswald was named as Kennedy's killer. “The Kennedy assassination struck like a bolt from the blue, it shook up both sides,” says Valery Garbuzov, deputy director of the official Institute of USA-Canada Studies in Moscow. “We felt more than regret. We began a long process of dialogue, meetings, and negotiations. Things were not the same after th..
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But... those in his way are dead meat. Even his own mother.
So.... Holder modeled his DOJ after RFK's ?
good observation.
but at least RFK’s justice department actually put away some actual bad guys. they did it because of RFK’s corruption, but, undeniably, they put away some bad guys.
holder is just a ghetto thug.
It’s refreshing seeing someone talking sense on this emotional issue.
And a noob! Welcome to FR.
Thanks!
The KGB considered Oswald to be an “imbecile”.
Not according to the locals in Minsk I talked to! I automatically assumed it was cheap vodka, but who knows?
The autopsy and many tests of that rifle and it's ammo lead to the conclusion that the wounds all came from behind and hit exactly where pictured and exited in the normal path with the expected type of damage one would expected from those shots. Whether Oswald worked for the CIA is still open, but he definitely did the shooting.
Well, I suspect they were pulling your chain, because Oswald was a well known teetotaler.
He was a motivated Marine.
The scenes where Gunny Hartman tells of what “one motivated Marine and his rifle can do” and when Gunny finds the jelly donut are the two best scenes in the movie.
Maybe Oswald was reciting the rifleman’s creed as he squeezed off those rounds. Being a commie and in the Marine Corps must have been tough. Have to imagine they were beating the crap out of him a lot.
The stupidiest thing that I have seen/heard during this 50th anniversary news cycle came from NPR. Where they were reporting on what Dallas was like leading up to the Kennedy assination. How they were all a bunch of right wingers and the city of Dallas “practically put the rifle in Oswalds hand”. That’s almost an exact quote. In the whole report, there was no mention of the fact that Oswald was a committed communist.
I watched CBS’ coverage with Cronkite over the weekend as they had a stream of the events as it happened, you could just tell Cronkite was pained when he admitted it was a Marxist that killed Kennedy.
HARTMAN: Do any of you people know who Charles Whitman was? None of you dumbasses knows? Private Cowboy?
COWBOY: Sir, he was that guy who shot all those people from that tower in Austin, Texas, sir!
HARTMAN: That’s affirmative. Charles Whitman killed twelve people from a twenty-eight-story observation tower at the University of Texas from distances up to four hundred yards. Anybody know who Lee Harvey Oswald was? Private Snowball?
SNOWBALL: Sir, he shot Kennedy, sir!
HARTMAN: That’s right, and do you know how far away he was?
SNOWBALL: Sir, it was pretty far! From that book suppository building, sir!
HARTMAN: All right, knock it off! Two hundred and fifty feet! He was two hundred and fifty feet away and shooting at a moving target. Oswald got off three rounds with an old Italian bolt action rifle in only six seconds and scored two hits, including a head shot! Do any of you people know where these individuals learned to shoot? Private Joker?
JOKER: Sir, in the Marines, sir!
HARTMAN: In the Marines! Outstanding! Those individuals showed what one motivated marine and his rifle can do! And before you ladies leave my island, you will be able to do the same thing!
Gunny Hartman was so proud of the fact those two learned their skills in the Marine Corps. What makes the grass grow? Blood! Blood! Blood!
I think what ruined that movie was the second part about Vietnam. They should have just made it a boot camp movie and ended it there. That squad from 2/5 had to be the most undisciplined squad in the Marine Corps. Just like that stupid book/movie Jarhead. Any of those guys in 7th Marines during the Gulf War should shoot Anthony Swofford on sight for his portrayal of them as a bunch of undisciplined idiots.
How so? Chances are the rifle was sighted in at 100 yards and the scope was paralax zeugma "For multiple shots, with the rifle he used, it becomes trickier."
How so? Chances are the rifle was sighted in at 100 yards and the scope was paralax free at 100 yards and the closer he got to 100 yards he should be more accurate.
Multiple shots should mean (at least in my experience) that you get better with each shot fired at the target. Which is exactly what happened. The third shot being the killing head shot. free at 100 yards and the closer he got to 100 yards he should be more accurate.
Multiple shots should mean (at least in my experience) that you get better with each shot fired at the target. Which is exactly what happened. The third shot being the killing head shot.
The speed at which Oswald fired three shots with a bolt-action rifle and kept the scope on target is what impresses me. Most rifle bolts require some force to either open and extract a shell, or feed a round and force it shut, because the spring-loaded firing pin is cocked either on opening or closing. During that time, it is easy to jostle the rifle, throwing off the aim. After the recoil of each shot, the sight picture would have to be reacquired.
Don’t be so sure about Oswald. I doubt the “typical clueless liberal/commie” would marry a KGB wife, use a lot of KGB codewords, and undergo an entire character reinvention. And I’d know, because George Lucas didn’t do that and he’s pretty much as big of a clueless liberal/commie as one can get, including praising Soviet filmmaking during the height of the Cold War. Besides, let’s not forget that the USSR recruited and trained the Weather Underground. And don’t think that LHO couldn’t have been tasked by the KGB and USSR to kill JFK, or Castro tasking him to do so, for that matter. If they can come up with a disinformation story pinning the murder of JFK on right-wingers, CIA agents, and even LBJ and suspiciously time it the night of JFK’s murder, I am willing to bet they can do exactly that. We already know that they were responsible for a few other stuff as well.
And another thing: Don’t think the USSR has to be fans of LHO to use him for the deed. Technically, none of the guys at the USSR would have particularly liked Che Guevara after his botching Cuba and his misadventures harming Communism (to say little about how he nearly caused a nuclear war, which even Khrushchev balked at), yet that never stopped them from using his death as propaganda purposes for the left wing and trying to use him to revive revolution.
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