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Conservatives should stop defending Pentagon waste and fraud
Washington Examiner ^ | Nov 22 2013 | VERONIQUE DE RUGY |

Posted on 11/26/2013 10:21:54 PM PST by WilliamIII

How can some policymakers claim to be fiscal conservatives when they won’t allow small spending cuts to the defense budget to go through?

We've seen that the “sky is falling” predictions about sequestration haven't materialize. Yet lawmakers in both houses of Congress are still seeking to at least partially undo the spending reductions in the Budget Control Act of 2011, despite evidence the Pentagon is wasting taxpayer dollars on overly expensive -- and arguably unnecessary -- projects.

A recent amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act by Republican Sens. James Inhofe, R-Okla., John McCain, R-Ariz., and Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., attempts to mitigate sequestration’s impact on the Pentagon by stretching the reductions out over the next eight years.

According to Congressional Quarterly, their amendment "would raise the cap on defense spending in fiscal 2014 from $498 billion to $524 billion and lower the annual increase in defense spending between fiscal 2015 and fiscal 2021 from 2.5 percent to 1 percent, significantly below expected gross domestic product growth during the same period.”

Considering the inability of current policymakers to impose spending restraint on future congresses, trading actual cuts today for unlikely slower growth in spending tomorrow would be best described as a “dessert today, spinach tomorrow” plan.

Besides, for all the complaints about how the defense caps and sequester cuts are hurting our ability to defend the nation, there is a substantial and well-documented amount of evidence that there is a lot of waste and abuse in the Department of Defense.

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1 posted on 11/26/2013 10:21:54 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

The Pentagon needs to stop defending ( and promoting ) the stupid Rules of Engagement (ROE’s) that are getting our troops killed and eliminating any possibility of VICTORY .

Dump the JAGs and defy Obama


2 posted on 11/26/2013 10:27:15 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: WilliamIII

Cutting tricare, dropping stars and stripes, and abusing the troops doesn’t cut “fraud and waste”.
The sequestration is Obama’s baby, he fought hard for it.
The cutting that is going on is in the wrong places.


3 posted on 11/26/2013 10:30:07 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: WilliamIII

I do not defend ACTUAL waste & fraud.


4 posted on 11/26/2013 10:33:11 PM PST by Republican1795.
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To: WilliamIII

About 15 years ago, I read an article in the Stars and Stripes in which DoD admitted that it could not account for $20 billion in spending. It just disappeared.


5 posted on 11/26/2013 10:40:44 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: WilliamIII

One hundred years ago, the Royal Navy, the largest in the world, had one drydock. The United States Navy,the 3rd largest, had 18.


6 posted on 11/26/2013 10:42:54 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: WilliamIII

Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but as big of a problem as military spending waste and fraud is,the bigger problem is weapons systems they don’t need.

Are there not a lot of things the military is forced to try to use simply because they’re made in this or that congressman’s district?


7 posted on 11/26/2013 10:49:03 PM PST by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: WilliamIII

I didn’t see the Tea Party flinch when the sequester was enacted. It seems to be the GOPe, with the corporate connections, who want to restore funding.


8 posted on 11/26/2013 10:49:43 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Darksheare

It’s the military equivalent of the “cut police and teachers first” strategy used by local pols when voters refuse to increase taxes. I have to believe the Pentagon could eliminate 10% of their desk jobs and still function.


9 posted on 11/26/2013 11:21:26 PM PST by Hugin ( More firepower1)
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To: Hugin

Maybe even 35% of desk jobs.
There’s an amazing amount of duplication at that level.
Almost expect to hear the Yesmen in stereo in the hallways.
Agreed, same strategy.
Then shift what funding remains into other supposedly “necessary” things where it will never be freed up.
Then insist taxes must go up to cover what got cut.
Then cut again, demand more taxes..


10 posted on 11/26/2013 11:28:40 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: WilliamIII

All budgets need to be cut radically, including the Defense budget.


11 posted on 11/27/2013 12:00:39 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: wolfpat

of course. it all becomes local after awhile.


12 posted on 11/27/2013 12:28:41 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Darksheare

But the real waste problem lies the the lap of Guess Who? Congress.

Virtually every dollar authorized and appropriated is in a budget line and can’t be spent on anything but that without going back to Congress and saying “Mother, may I?”

TC


13 posted on 11/27/2013 2:13:25 AM PST by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: RobbyS

Could have gone to the development of the SR-72...:)

Black funds and all...

Seriously, though...before a single penny of waste in defense spending is cut because it is wasteful, I would demand the same scrutiny of EVERY entitlement program.

Conservatives are like Charlie Brown trying to kick Lucy’s football.

They say “We will cut spending one ***INSERT NON-LIBERAL PROGRAM HERE***, and will follow up with cuts in ***INSERT LIBERAL PROGRAM HERE***”

But the liberal program cuts never happen.


14 posted on 11/27/2013 3:30:39 AM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: RobbyS

Of course, when it came time to produce for a war we had to produce for to win, those 18 dry-docks came in quite handy.


15 posted on 11/27/2013 3:32:38 AM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: WilliamIII

“We’ve seen that the “sky is falling” predictions about sequestration haven’t materialize.”

Without going into details, as someone who works every day in Army sustainment I think the author of this piece is full of s**t.


16 posted on 11/27/2013 3:52:20 AM PST by XRdsRev (New Jersey - Crossroads of the American Revolution)
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To: RobbyS
One hundred years ago, the Royal Navy, the largest in the world, had one drydock. The United States Navy, the 3rd largest, had 18.

England covers a total of 50,346 square miles.
The State of Georgia covers 59,441 square miles.

Did that total of only one drydock include the colonies?

India, Australia, Canada, etc?

17 posted on 11/27/2013 4:14:34 AM PST by BwanaNdege (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. J.F. Kennedy)
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To: RobbyS

The United States has coast 2000 miles apart with no easy way to get from one side to the next.

Of course we would have more dry docks. That is a poor example of waste.

Then when a little thing called WWI showed up, which Navy was able to resupply the other?

At the end of WWII we had the most powerful military the world had ever seen, yet a few years later when the Korean war showed up, we were understaffed, under equipped, under trained. All that money “saved” ended up costing more in treasury and blood.


18 posted on 11/27/2013 4:29:29 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Better that we waste some money in the name of freedom than the slavery of the Liberal agenda.


19 posted on 11/27/2013 4:46:57 AM PST by billhilly (Has Pelosi read it yet?)
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To: Hugin
It’s the military equivalent of the “cut police and teachers first” strategy used by local pols when voters refuse to increase taxes. I have to believe the Pentagon could eliminate 10% of their desk jobs and still function.

Exactly right.

Nobody in Washington gives a fig about taxpayers except for how much money they can bleed out of us.

20 posted on 11/27/2013 5:49:03 AM PST by EricT. (Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. Big brother is watching you.)
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