Skip to comments.Traditional family roles rule again in Germany
Posted on 11/27/2013 12:33:54 AM PST by Olog-hai
Stay-at-home mums cooking lunch for the children while dads earn the moneyGermans opinions on gender roles are more conservative today than they were in the 1990s, a survey revealed on Monday.
Today just under half of women (48 percent) could imagine their husband taking a step back in his career to enable them to further their own, the Tagesspiegel reported. Back in 1993, the number was 54 percent who thought such a thing likely.
Men have also hardened their views, with today 40 percent said they could see themselves putting a dent in their career to help their partners, while the figure was 47 percent in 1993.
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I was assigned in Germany from 1989-92 in a relatively conservative region (Baden-Württemberg) and noticed the prevalence of stay-at-home moms and wives, even among the younger generations. Probably was different in more liberal climes such as Berlin or Hamburg, though.
“I was assigned in Germany from 1989-92 in a relatively conservative region (Baden-Württemberg) and noticed the prevalence of stay-at-home moms and wives, even among the younger generations.”
I was watching a documentary called “Make Me A German”, made by a British filmmaker. He spent a period of time working in Germany, and noted how while 2/3 of British mothers worked, only 1/3 of German mothers did. He also said the Germans had a derogatory term for working mothers; there was still a stigma to it.
I wonder if these changes correlate in any way with the increase in Moslem population.
Foreign women working in Germany are most often who you'd see working after child birth.
My issue isn't that women shouldn't take time off... but that employers are on the hook for this. Employers will grill younger women about personal issues, relationships when they'll start a family etc.... because they don't want to hire and train someone only to lose them to pregnancy, and then have to hold a job open for them for 3 years. So the govt good intention has gone completely ary. Women find themselves discriminated against because of these inane laws.
Germany’s getting serious again after decades in the American play yard. Another reason why they are succeeding and the US is collapsing.
I saw that. Everything was exaggerated to the point of (unintentional, I believe) satire. Not a very good effort at realistic portrayal.
I got burned by that once, and I resented the woman for doing it. I’ve hired women before, but because the company doesn’t pay competitive salaries I often had older applicants (of all colors and both genders, who worked out just fine - I like their work ethic, and am willing to train). At one point I had an opening, and a 30 year-old woman from another department wanted the job. She was a good worker, but took the job knowing she was already pregnant and going on maternity leave (but didn’t say so). I was already working extra hours (unpaid) because of the vacancy she was filling, and ending up getting stuck with months more of the same. I had the option to get rid of her anyway (as a small department we could win a hardship case in court), but let her come back and eventually quit because she couldn’t juggle family with work (she was always missing work and leaving early - she basically resigned).
I won’t make that mistake again (and I’m pro-family). My wife has traded off better pay for flexibility that lets her work part-time while raising children.
“I saw that. Everything was exaggerated to the point of (unintentional, I believe) satire. Not a very good effort at realistic portrayal.”
I don’t know about that; Americans I know who lived/worked in Germany were impressed by the experience. Karl Marx always thought the revolution he dreamed of would happen in Germany because they had an educated working class; British workers envied the rights of German workers on the eve of WWI. In the end, Germany did have a Bolshevik uprising that forced the abdication of the Kaiser and ended WWI.
I don’t know why a British filmmaker would lie about the whole thing; in the EU today Germany dominates Britain economically in the same way they sought by arms before.
I dont know why a British filmmaker would lie about the whole thing; in the EU today Germany dominates Britain economically in the same way they sought by arms before.
I was not referring to the greater historical context but to the little things of everyday life in Germany as portrayed in the film - that seemed somewhat distorted. I cannot provide specific details as I've already deleted the film, but I do recall that that was my overall impression. Realism must not have been the number one priority of the film makers (not catering to prejudices would've been too boring for viewers, I guess).
I see. The statistic about working mothers, if true, would certainly indicate a different culture. At the same time, I understand Germans don’t have a very high birthrate.
They probably correlate better with the revival of the German population.
Depends on which “Germans” they interviewed.