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Hanukkah, Coney Island, Knockout and Iran
Jewish Press ^ | November 25th, 2013 | Rabbi Reuven Kahane

Posted on 11/27/2013 5:33:56 AM PST by SJackson

Years ago, on a perfect Hanukkah day, my brother and I were getting off the Coney Island bumper cars on the way to kosher country, when we heard "Dirty Jews!"

Before having a chance to react in anger or fear, two boys were running full speed away from us.

Knowing they were not running from a 7-year-old in a plaid shirt or his slow moving 11-year-old brother, I imagined that the hand of God had descended from the cyclone. But, spotting a speeding Judah Maccabee chasing down those thugs, to my amazement and some chagrin, the Maccabee was none other than my usually passive intellectual of a dad. He held the boys hard by the collars against the screaming protestations of their own bigger and way meaner looking dad, who was screaming "Let my boys go or else!"

My dad did not budge, finally releasing the two to cops who happened to be walking by.

I learned perseverance and Jewish pride at that moment, but confidence was the day’s greatest lesson. Not the confidence of physical strength, which my dad took no pride in, not confidence in the 1970s NYPD, which did not exist. It was the simple, undeniable yet taken for granted confidence of a proud Jew. We are your equals, we are here, we have a state of our own, so, in NYC parlance, F*** you.

Rewind to a Coney Island before the establishment of the State of Israel, and I’m sure a very different story would have been told: our own collars held by a timid father forcing an apology from his own sons. “We are so sorry for wearing our kippot on the bumper cars thank you for calling us dirty Jews please, feel free to do it again at the Ferris wheel”

Which brings us to the double knockout weekend.

Knockout #1 took place last Friday in Crown Heights, when a religious photo intern got knocked down. “A 100 lb little Jew” as Israel Blizovsky described himself, punched for the fun of it... Ha ha. City Government’s nonchalant response was pretty close to What’s the big deal, you Jews worry too much.

Knockout # 2 took place on the other side of the globe, in the Genteel city of Geneva, where diplomats, not thugs, knocked down Israel a peg or two while dismissing the Jewish State’s existential threat with the same What’s the big deal, you Jews worry too much.

Over thanksgiving and Christmas, let us hope that the nations of the world will continue to support the idea of an independent and secure Jewish nation, a nation that will sometimes be battered, sometimes bruised but with its own pride and the means to always get back up.

As we put our faith in these nations, especially our greatest friend the United States of America, we must remember the central lesson of Hanukkah; never rely on others or on miracles, but when our very existence is in the balance, we must be prepared to fight a lonely battle to victory.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Israel
KEYWORDS: chanukah; coneyisland; hanukkah; iran; israel; knockoutgame; thanksgiving

1 posted on 11/27/2013 5:33:56 AM PST by SJackson
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2 posted on 11/27/2013 5:34:12 AM PST by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: SJackson

But yet the Jews rely on the Democrat Party as if it were their link to life.


3 posted on 11/27/2013 5:36:49 AM PST by TennTuxedo
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To: TennTuxedo

Slowly but surely most Jews will come to realize the inherent danger and true nature of the Democratic Party.


4 posted on 11/27/2013 5:51:40 AM PST by allendale
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To: TennTuxedo
Jews can be useful idiots, just like every other ethnic/religious group.

My advice: become aware of what is going on around you, think for yourself, act accordingly.

5 posted on 11/27/2013 5:52:33 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: All

well, lets do this first. can we be honest? can we call a spade a spade? Obama is the face of American power, he may or may not be a muslim, he may or may not use his half black side as his trump, but American jews wield great power, and if anyone has allowed Obama to desert Israel, they should be first in line to take the blame.

now, with that said, i’m not sure who this guy thinks he’s looking to blame.


6 posted on 11/27/2013 5:54:10 AM PST by willywill
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To: SJackson

You must realize, as I and others do, that as long as the archenemy occupies the White Hut things are going to get worse.

Stupid New York jewry keeps voting for idiots who care nothing for Jews....only their votes. Negroes serve on the Democrat plantation while Jews happily march through voting booths on their way to a concentration camp.

Israelis, especially the esteemed Benjamin Netanyahu, understand what must be done and may, just may, run roughshod over this puke we call president on their way to settle a problem with Muslims once and for all.

Ah, for a return to the exciting days of 1967 if, left unrestrained by the clueless American government, they had continued on there would be a chain of Moshe Dyan gas stations in Egypt.

I recall the cover of Life magazine at that time where a sea of empty Egyptian combat boots covered the desert for a mile or so. This was because the brave Egyptians jumped out of their boots so they could run faster. An Egyptian Army scout had looked over a sand dune and spied an Israeli commando. Boy did they run!


7 posted on 11/27/2013 5:55:02 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: All

Oh, I forgot who the Democrats’ capo is: Chuckie Schumer.


8 posted on 11/27/2013 5:56:19 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

I think Jews have lost their fighting spirit.....at least against Muslims that want to KILL them. Now they still have their fighting spirit strong if a Christian wants to open a meeting with a prayer or if a city or state seal has a cross on it. VERY SAD.


9 posted on 11/27/2013 6:01:24 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: allendale
Slowly but surely...

Lord help us. Please speed it up a little!

10 posted on 11/27/2013 6:13:39 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Funny. Well the Jews are known as a stubborn stiff necked people. Give them time.


11 posted on 11/27/2013 6:16:18 AM PST by allendale
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To: SJackson
never rely on others or on miracles, but when our very existence is in the balance, we must be prepared to fight a lonely battle to victory.

Silly me, I thought the lesson of Hannukah had more to do with God's faithfulness and mighty power than with His people's preparedness.

12 posted on 11/27/2013 6:16:33 AM PST by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: SJackson
"As we put our faith in these nations, especially our greatest friend the United States of America, we must remember the central lesson of Hanukkah; never rely on others or on miracles, but when our very existence is in the balance, we must be prepared to fight a lonely battle to victory."
Hope others are reading this and taking note.
13 posted on 11/27/2013 6:16:38 AM PST by Riflema
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To: Ann Archy

I realize that generalizations always have exceptions. I consider myself one of the exceptions. Having served in the US military for over 26 years, I think I still have the fighting spirit necessary to defend Israel if they ever need a grey beard ship captain or just an old man that knows how to use a weapon. I suspect there may be quite a few of us that would fight to the death to defend our ancestral homeland.


14 posted on 11/27/2013 6:18:08 AM PST by SailormanCGA72
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To: TennTuxedo
But yet the Jews rely on the Democrat Party as if it were their link to life.

I have a far better chance of working out the math that finally proves the existence of Dark Matter than I do of ever figuring that one out. Seriously.

15 posted on 11/27/2013 6:38:49 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority...")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Yeah that is the Catch-22 isn't it? The conservatives support Israel and it's right to exist and American Jews seem to always support the Liberal Democrats in local and national elections. What gives? Maybe one of my Jewish friends would care to enlighten us here on the eve of Hanukkah.
16 posted on 11/27/2013 7:01:07 AM PST by Malichi (!)
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To: SJackson

To my Jewish friends and Israeli correspondents,
May you have a good holiday and peace SHALL come
to Israel.

Am Israel Chai!

tet.


17 posted on 11/27/2013 7:07:03 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SJackson

The two thugs in his story, from, “years ago” were “handed over to the cops”. What law had they broken, since this story happened, presumably, before “hate crimes” existed?


18 posted on 11/27/2013 7:21:14 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Graybeard58

I had the same question, and was thinking half the story was BS, even if to make a valid point. I can’t see NYPD, now or at any time, looking kindly at one father grabbing another father’s kids for their calling his kids bad names.


19 posted on 11/27/2013 11:50:32 AM PST by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Knockout #1 took place last Friday in Crown Heights, when a religious photo intern got knocked down. “A 100 lb little Jew” as Israel Blizovsky described himself, punched for the fun of it... Ha ha. City Government’s nonchalant response was pretty close to What’s the big deal, you Jews worry too much. Knockout # 2 took place on the other side of the globe, in the Genteel city of Geneva, where diplomats, not thugs, knocked down Israel a peg or two while dismissing the Jewish State’s existential threat with the same What’s the big deal, you Jews worry too much.
Thanks SJackson. Oh, and BTW, turn in your firearms.


20 posted on 11/28/2013 4:22:26 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Ann Archy
I think Jews have lost their fighting spirit.....at least against Muslims that want to KILL them. Now they still have their fighting spirit strong if a Christian wants to open a meeting with a prayer or if a city or state seal has a cross on it. VERY SAD.

When you use the terms "Jews" and "they" in that statement, you are painting with much too broad of a brush. Turns out that a sizable and growing percentage of American Jews (though maybe not yet a majority) would not fit the leftist stereotype you ascribe to them. Yes, you'll find prominent Jews on the left but you'll also find a bunch of prominent Jewish American intellectuals and political pundits who are most definitely conservatives. I can run down a partial list of them if you wish.

21 posted on 11/28/2013 8:02:50 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: TennTuxedo; Nachum; SJackson; Yaelle; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; rmlew; Impala64ssa; dennisw; ...
But yet the Jews rely on the Democrat Party as if it were their link to life.

From my Jewish perspective, I've considered for many years that the the relationship between many Jews and the 'Rat Party resembles that between an addict and his favorite drug.

Jews are moving away from the 'Rats, though, slowly but surely. And polls, almost all conducted by lefties, tend to somewhat overstate the percentage of Jewish votes that go to 'Rats, because (1)they have a very expansive notion of who is Jewish and (2) they tend to undersample Orthodox Jews and Jews who have origins in the Soviet Union and other Iron Curtain countries. The latter two subgroups, plus American Jews in Israel, vote overwhelmingly Republican, especially in national elections.

22 posted on 11/28/2013 12:42:55 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

We also beget more children, who grow up and vote, too.


23 posted on 11/28/2013 12:46:39 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: willywill
American jews wield great power

Really? What might those "powers" be?
24 posted on 11/28/2013 1:15:09 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: IbJensen; SJackson; justiceseeker93; Eleutheria5; PA Engineer; KC_Lion; MestaMachine
Stupid New York Jewry keeps voting for idiots who care nothing for Jews....only their votes. Negroes serve on the Democrat plantation while Jews happily march through voting booths on their way to a concentration camp.

Likewise, my stupid, fellow Roman Catholics continue to vote for abortionist-loving Marxists like Nancy Piglosi, Joe BiteMe, Patrick Leahy and slews of others holding high office and my Church continues to permit them to receive Holy Communion.

Israelis, especially the esteemed Benjamin Netanyahu, understand what must be done and may, just may, run roughshod over this puke we call president on their way to settle a problem with Muslims once and for all.

God bless and keep Prime Minister Netanyahu. I honestly try to remember to pray for him everyday.

25 posted on 11/28/2013 1:36:00 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

Blacks, too, really ought to ask themselves what 40 years of affirmative action has gotten them? Has it made white professionals respect their fellow African-American professionals more or less? Has the black community prospered more in the past 40 years, or less? Dots must be connected.

Every group that reflexively votes Democratic has little or nothing to show for it, except gays. Oh, and women can have nicer careers if they never marry and just keep their noses to the grindstones.


26 posted on 11/28/2013 1:47:04 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: PA Engineer

“American jews wield great power

Really? What might those “powers” be?”

I meant to say mormons


27 posted on 11/28/2013 3:41:54 PM PST by willywill
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To: knittnmom

I have on occasion made liberal Jews hair stand on end when I suggest it’s a war holiday. While I agree the Miracle is at the core of the holiday, imo it’s important to recognize we arrived at that point at the end of a civil war against Hellinization in which the Maccabees prevailed. Without outside assistance. It’s a part of the holiday, and I believe the Rabbi is correct that we can’t rely on others, or miracles before the fact.


28 posted on 11/28/2013 4:34:58 PM PST by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: willywill
I meant to say mormons

Everyone knew what you meant. You are relatively new here and are not flying well under the radar. I smell ozone.
29 posted on 11/28/2013 5:05:32 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer

“Everyone knew what you meant. You are relatively new here and are not flying well under the radar. I smell ozone.”

other than the fact that I’ve noticed there are a few groups that its ok to besmirch here, and a couple that are off limits, I would have to say I share most beliefs.


30 posted on 11/28/2013 5:28:34 PM PST by willywill
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To: justiceseeker93
Jews are moving away from the 'Rats, though, slowly but surely.

No thanks to the Jewish Mess, which continues to promote secular enlightenment egalitarianism as "the" Jewish ideology and never saw a Democrat politician low enough it couldn't endorse.

The newspaper that once served as the mouthpiece in the US of Rabbi Me'ir Kahana' (zt"l; Hy"d) back in the days when everyone regarded homosexuality with horror and loathing has committed itself to the contemporary Democrat party and leftist minority "identity" politics. Someone needs to start a paper to go up against them.

31 posted on 11/29/2013 5:56:47 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: allendale
Slowly but surely most Jews will come to realize the inherent danger and true nature of the Democratic Party.

This will only happen when the secular majority of American Jews has totally assimilated and left only the right wing Orthodox to identify as Jews. And even Charedim can be addicted to the Democrat party for the same reasons that Blacks, Catholics, and (at one time) white Southerners have been and are.

32 posted on 11/29/2013 6:00:18 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Ann Archy
I think Jews have lost their fighting spirit.....at least against Muslims that want to KILL them. Now they still have their fighting spirit strong if a Christian wants to open a meeting with a prayer or if a city or state seal has a cross on it. VERY SAD.

You know something? As a Noachide and former chrstian I am very anti-chrstian in a theological sense, and yet I agree with you 100%.

I take a lot of heat for slamming chrstianity on this forum, but at least I slam it from a Torah perspective. Many Jews--both Orthodox and non-Orthodox, secular and religious--have a visceral hatred of chrstianity that goes far beyond theological differences or even historical events to such an extent that it shocks even me.

The best way I can explain it is that Jews regard chrstianity the way chrstians regard G-dless Communism--the Ultimate Enemy against which they define themselves.

33 posted on 11/29/2013 6:07:50 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: PA Engineer; willywill
American jews wield great power

Really? What might those "powers" be?

If you would allow me, I'd like to defend, to an extent, this observation.

Now it's true that many people who talk about Jewish "power" or influence mean that "Chewish bankers rule ze vorld!" But it does not necessarily have to mean that.

In mystical Jewish teaching (and I am no expert here) the Jewish soul is different from the non-Jewish soul, descending from a different "place" in the G-dhead. This could be interpreted as giving Jews more "weight" in a metaphysical sense, so that Jewish opinion has an disproportionate effect on world opinion that transcends the vaunted "Jewish control" of major media.

In the ancient world, with no modern media of communication and (and certainly no "international finance" as we know it today) one could say it was Jewish observance and 'emunah that caused the spread of an adulterated but ultimately Torah-derived morality throughout the civilized world. Perhaps the great mass apostasy since the eighteenth century European "enlightenment" has had a similar spiritual effect on that world's rejection of its traditional moral beliefs?

In other words, it may very well be that G-d created the universe in such a way that "as go the Jews, so goes the human race"--quite literally.

34 posted on 11/29/2013 6:23:39 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: SJackson
I have on occasion made liberal Jews hair stand on end when I suggest it’s a war holiday. While I agree the Miracle is at the core of the holiday, imo it’s important to recognize we arrived at that point at the end of a civil war against Hellinization in which the Maccabees prevailed. Without outside assistance. It’s a part of the holiday, and I believe the Rabbi is correct that we can’t rely on others, or miracles before the fact.

Rabbi Kahana'(zt"l; Hy"d)'s former second-in-command of the original Jewish Defense League, Chaim Ben Pesach, has pointed out that Chanukkah is a celebration of Jews killing Jews--meaning "narrow-minded fundamentalists" killing "enlightened" liberal Hellenizers.

No Jewish holiday has been so twisted to mean the exact of opposite of what it actually represents as has Chanukkah (even the liberation theology read into Pesach comes in as at best second). The Maccabean revolt began when a liberal Jew decided his to take advantage of his "religious freedom" by sacrificing a pig, at which point Mattityahu (the John Hagee of his day) killed him. Immediately. Without a second thought. This is where this allegedly modern, liberal war on behalf of the First Amendment began.

The "official" American Jewish leadership promotes Chanukkah as a holiday of American Jeffersonian liberalism, conveniently forgetting that all the events celebrated took place in a pre-modern, Theocratic context to which most of today's Jews react like a vampire to garlic. There is no "religious freedom" other than the freedom to obey G-d's Commandments unhindered. "Freedom of religion" as we know it today only came into existence some two to three hundred years ago. It was originally a radical Protestant reaction to the theological and ecclesiological chaos unleashed by the Reformation, but it very quickly became corrupted and became the position of religious subjectivism: "we can't have a state religion because no one knows what the true religion actually is."

Chanukkah is a celebration of the triumph of fundamentalists against liberals, yet the "alphabet agencies" celebrate it as a presage of Voltaire/Jefferson/Paine. Plus it comes conveniently around chrstmas so that it can be turned into the allegedly skeptical, iconoclastic Jewish response to alleged chrstian simplicity and pietism.

I hate what the American Jewish establishment has done to Chanukkah. Let's see them do the same with Purim!

35 posted on 11/29/2013 6:40:40 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: willywill
other than the fact that I’ve noticed there are a few groups that its ok to besmirch here, and a couple that are off limits, I would have to say I share most beliefs.

I just defended you a little earlier. Don't make me sorry I did.

36 posted on 11/29/2013 6:51:27 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I noticed you have taken the “I” out of Christian in your spelling....little overdone, doncha think??


37 posted on 11/29/2013 9:17:31 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; SJackson; All
Speaking of the late Rabbi Meir Kahane, the article that began this thread was by Rabbi Reuven Kahane. It's quite likely that Rabbi Reuven is the late Rabbi Kahane's son, not only because the surname is the same, but because of the narrative of the author's father grabbing the anti-Semitic kids who were taunting him. BTW, never heard of The Jewish Mess.
38 posted on 11/29/2013 10:10:27 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Ann Archy
I noticed you have taken the “I” out of Christian in your spelling....little overdone, doncha think??

I am trying to avoid writing out in full the name of a false "gxd." It's a religious thing, not done out of spite.

39 posted on 11/29/2013 1:53:28 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: justiceseeker93; SJackson; All
BTW, never heard of The Jewish Mess.

That's my sarcastic way of referring to the absolutely maddening Jewish Press of Brooklyn, NY, the "worldest's largest Anglo-Jewish paper." It's a disgrace.

40 posted on 11/29/2013 1:55:30 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: onyx; All
Likewise, my stupid, fellow Roman Catholics continue to vote for abortionist-loving Marxists like Nancy Piglosi, Joe BiteMe, Patrick Leahy and slews of others holding high office...

I was under the impression that the Roman Catholic vote nationally, although once predominantly Democrat, has broken about evenly between the two major parties in national elections in the last few decades.

From this Jewish Republican perspective, I can only hope that we can someday achieve that kind of success.

Aside from the Marxist Roman Catholics in politics you mentioned, there quite a number prominent conservative Roman Catholic politicians as well.

41 posted on 11/29/2013 8:55:14 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
From this Jewish Republican perspective, I can only hope that we can someday achieve that kind of success.>

Point taken.

Of course, now my faith has a Pope who believes in 'Social Justice' (to put it mildly) so we'll have to see where that goes with the American flock. Needless to say, I totally reject his latest statements.

42 posted on 11/29/2013 9:02:20 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Malichi; rmlew; PA Engineer; onyx; Eleutheria5
Malichi wrote:"Maybe one of my Jewish friends would care to enlighten us here on the eve of Hanukkah."

Will do when you Christians who are over 90% of the country tell us why your co religionists TWICE. elected obullcrap with Christians and Catholics in particular making the difference in the crucial swing states.

U guys are quick to whine DAILY about the majority of JINOS who vote dem and who have no more connecttion to Israel than they do to the constitution while YOUR PEOPLE are the ones voting in the Dems.

Jews don't have the numbers to push any recent swing states. Clean up your own mess and stop with the "it's the JOOS fault" libel. We've heard that sh*t too many times before and it's particularly gallng when u whiners do it on an article like this by JEWS ON THE RIGHT AS THEY PROPOSE ISRAEL TAKING CARE OF IRAN ON THEIR OWN.

43 posted on 11/30/2013 8:32:33 PM PST by Yehuda (Pres Obortion, Sen.McAnus, Hillary Abedin Clinton all kiss the *ss of the muslim brotherhood. A)
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To: Yehuda

Hanuka is about fighting the Hellenization of Judaism. The Hellenized Jews who vote Dem are the ones the Maccabees would have gone after. It’s a different country and a different time, so we have to just outlast them instead of slaughter them. But Yehuda is right. Even in New York, the Jewish vote is not outcome-determinative of the electoral college tally. At most, there are some very talented Jews who spend their time and energy boosting Dems and convincing large blocks of Christian voters to go for them. But we have no way to reign them in, and conservative Jews are people with real jobs and lives, not campaign hounds, and who don’t have time to do much more than post on Freep.


44 posted on 11/30/2013 8:42:29 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

You forgot about Russian Jews, the most conservative group. Most are not particularly religious, but they hate communists.


45 posted on 11/30/2013 10:17:41 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Malichi
Yeah that is the Catch-22 isn't it? The conservatives support Israel and it's right to exist and American Jews seem to always support the Liberal Democrats in local and national elections. What gives? Maybe one of my Jewish friends would care to enlighten us here on the eve of Hanukkah.

You are wrong about local elections. In NY and NJ, Jews are voting more and more Republican in local elections. Part of this has to do with "Russian Jews" (ie those who fled the Soviet block) and Orthodox Jews. Still, it isn't just these two groups. In NYC, Jews voted for Republicans for mayor in 1993,1997*, 2001*, 2005, and 2009, twice against Jewish Democrats. Even in 2013, when the Republican candidate lost citywide by more than 40%, the two groups he did best with were White Catholics and Jews.

Nationally, the Conservative, Reform and Reconstructionist Judaism are essential the Democrat and Green Party at prayer. I say this is a disgusted ex-Reform Jew, who believes that the left wing cult that runs Reform Judaism is a betrayal of its purpose.

46 posted on 11/30/2013 10:27:27 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Yehuda; Malichi; TennTuxedo; Bloody Sam Roberts; rmlew; PA Engineer; Eleutheria5
Malichi wrote:"Maybe one of my Jewish friends would care to enlighten us here on the eve of Hanukkah." Will do when you Christians who are over 90% of the country tell us why your co religionists TWICE. elected obullcrap with Christians and Catholics in particular making the difference in the crucial swing states.

U guys are quick to whine DAILY about the majority of JINOS who vote dem and who have no more connecttion to Israel than they do to the constitution while YOUR PEOPLE are the ones voting in the Dems.

Jews don't have the numbers to push any recent swing states. Clean up your own mess and stop with the "it's the JOOS fault" libel. We've heard that sh*t too many times before and it's particularly gallng when u whiners do it on an article like this by JEWS ON THE RIGHT AS THEY PROPOSE ISRAEL TAKING CARE OF IRAN ON THEIR OWN.



Thank you so much, dearest Yehuda! I agree with you 100 percent. As you know, your RC FRiend gets almost as tired as you, hearing about the JINO vote and I don't see you on threads wringing your hands over the much, much larger CINO vote.

BTW, Just look at inclusiveness in the good Rabbi's message I've cut and pasted below.



Over thanksgiving and Christmas, let us hope that the nations of the world will continue to support the idea of an independent and secure Jewish nation, a nation that will sometimes be battered, sometimes bruised but with its own pride and the means to always get back up. ~ Rabbi Reuven Kahane

God (G-d) bless and keep you and ISRAEL.

47 posted on 12/01/2013 8:34:49 AM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: justiceseeker93
Are Jews really moving away from the Rats?

I do not think so.

A LESS assimilated Jew, who KNOWS he/she is a Jew AND knows Torah AND may even know some Hebrew, will VOTE REPUBLICAN.

The MORE assimilated (the majority of America's) Jews, the more ignorance and a tendency to vote with parties or individuals who harm Jewish interests.

48 posted on 12/04/2013 4:28:41 AM PST by Netz
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To: Netz; All
A LESS assimilated Jew, who KNOWS he/she is a Jew AND knows Torah AND may even know some Hebrew, will VOTE REPUBLICAN.

The MORE assimilated (the majority of America's) Jews, the more ignorance and a tendency to vote with parties or individuals who harm Jewish interests.

Agree with you in general. I'd venture a guess that the single factor which most correlates with the way an American Jew will vote is whether or not that individual has visited Israel. As you might know, American Jews in Israel are reputed to have voted over 80% for Romney vs. Obama. Republicans Abroad in Israel have a dynamic organization.

Are Jews really moving away from the Rats? I do not think so.

In the 2012 presidential election, the GOP share of the Jewish presidential vote was reported, even by leftist massaged polling data, to have increased perhaps ten percentage points over 2008, with Zero experiencing a similar decline.

In the long term, some here have projected that Orthodox Jews - due to their much higher birth rate and the loss of Jewish identity among other Jews - will represent a larger proportion of the American Jewish community, and therefore the Jewish vote as a whole will move in a direction away from the 'Rats.

49 posted on 12/04/2013 2:36:54 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

I think you’re looking very far into the future. If/when the Jewish Orthodox are the majority of Jews in America, we are talking about MAJOR transformation that will take another 50 years. By then, will Israel be around to visit?
I’ve heard that less than 25% of American Jews have ever visited Israel but those that do visit once do it again, many times over.


50 posted on 12/06/2013 8:38:42 AM PST by Netz
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