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China Sends Jets Into ‘Air Defense’ Zone After Flights by Japan and South Korea
New York Times ^ | November 28, 2013 | By Martin Fackler

Posted on 11/28/2013 12:52:09 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee

TOKYO — China sent fighter jets into its newly declared air defense zone Thursday on what state media called the country’s first air patrol since it declared control of the airspace. The announcement came hours after Japan and South Korea sent their own military planes into the airspace over the East China Sea, testing China’s resolve to enforce its declaration.

The announcement of the flights came just days after unarmed American B-52 bombers flew through the same zone in defiance of China. Beijing later said that it had monitored the American bombers but had chosen not to take action even though the planes did not tell the Chinese they were coming, as the government now demands.

On Thursday, the top Japanese government spokesman, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga, said that the Chinese had not been notified of the Japanese flights, and reported that China did not scramble its fighter jets to intercept the planes.

The South Korean government announced that it, too, had flown aircraft through the zone, on Wednesday, without alerting Beijing, a flight Chinese officials said they had monitored. The South Koreans said they had sent a surveillance aircraft.

Like Japan, South Korea claims sovereignty over territory in the zone, but enjoys warmer ties with Beijing than Japan does.

Japan did not specify how many patrols had flown through the zone or when the flights were made.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; japan; republicofkorea; waronterror

1 posted on 11/28/2013 12:52:09 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

All it would take is one itchy trigger finger


2 posted on 11/28/2013 12:54:42 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Brad from Tennessee

It was my take that early on the argument about the Spratley Islands should have been the time to take on the Chinese. Nobody has said no to their demands before this, so what did we expect but more adventurism?

We finance China’s ascension, and then are surprised that a rogue nation would act like a rogue nation. Many people tried to argue for going slow on China.

I am one of them. I was ridiculed here resoundingly for fifteen years because of it.

Well, the real payoff is coming folks. Enjoy.

When it really hits the fan, try to find one person who will admit supporting turning China into a super-power.


3 posted on 11/28/2013 12:57:21 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

what are they going to do ? Shoot down commercial air liners ? Another KAL007 ? Claim they didn’t know ? So many air routes go right over those little islands . The solution is simple ; tell China in no uncertain terms ; if you destroy ANY aircraft enforcing your stupid self created exclusion rules , a total and complete ban will immediately be instituted on all products originating in China . No exceptions . It will all be thrown overboard and no payments will be made . That would be the last you would hear of this air exclusion zone . Fricken chinks .


4 posted on 11/28/2013 1:00:02 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: DoughtyOne

I gotta agree with this post.

We are currently importing a HUGE section of what Americans buy in every store in America, from China.

China.

America has a very high unemployment rate, yet we keep Americans out of work, so that Chinese can hold jobs sending products back to America.

This is totally screwed up.

Bring back American jobs now.


5 posted on 11/28/2013 1:00:36 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I got a Chinese jet fighter at Harbor Freight last week.
I was looking at Toyotas, but this is a little faster.


6 posted on 11/28/2013 1:01:34 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: DoughtyOne

We’ll reap the rewards of our one way economic relationship with China yet.


7 posted on 11/28/2013 1:02:45 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Obama would love to escalate this into a violent conflict.

Anything to take the focus away from Obamacare.


8 posted on 11/28/2013 1:21:04 PM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee; Admin Moderator

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3096405/posts


9 posted on 11/28/2013 1:28:33 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Also here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3096386/posts

(different source)


10 posted on 11/28/2013 1:31:05 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I wonder how long they can loiter.


11 posted on 11/28/2013 1:32:36 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

What they need is an airstrip on these islands so all these planes can land and the pilots can get some lunch.


12 posted on 11/28/2013 1:39:40 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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13 posted on 11/28/2013 1:46:55 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I am glad to see the US, Japan and S Korean thumb their noses at the Chinese imperialists


14 posted on 11/28/2013 2:08:16 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: LeoWindhorse

good idea and we will immediately pay them all the debt we owe too, right?


15 posted on 11/28/2013 2:09:35 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: bunkerhill7
What they need is an airstrip on these islands so all these planes can land and the pilots can get some lunch.

There is barely enough level ground on any of them to land a helicopter. They are little else than rocks protruding from the sea. Their value is in the oil that surrounds them.

16 posted on 11/28/2013 2:09:52 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: DoughtyOne

And you called it right

Anyone supporting Free Trade with Communist China supports Communist Chinese aggression. Not too long ago..if one supported economic aid to a Communist enemy...they were executed for treason

We have one thing that can control Communist China: Raising tariffs on the Communist Chinese. Anyone not supporting increased tariffs on the Communist Chinese...supports them


17 posted on 11/28/2013 2:23:26 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (2014: Real Conservatives Only, Please)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Among the biggest mistakes the West has made in the last 20+ years is allowing...assisting...China in becoming an economic power.The US,Europe and Japan should have closed their ports to Chinese made goods,a move that would have resulted in the same 100,000 bicycles on the streets of major cities during rush hour...just as I saw during my first visit there in 1980.
18 posted on 11/28/2013 2:26:16 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: GeronL

debt us not the Almighty God

Do you have a better idea?


19 posted on 11/28/2013 2:28:41 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

I’m all for it, give them Hawaii and California.

Please.


20 posted on 11/28/2013 2:33:48 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Bump.

“Free trade” is simply sending American jobs to China.

Bring back American jobs.


21 posted on 11/28/2013 2:35:14 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: LeoWindhorse

“products originating in China . No exceptions . It will all be thrown overboard”

That would create an island bigger than Hawaii, especially one month before Christmas.


22 posted on 11/28/2013 3:01:01 PM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: Viennacon
All it would take is one itchy trigger finger

Yep. I'd hate to see a Korean Air type "accident" over these stupid islands.

23 posted on 11/28/2013 4:45:47 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: DoughtyOne

“—try to find one person” Not hard, I guess. Everyone who has a piece of Chicom made krap in their house has helped. Everyone who has hauled a piece of cheapasskrap home from Walmart has helped. And every congresskritter who’s voted for big spending/borrowing is guilty and needs to raise their hand.

In my view it’s one thing to use foreign labor, etc. to serve foreign markets but it’s quite another to make substandard krap overseas to re-import here. I’ve fought this whole re-import thing since the 1960’s and I’m still in it.


24 posted on 11/28/2013 5:09:03 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I agree whole heartily.

There's a big difference in free trade and fair trade.

Look at your labels. If everyone fedup purchases a dozen products a year from some place other than China...guess what?

China will feel the impact and American corporations outsourcing will see it on their bottom line...boycott cheezy Chinese crap.

25 posted on 11/28/2013 5:33:39 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: LeoWindhorse

Some here will tell you that’s against capitalism.


26 posted on 11/28/2013 6:06:26 PM PST by sunrise_sunset
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To: GeronL

If China crashes the dollar their central bank and SWF’s are bankrupt.


27 posted on 11/28/2013 6:07:43 PM PST by sunrise_sunset
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Thanks for your note. I appreciate it.


28 posted on 11/28/2013 6:41:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: skeeter

We sure will.


29 posted on 11/28/2013 6:41:21 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Well, we agree there. I appreciate your note.


30 posted on 11/28/2013 6:42:50 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: cherokee1

I now it’s going to seem like those who have purchased Chinese made goods, are problematic, but in their defense, you can’t buy American anymore.

In 2006 I bought a Mercury Mariner. It was made in Kansas City. Many of it’s parts were brought in from overseas.

Who knows what percentage of the vehicle was actually American made? I don’t.

I was trying to support my fellow citizens, so they would have jobs. The corporate a.h.s had moved much of the business off-shore.


31 posted on 11/28/2013 6:46:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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