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Cancer Patient Who Spoke Out Against ObamaCare Now Being Audited
Frontpage Mag ^ | 11/28/2013 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 11/28/2013 2:24:18 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Bill Elliot was a cancer patient who lost his insurance due to ObamaCare and couldn’t pay the expensive new premiums. He was talking about paying the ObamaCare fine, going without health insurance and “letting nature take its course.”

CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO

He went on FOX News where his story was picked up by C. Steven Tucker, a health insurance broker who helped him keep his insurance.

Now suddenly Bill Elliot is being audited for 2009 with an interview only scheduled in April 2014. Assuming he lives that long. That might be a coincidence, but Tucker is being audited back to 2003.

That’s a rather strange coincidence.

Would the IRS actually go after a cancer patient, who had voted for Obama initially, just for appearing on FOX and now being sharply critical of Obama and suggesting that he resign for his health plan lie?

Under the current insane state of affairs, where the IRS was used to silence the opposition, it’s unfortunately entirely possible. The fact that we are even having this discussion shows how badly Obama has undermined confidence in government institutions and the rule of law.

Americans always hated the IRS, but it’s been a while since they believed that the IRS was targeting them for their political views.

The United States desperately needs to restore the rule of law and confidence in its institutions otherwise we are facing a serious crisis in which Americans begin viewing government agencies as tools of political repression.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aca; audit; bhoirs; cancellations; cancer; cancervictim; greenfield; intimidation; irs; irsaudit; obamacare; obamacarecritic
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1 posted on 11/28/2013 2:24:18 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 11/28/2013 2:24:50 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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3 posted on 11/28/2013 2:25:45 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SeekAndFind

4 posted on 11/28/2013 2:26:51 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: COBOL2Java

The IRS can, and will, keep doing this because Lois Lerner and the rest of those responsible for this lawlessness are not in jail.


5 posted on 11/28/2013 2:28:27 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: musicman

IRS agent interviewing a terminal cancer patient? Not smart. When a person has nothing to lose, anything is possible.


6 posted on 11/28/2013 2:32:03 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone surprised?


7 posted on 11/28/2013 2:33:04 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: SeekAndFind

Audited back to 2003?

Can they go back that far?


8 posted on 11/28/2013 2:37:42 PM PST by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: GeronL

No.


9 posted on 11/28/2013 2:38:36 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: SeekAndFind

I believe Barry and his close knit bunch of Nazis would do this, but they tell us that we only have to keep 7 years worth of taxes and yet they are going back 10 years on this guy? All the people complicit in this will pay, sooner or later.


10 posted on 11/28/2013 2:39:46 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dying isn’t enough for the obamites. They want him to die alone, broke, and afraid for daring to question The One.


11 posted on 11/28/2013 2:41:39 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama is a Nazi.


12 posted on 11/28/2013 2:41:57 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We are already in the much-forecast Police State. This is designed to scare the sh!t out of any future transgressors.


13 posted on 11/28/2013 2:43:20 PM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: SeekAndFind

We are already in the much-forecast Police State. This is designed to scare the sh!t out of any future transgressors.


14 posted on 11/28/2013 2:43:20 PM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: SeekAndFind

We are all to blame for Obama. If he isn’t dealt with and soon, there won’t be any freedoms left in three years.


15 posted on 11/28/2013 2:44:26 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: grumpygresh

“IRS agent interviewing a terminal cancer patient? Not smart. When a person has nothing to lose, anything is possible.”

Astute, creepy, true,,, people are being pushed. Anyone can see a collision is imminent as though two trains were barreling towards each other. They will not stop their relentless attack, and we will not give up our freedom. Where is the flashpoint? Nobody knows, but this cannot end well.
All of history tells me that.


16 posted on 11/28/2013 2:45:01 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: SeekAndFind
...we are facing a serious crisis in which Americans begin viewing government agencies as tools of political repression.

Begin?

17 posted on 11/28/2013 2:45:04 PM PST by Washi
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

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18 posted on 11/28/2013 2:46:31 PM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: PhiloBedo

How many “coincidences” can there be until there is a pattern going on here?


19 posted on 11/28/2013 2:46:37 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: diverteach

Statute of limitations for IRS levying additional taxes is 3 years. In general audits are of the last two years for that reason. This does not make sense. Something missing.


20 posted on 11/28/2013 2:47:34 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: DesertRhino

Extremely well put!


21 posted on 11/28/2013 2:49:20 PM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: PhiloBedo
These bullies better be careful while going after people who have nothing to lose.
22 posted on 11/28/2013 3:02:46 PM PST by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags of All Colors)
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To: SeekAndFind

When I compared Obama to Adolf Hitler back in 2008 on the Hannity message board, I got banned..gee, guess I was right even back in January 2008 I saw Obama for what he was and now its all coming true..Id expect this back in the Hitler days, not NOW, not in today’s America, but it’s Obama’s America now so really, Im not surprised, saddened but not surprised


23 posted on 11/28/2013 3:03:56 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: SeekAndFind

Man that is really downright dirty and sickening.

I was fortunate to be at a meeting with Tucker and hear all that was known about barrycare, before it was even passed, and I left there weeping.

This method of using the IRS to strong arm and intimidate, is not going to end well.


24 posted on 11/28/2013 3:11:01 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: peeps36

Where are the republicans for an investigation into this BS? The IRS so-called scandal went nowhere, and here these bastards are still doing it.

Useless GOP.


25 posted on 11/28/2013 3:18:47 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: COBOL2Java

26 posted on 11/28/2013 3:22:00 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: jwalsh07
Statute of limitations for IRS levying additional taxes is 3 years...

"Statute of limitations!"


27 posted on 11/28/2013 3:23:57 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: jwalsh07

IIRC, they can go back 3 years. If they find evidence of invalid claims or fraud in that period, they can go back to day one.


28 posted on 11/28/2013 3:24:23 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s time for an independent counsel.


29 posted on 11/28/2013 3:26:18 PM PST by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: DesertRhino
Where is the flashpoint? Nobody knows, but this cannot end well. All of history tells me that.

The death of a child as a result of this monstrosity - who is the son or daughter of a parent who will have been pushed over the edge.

30 posted on 11/28/2013 3:27:39 PM PST by wolf24
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To: SeekAndFind

I would recommend everyone read A Vampire Economy.....it is an accounting by a businessman who was in manufacturing in Nazi Germany and what it took to do business in that economy.

We are already living in that ecnomic state....not talking about racisms...ik talking about govt command and control...fascist economic systems.

Once the govt can command and control industries they can exert power over individuals....see USSC ruling on obamacare.


31 posted on 11/28/2013 3:32:37 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (I am the Tea Party bully who took Mitch McConnell's milk money.)
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To: SeekAndFind; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

32 posted on 11/28/2013 3:45:48 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: jwalsh07
Statute of limitations for IRS levying additional taxes is 3 years. In general audits are of the last two years for that reason. This does not make sense. Something missing.

There is no statue of limitations for defrauding the IRS.

If they think you have defrauded them, they can audit you back to your very first 1040.

33 posted on 11/28/2013 3:50:29 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

The problem with Godwin’s law is sometimes the comparison is accurate.


34 posted on 11/28/2013 3:53:54 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: DesertRhino

The IRS is his Gestapo.


35 posted on 11/28/2013 3:53:54 PM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

bump


36 posted on 11/28/2013 3:57:56 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: null and void

Yes, that is my impression too.


37 posted on 11/28/2013 4:03:47 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Republicans need to be perfectly clear that any and all federal officers who have misused their office for improper purposes, be they government service, military or police officers, will be out of a job, and possibly be declared “personna non grata” for future federal employment, as well as lose all benefits accrued, including retirement.

And, if their abuse is serious enough, in the future they may face federal indictment, and any organization that receives federal money will be prohibited from hiring them.

Right now the list of such abusers is likely in the thousands. If they refuse to carry out unlawful and improper activities, they may be fired now, but be able to get their jobs back later. If they follow those orders, however, they are finished.


38 posted on 11/28/2013 4:04:30 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Last Obamacare Promise: "If You Like Your Eternal Soul, You Can Keep It.")
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To: Gaffer

Fraud is another matter. My point is the statue for 2009 ran out on April 15, 2013. The other point is that unless you understate income by 25%, they can not invoke the 6 year rule. So unless he agrees to audit and waives the statute they can not audit 2009 tax return now assuming he filed by April 15, 2009 and did not use extensions. Thats why I said something might be missing from reporting.


39 posted on 11/28/2013 4:21:19 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

One could get the gist of that after watching “Schindler’s List” or reading the book “Schindler’s Ark”.


40 posted on 11/28/2013 4:22:37 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: null and void

No evidence of fraud and they can not just go auditing old returns in violation of the statute. My only point.


41 posted on 11/28/2013 4:23:28 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: SeekAndFind

Coincidence? I would think not.


42 posted on 11/28/2013 4:25:58 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: I am Richard Brandon

Have been for years.


43 posted on 11/28/2013 4:27:55 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: CatOwner

We are not to blame. The elite of both parties are to blame.


44 posted on 11/28/2013 4:29:28 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: grumpygresh
IRS agent interviewing a terminal cancer patient? Not smart. When a person has nothing to lose, anything is possible.

Totally agree.

And there will be more and more of this. And at the homes of the members of the IPAB board too.

If this law survives, many who help implement it won't.

just sayin'... when you have nothing left to lose, you don't mind taking out a few of the lousy bastards with you.

45 posted on 11/28/2013 4:44:15 PM PST by Principled
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To: Washi

Beat me to it


46 posted on 11/28/2013 4:47:06 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: DesertRhino
They will not stop their relentless attack, and we will not give up our freedom. Where is the flashpoint? Nobody knows, but this cannot end well.

Well spoken Rhino. I don't think I've seen it summed up so well until now. Unfortunately I think you're right.

My hope is that the law falls and people are punished - either with jail time or they get ceasesco-ed. That would be fitting to prevent such future transgressions...imo. Only that can prevent the bad ending you describe.

47 posted on 11/28/2013 4:47:54 PM PST by Principled
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To: SeekAndFind

The IRS has a long storied history of going after political opponents of the regime in power. Roosevelt was an active user of the IRS. Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon too.

The thing that is unusual about Obama regime is its use of IRS to screw “little guy” critics. Ie when Roosevelt used IRS he went after the likes of Andrew Mellon.


48 posted on 11/28/2013 4:56:06 PM PST by Skepolitic
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To: jwalsh07

— “No evidence of fraud and they can not just go auditing old returns in violation of the statute.”

That’s right. The burden is on the IRS to show fraud or abuse or under-reporting. Neither Elliot nor Tucker is obligated to cooperate with the IRS in that effort.

If they are confident the IRS has nothing on them, they should ignore the audit notices and instead contact their elected officials to complain about the abuse. Govt agencies usually back off because they don’t want to deal with inquiries from lawmakers. The IRS may be more sinister but that is all the more reason to fight back.

How Long to Keep Records:
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p17/ch01.html#en_US_2013_publink1000264699


49 posted on 11/28/2013 5:14:44 PM PST by sun7
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To: DesertRhino
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Copy that, Houston ...


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50 posted on 11/28/2013 5:18:37 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Swine Piss be upon the Sodmite Obama, and his Child-Rapist False Prophet Mohammed)
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