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Australian police find 328 guns, 4.2 tons of ammo at farm.
NBCNews.com ^ | 11/28/2013 | Alexander Smith, NBC News contributor

Posted on 11/28/2013 3:34:19 PM PST by carriage_hill

A father and his two sons have been arrested in Australia after police found a $3 million arsenal of more than 300 guns and 4.2 tons of ammunition at their farm, police said Thursday.

The men, aged 69, 46 and 42, were charged with possessing restricted firearms after police found the weapons stockpile stashed in sheds at their property in Monto, Queensland.

A selection of the firearms from a huge stockpile of 328 guns and 4.2 tons of ammo recovered by police in Queensland, Australia.

Among the 328 weapons were military-style automatic rifles, some of which were worth up to $50,000 each, and Glock handguns worth $10,000, police said.

“This is certainly one of the largest hauls of firearms, ammunition and weapons we have uncovered,” said Detective Superintendent Jon Wacker of the Queensland Police. “These firearms are very disturbing.”

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Nice little stash. Or at least it was. Pics at site.
1 posted on 11/28/2013 3:34:19 PM PST by carriage_hill
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To: mylife; MaxMax; 50cal Smokepole; Randy Larsen; lolhelp; waterhill; Clint N. Suhks; Envisioning; ...

Gun Talk Ping List...


2 posted on 11/28/2013 3:35:20 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

$10,000 Glocks?


3 posted on 11/28/2013 3:37:00 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: carriage_hill
Are they putting this stuff out on bids?

:)

4 posted on 11/28/2013 3:38:05 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: carriage_hill


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5 posted on 11/28/2013 3:40:46 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: headstamp 2

G18 full-auto, folding stock, suppressor, super optics, maybe? I didn’t know Glock made a unit that expensive. Wow.


6 posted on 11/28/2013 3:41:36 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

Yeah, it was a good start. Too bad it was confiscated.


7 posted on 11/28/2013 3:42:53 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: carriage_hill

Silly Aussies. Only jackbooted thugs are permitted to have this many guns.


8 posted on 11/28/2013 3:43:12 PM PST by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: carriage_hill

“These firearms are very disturbing.”

No. What’s disturbing is a-hole Nazis like this aussie cop.


9 posted on 11/28/2013 3:44:05 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: carriage_hill
Glock handguns worth $10,000

Whaaaaa?? And what the hell is with the "4.2 tons" of ammo? Are we measuring ammo by the pound these days?

10 posted on 11/28/2013 3:44:35 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: The Cajun

There’s some nice hardware in the array on those tables, in the site pics.

From the article: “modified or converted in some way” usually means they’re highly illegal, but not knowing Australia’s gun laws, I don’t know what that really means, either. I’m guessing no one’s going to get a crack at most of them, except maybe the gov’t or LEOs.


11 posted on 11/28/2013 3:45:14 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill
I like how the bed wetters put several break barrel pellet rifles out there to make the "arsenal" look even more vast and scary.

A lot of shotguns and bolt hunting guns. This scares Australians?

What happened to those crazy Aussies that fought with us in South VN?

12 posted on 11/28/2013 3:45:51 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: carriage_hill

Whats more disturbing is that its against the law.Its bullshit.


13 posted on 11/28/2013 3:47:14 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: carriage_hill
Heck, I'm just interested in the ammo.
14 posted on 11/28/2013 3:47:25 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: 43north

Reminds me of what the Brady Bunch Nazis would say about any firearm.


15 posted on 11/28/2013 3:47:40 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: 43north

My thoughts exactly


16 posted on 11/28/2013 3:48:04 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Cobra64

Those things are gone down a gov’t ‘rabbit hole’, forever.


17 posted on 11/28/2013 3:48:31 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill
i saw one double barrel shotgun and two pellet guns in the picture... kinda like cops weighing dirt in marijuana grow busts to up the weight
18 posted on 11/28/2013 3:48:42 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: carriage_hill

I’m all jealous...and stuff. My stash weighs...what...300 pounds?


19 posted on 11/28/2013 3:49:36 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority...")
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To: carriage_hill

Gee that’s a lot of ammo - but I can imagine if you loved and collected guns that 300 is a nice amount.

These blokes will do some hard time for this as Queensland is currently cracking down on bikies as they tend to be our equivalent to the Mafia and they have been killing each other in the streets putting normal citizens at risk. I have no doubt these were uncovered due to the crackdown and have bikie links.

Cheers

Mel


20 posted on 11/28/2013 3:49:40 PM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: carriage_hill

So?


21 posted on 11/28/2013 3:49:41 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: doorgunner69

They are way out numbered by the pussies that have been bread there just as here.


22 posted on 11/28/2013 3:50:10 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Chode

The only interesting thing I saw was a BSA #4 Martini Cadet training rifle.


23 posted on 11/28/2013 3:52:11 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Still Thinking

Depending upon the caliber and size of cases, that’s a lot of pallets of ammo. I do some PT work for a large FFL here in PA, unloading shipments of firearms/ammo/optics/accessories etc, from sealed trucks with police escorts, and there’s usually 500-750 lbs of ammo on 3’x4’ wood pallets, again depending on caliber and case size.


24 posted on 11/28/2013 3:53:12 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: doorgunner69

Shotguns and bolt action guns are not illegal - probably just not registered. Semi-auto or automatic guns are banned.

Mel


25 posted on 11/28/2013 3:54:24 PM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: Still Thinking

I hope so. This makes me a piker with significantly less than .1 tons of ammo. Nothing to see here.


26 posted on 11/28/2013 3:57:15 PM PST by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: carriage_hill
Bloody hell! Unless the blokes were named Achmed bin Obama, Mohammed Al- Mohammed, or Ali Al' Iiaxenfree I don't quite see what the problem is! Why aren't the cops going after all the muzzie yoobs harrassing and upsetting all the lovely lasses in bathing suits on the beaches? Or the muzzies shouting insults at the ones not dressed in the muzzie-mandated all-black burial shrouds in the shopping-malls and public ways instead? THIS is somehow more important???

Unless of course they are in actuality breaking up a found terrorist cell, in which case I expect those firearms to be placed up for worldwide auction quite soon.

27 posted on 11/28/2013 3:57:28 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: carriage_hill

Now THAT is a weapons cache!


28 posted on 11/28/2013 4:02:49 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: carriage_hill

Damn. I wish I had that Armory.


29 posted on 11/28/2013 4:03:32 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: carriage_hill

rifles featuring telescopic lenses..?


30 posted on 11/28/2013 4:04:48 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: carriage_hill

Who”RATTED”Them Out????????????????????????????


31 posted on 11/28/2013 4:05:18 PM PST by bandleader
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To: carriage_hill
In this picture they're all either bolt actions or lever actions as far as I can tell. Not very scary.

These must be the "scary" ones. Semi-autos are a big no-no Down Under unless you have a special needs hunting license.

But this is the line that Free Men must heed:

"The men, who have not been named, were licensed to have 71 weapons. ... An audit of the men's weapons was carried out sometime in the past two months, in accordance with Australian firearms law, but police would not say if that led to the raid."

Registration leads to confiscation.

32 posted on 11/28/2013 4:06:51 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: carriage_hill

What is the point of having such a large stockpile of weapons, if you allow yourself to be arrested without a shot being fired?


33 posted on 11/28/2013 4:07:22 PM PST by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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To: doorgunner69

They were neutered after the ‘96 Port Arthur Massacre: “More than 600,000 newly prohibited weapons, around a fifth of all firearms in Australia, were destroyed at a cost of nearly half-a-billion dollars.” Same ‘buy-back’ program happened in 2003.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_buyback_program#Australia


34 posted on 11/28/2013 4:08:08 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: doorgunner69
What happened to those crazy Aussies that fought with us in South VN?

Hell, what happened when the continent was first discovered?

Australia was settled by prisoners.

35 posted on 11/28/2013 4:09:25 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

It’s what gov’ts do well: bullshit.


36 posted on 11/28/2013 4:10:19 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill
...depending on caliber and case size.

And .22 LR would be the densest.

37 posted on 11/28/2013 4:10:58 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: The Cajun

LEOs will wind-up keeping all that, probably. But the nice hardware’s gone.


38 posted on 11/28/2013 4:12:02 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Chode

They’re hardly showing all 328 weapons, but I’d like to get a close look at them.


39 posted on 11/28/2013 4:14:05 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: melsec

Also sounds like they’d done some “modifications” (sears, barrels etc) to them, which rendered many of the illegal.


40 posted on 11/28/2013 4:16:10 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

Yeah that’s probably the case too - A lot of Aussie country boys still know how to modify a rifle especially up in Queensland!


41 posted on 11/28/2013 4:19:17 PM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: Utilizer

You can bet they’ll be tracing serial numbers and probably pulling-in more people involved in this cache, while the muzzie terrorists go merrily about training in their camps.


42 posted on 11/28/2013 4:21:03 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: mylife

Sure beats the 7 firearms and 300 rounds of ammo they found at the Houston guy’s house, doesn’t it?


43 posted on 11/28/2013 4:22:30 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: melsec

Not much info yet, on the 3 guys they nabbed.


44 posted on 11/28/2013 4:24:08 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: melsec

Queensland crackdown is over the top. Riding in groups of 3 is assumed to be a gang. Gang officers have to resign, but maybe cannot, etc. Sounds like a group ride to Sunday School will end you in jail. In what I see, the way the law is written, muslim gatherings might be included — but of course the govt wouldn’t dare.

From another forum — in the new jail facility to be purpose built for bikies (1%ers and probably other innocent bystanders) under these anti-democratic and probably unconstitutional laws, the conditions of incarceration include:
- 23hrs/day solitary confinement;
- No gym or exercise facilities;
- No TV, etc. and very limited visiting rights; and
- Inmates to be clothed in shocking pink jump suits.

Not only that but the general presumption that bail (which does not usually involve cash as in the US) will be granted is overturned and the presumption is that bail will not be granted to people associated with prescribed gangs.
This situation has resulted in many members of proscribed gangs handing in all their colours and patches over to their lawyers - they are not “all” thugs and drug dealers, etc.
But “f___ U Newman” has now amended his poorly thought out legislation to include “former” gang members in its orbit.
But most of this legislation (like the VLAD laws - Vicious Lawless Disestablishment Act) is Constitutionally dodgy and needs to be tested in the High Court of Australia where it could possibly thrown out due to:
No freedom of association;
Compulsory sentencing;
Reversal of presumption that bail will be granted;
Yada yada.

Assorted news links:

New rule in Queensland!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-16/bikies-liken-new-qld-laws-to-guantanamo-bay/5026568

Also, no ride groups of more than 3 (three) bikes!
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/new-laws-in-bikie-war-pass-queensland-parliament/story-fnihsrf2-1226740591889

The relationship between riders and Police is disintegrating daily. Check any of the ABC News links.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-31/bar-association-of-queensland-says-newman-judiciary-stoush-regr/5061070

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-13/bikers-harassed-while-escorting-hearse-to-womans-funeral/5088286

Police ‘harass’ Townsville bikers while escorting hearse to woman’s funeral

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/Bikie-crackdown-is-taking-its-toll-on-local-busine/2056710/

Bikie crackdown is taking its toll on local business


45 posted on 11/28/2013 4:24:41 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: carriage_hill
328 guns and 4.2 tons of ammo....

I'm jealous.

46 posted on 11/28/2013 4:25:45 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: carriage_hill

The telescopic lenses Qtr what scared me the most. They were sniper rifles for goodness sakes!


47 posted on 11/28/2013 4:26:57 PM PST by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: mylife

Scary, evil things, those telescopic lenses...


48 posted on 11/28/2013 4:27:34 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

You have to be from Edgewood if yer a Martini Henry fan ....:o)

Happy Thanksgiving Slim !!


49 posted on 11/28/2013 4:29:49 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: carriage_hill

Very well.


50 posted on 11/28/2013 4:31:13 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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