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China Scrambles Jets as US and Japan Enter Air Zone
AP via Telegraph ^ | Friday, November 29, 2013

Posted on 11/29/2013 6:22:47 AM PST by kristinn

Chinese state media say China has sent two fighter planes to investigate flights by a dozen U.S. and Japanese planes in its newly established maritime air defence zone over the East China Sea.

It is thought the incident is separate to China's announcement that it would carry out regular patrols in its air zone.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Japan; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: adiz; china; japan; republicofkorea; scramble; waronterror
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We still owe the ChiComs for the EP-3 takedown twelve years ago.
1 posted on 11/29/2013 6:22:47 AM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Note to America.

Bring back American factories, and stop supporting this regime so darn extensively.

Buy American.


2 posted on 11/29/2013 6:28:40 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: kristinn

Free Trade™ the gift that keeps on giving.


3 posted on 11/29/2013 6:33:46 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

RE: Bring back American factories, and stop supporting this regime so darn extensively.

And how exactly do we do that short of outlawing establishing American owned factories overseas?


4 posted on 11/29/2013 6:41:53 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: central_va

What’s wrong with liberty?


5 posted on 11/29/2013 6:43:35 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Are you arguing in favor of force or choice?


6 posted on 11/29/2013 6:43:54 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fascism?


7 posted on 11/29/2013 6:44:37 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I am arguing in favor of bringing back American jobs.

How we do that is certainly up to everyone, but we have sold out American businesses.

In the meanwhile we have racked up $17 TRILLION DEBT, and growing. Debt.

Debt. American debt.

We need to make things right here.

Bring back American jobs. Now.


8 posted on 11/29/2013 6:46:29 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Hey Johnny One-Note. Your comments have nothing to do with the subject at hand.


9 posted on 11/29/2013 6:49:53 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is simply not in our national interest to offshore so much technology production—especially to potential adversaries. All thought the Cold War, we had very strict laws about technology export and realized the need for an industrial base. After the Cold War, we got complacent, greedy, and stupid—with emphasis on the stupid.


10 posted on 11/29/2013 6:52:18 AM PST by rbg81
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To: SVTCobra03

Sure they do.

China is becoming a manufacturing powerhouse. A lot of that manufacturing is Chinese exports right back to America.

So China gets stronger, and stronger, and stronger.

America meanwhile is 17 trillion dollars and growing, in debt.

And importing everything. Becoming weaker.

America needs to stop offshoring our industry. It is now about national security.

Build stuff, and buy stuff, from America.


11 posted on 11/29/2013 6:55:03 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: SVTCobra03

He is truly tedious. Don’t feed the trolls.


12 posted on 11/29/2013 6:58:04 AM PST by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: kristinn
Don't worry, the man who managed the wind down of Iraq and Afghanistan, the revolution in Egypt, the fiasco in Benghazi, the red line in Syria, the man whose signal domestic achievement is Obamacare, has all this under control. There is no need to worry about the world's largest nation, a nuclear nation, the second largest industrial power on earth, America's largest creditor, flexing its muscles in its own backyard which is all the way across the Pacific from America, because Obama is not.

No, there is absolutely no danger that this could spin out of control and erupt into nuclear war.


13 posted on 11/29/2013 7:06:51 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sure we can boycott China, but that will not bring those jobs back to America.

The manufacturers will merely seek out another third world country that pays it’s workers little or nothing, while avoiding our $11.00 minimum wage and Union demands.

The way to bring back America is to stop paying people for not working. Sure that sounds harsh, but people are simply not going to work if they can sit home and get paid for doing nothing.


14 posted on 11/29/2013 7:20:27 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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RE: It is simply not in our national interest to offshore so much technology production—especially to potential adversaries.

So, I guess there ought to be a law BANNING the Intels and Microsofts of this country from offshoring their products overseas then... (Microsoft has a HUGE development center in China, it could be that some of the MSFT products you and I use are developed there ).

Look, TSMC ( Taiwan Semicondictor Manufacturing Corp. ) is one of America’s chip making fab source, do we write a law BANNING chip making by American companies in Taiwan? ( Remember, they TRADE with China )


15 posted on 11/29/2013 7:22:12 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; 1010RD
You are quite right in your analysis and in your remedies.

One caveat, the hollowing out of American manufacturing and many American industries which we might define as "service" industries has proceeded much as Obamacare proceeds, as a method of wealth transfer on a massive scale. What we are doing is impoverishing some parts of America, primarily blue-collar skilled workers by shipping their high paid, value-added jobs to places like China and increasingly to India, while we enrich the stakeholders in multinational companies. They profit because they pay lower wages and receive tax advantages for sending jobs overseas.

Meanwhile, the Fed pumps hundreds of billions into the economy which finds its way primarily into the stock market and inflates the value of the stock held by these stakeholders at a rate faster certainly than inflation.

The impoverished workers do receive cheaper goods from China through Walmart etc. but the game has long played out and is now only being sustained by the Fed and by the fact that the dollar is still the world's reserve currency. That too is coming to an end.

There are, of course, countervailing benefits coming from increased world trade but they are outweighed by the disadvantages America faces in its higher costs due to higher wages, regulations, especially environmental regulations, and it's disincentivized tax system. Our recent experiments with crony capitalism and the extension of the military-industrial complex into the whole of the American economy means that, increasingly, our resources and assets are being diverted into politically correct enterprises rather than those which bring wealth home from a mercantile world.


16 posted on 11/29/2013 7:24:25 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: 1010RD

Running a trade deficit with a Communist country IS THE OPPOSITE OF LIBERTY. It is stupidity.


17 posted on 11/29/2013 7:25:20 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind
And how exactly do we do that short of outlawing establishing American owned factories overseas?

Tariffs.

18 posted on 11/29/2013 7:26:00 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SVTCobra03

Being beholding to ChiComs has EVRYTHING to do with the subject.


19 posted on 11/29/2013 7:26:55 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We should. The sun would still rise in the morning, but a lot of other potential problems would be solved.

The export of our technical and industrial base is kicking us in the a$$ in a thousand ways, but its possible to go through life ignoring it. One day we won’t be able to ignore it any more—probably after we lose our Pacific fleet.


20 posted on 11/29/2013 7:27:25 AM PST by rbg81
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