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Chilling moment police decide to shoot dead mental patient armed with scissors ....
The Daily Mail Online ^ | November 29, 2013 | Alex Ward

Posted on 11/29/2013 7:24:42 AM PST by Uncle Chip

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51 posted on 11/29/2013 10:22:13 AM PST by Bikkuri
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To: alley cat

Not fair.. Libs have labeled ANYTHING as “depression” or “PTSD” in the last decade to be able to ‘medicate’ to ‘fix the problem’ (and make more sub-servant slaves) in the last 2+ decades :p

(and this is leaving out the homos and peds... >.<)


52 posted on 11/29/2013 10:26:16 AM PST by Bikkuri
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To: Uncle Chip

No taser and evidently no billy clubs available - hell, even a tire iron would have worked. Or a rock or other debris might have been available. But, as a few of the Cop apologists will assert, being crazy or confused is no reason not to obey a LEO’s demands and if you do not comply, you should expect to be shot dead.


53 posted on 11/29/2013 10:28:03 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Uncle Chip
Again how about some bear spray? That stuff will and has stopped 1200 lbs polar bears. So are you telling me that it would not stop a human?

When people get shot by cops it is cause those cops just want to shot people.
54 posted on 11/29/2013 10:31:16 AM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: Uncle Chip

Up above on a new thread is the story of another knife-wielding maniac, at a hospital in Longview, TX. In this incident a nurse was stabbed in the chest and died.

I wouldn’t fool around with scissor-wielding nutcases. Especially one who has already proven violent, having stabbed a victim. He keeps coming at you, blow his head off. Cops would have done the same thing here in my locality in Texas. Same thing 20 years ago. 50 years ago. 100 years ago. And they wouldn’t have given it a second thought. Nor would I.

Might seem too harsh to the sensibilities of the faggoty, circa-2013 America, who’ve gorged on decades of tv-shows with metrosexual police officers who calmly and comfortingly “talk down” wackos into dropping their weapons, via soliloquies about birds and trees and the beauty of life.


55 posted on 11/29/2013 11:02:43 AM PST by greene66
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To: ansel12
Yep, Melony Springer was going to kill him before the LAPD took over, but no good deed goes unpunished.

Of the 4 I did think the one did go too far in the very end. I would not have held the guy in charge accountable for that at all though.

56 posted on 11/29/2013 11:53:05 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: vette6387

Don’t feel sorry for me, you should go ride along with police and offer to tackle all the people that come at them or others to show everyone the right way to do it.


57 posted on 11/29/2013 11:55:25 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Hugin

The guy had a leathal weapon and the police IMO don’t have to get hurt or killed removing it from them. They are not paid to come in second IMO.


58 posted on 11/29/2013 11:56:47 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Sherman Logan

King was on all kinds of drugs, had dropped his pants and told everyone to kiss his ass and so forth.
Lots happened before he got hurt.

Had the Highway patrol had just shot him before they LAPD took over they way they were going to do we would have been spared a lot of riots and racial BS in this country for 20 years.


59 posted on 11/29/2013 11:58:59 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: headstamp 2
...psychotics can be noted for their extreme strength and difficulty to subdue.

That may be true, but it is irrelevant, unless you have more information than is in the article, which says he was being treated for depression.

60 posted on 11/29/2013 12:00:20 PM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got eight? NRA Life Member])
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To: Bikkuri

Lots of cop-haters, aren’t there?

I’m lucky enough to live in an area where most LEOs still regard themselves as public servants, and carry out their duties accordingly.

That notwithstanding it amuses me to see the calls for magical hai karate nightstick moves.

It’s just like people who have never seen a firearm except in a movie wondering why policemen or civilians just don’t shoot the lunatic’s gun/knife/scissors out of his hand, or shoot out the tires on a speeding getaway car.

What’s more we often see (rightly, IMO) staunch defense offered by posters when a private citizen blows away a thug who threatens any kind of violence.


61 posted on 11/29/2013 12:12:35 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: greene66

How many constables do you count in that picture — 6.

And those 6 were incapable of physically subduing a guy wearing socks without shooting him three times.

No one thought to get behind him and whack him, or whack the scissors out of his hand, or grab him, or stomp on his foot, or ....

6 on 1 and that is the best these bright minds could come uup with??

And that’s okay with you???

Is that your idea of professional law enforcement.

I know 5th graders who could have taken him down.

Do us all a favor and stay out of law enforcement, off of police forces, and out of schools where kids have scissors.


62 posted on 11/29/2013 12:19:06 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Yes, I’m okay with it.

Violent nutcase on a stabbing spree stopped cold. A perfectly positive ending.


63 posted on 11/29/2013 12:42:58 PM PST by greene66
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To: A CA Guy

Not many people are aware of the 13 seconds that the media cut from the beginning of the beating video, showing King going for that cop’s throat.


64 posted on 11/29/2013 12:51:58 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee-JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12
Right, the police defending that suit said the video wasn't a fair account.

Again, would have been better for all if the Highway Patrol officer (who later testified against the LAPD) shot Rodney King as she intended to. Would have worked out better for all.

65 posted on 11/29/2013 12:55:21 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

That is absolutely wrong, and a very dangerous and creepy attitude.


66 posted on 11/29/2013 1:06:02 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee-JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: A CA Guy

“Don’t feel sorry for me, you should go ride along with police and offer to tackle all the people that come at them or others to show everyone the right way to do it.”

While I grant you that cops have to deal with the $h!t of society, it does not give them a “pass” to abuse everyone in the name of “I get to go home tonight.”
How do you justify what the Sheriff’s Deputy in Santa Rosa did to a 13yo carrying a toy AK? I mean seven rounds in his back because he didn’t drop it fast enough.
Just too many bad apples in the “cop barrel” for me. They are not here to help, but rather find some reason to arrest or kill you.


67 posted on 11/29/2013 1:30:17 PM PST by vette6387
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To: greene66

These mentally ill people that are roaming the streets need to be humanely locked up and treated so that they are not put down by citizens and cops.

That being said, these cops need to be fired for not able to handle a single nut.


68 posted on 11/29/2013 2:38:01 PM PST by sagar
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To: vette6387

The ones who are not problems don’t make trouble. If there are problem ones they should be handled.
But a person coming at you with a weapon should rarely survive IMO more than those they go after.


69 posted on 11/29/2013 4:47:09 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ansel12
Springer was going to off King because of the aggressive behavior. LAPD stepped in and for the most part did well except for one of the four in the last couple of seconds.
Mayor Bradley came out after the court case and suggested people riot. They rioted, the city burned and race relations got worse over a drug addict criminal that was responsible for the mess.

Yes, rather than the fires and death related to King, IMO would have been better had Springer legally ended him before the LAPD tried to help.
NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.

70 posted on 11/29/2013 4:54:40 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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“But a person coming at you with a weapon should rarely survive IMO more than those they go after.”

Well, I have a big problem with killing a old man with Alzheimers and a pair of scissors. This guy didn’t pose a real threat to the cops. We had two incidents with the Contra Costa County Sheriff’s Dept. masquerading as the San Ramon PD.
In one case they were asked by a concerned out of area friend to call on a resident female whom the concerned party thought might be suicidal. She let the officers in and then grabbed a knife off the counter and was shot dead on the spot. She was Asian and all of five feet tall! That’s just murder by cop! Although our retired police chief called it “suicide by cop.” I had to give up being his friend because he saw everything in life through the twisted prism of “law enforcement.” Everyone was a crook waiting to happen. Everyone was an inveterate lawbreaker. When we disagreed, I was a “cop hater” because I didn’t see things his way. Good law enforcement has gone the way of the do-do bird. Just union thugs with guns and bad attitudes toward everyone but other cops! They are the last people I would call if trouble arises.


71 posted on 11/29/2013 5:28:19 PM PST by vette6387
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To: A CA Guy

God save us from nuts like you, street executions by the cops for displaying attitude or drunken/stoned shenanigans is something only an unserious poster would be thinking is valid or sane.

You really sound like some fearful home body.


72 posted on 11/29/2013 5:30:55 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee-JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Fightin Whitey

“What’s more we often see (rightly, IMO) staunch defense offered by posters when a private citizen blows away a thug who threatens any kind of violence.”

Kinda tells you how the general population regards LEOs doesn’t it! And they also know if they “take care of business themselves,” 1) They don’t have to wait for “help” to arrive and 2) their family pets will not be at risk.


73 posted on 11/29/2013 5:38:45 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Uncle Chip; a fool in paradise

How do you shoot with scissors? And why shoot mental patients already dead? Mysteries of life!


74 posted on 11/29/2013 5:40:49 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!
"armed with scissors ...."

(file photo)

75 posted on 11/29/2013 5:52:00 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: ansel12

Every policeman needs a bouncer for a partner. Save lots of $$$ on bullets. One that loves dogs.


76 posted on 11/29/2013 5:59:12 PM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: Anton.Rutter

There was a time when cops were expected to solve problems without just looking over the situation and then killing anyone who was out of line, or who looked like a possible threat, that is why they carried billy clubs, it is also why they were required to be large men.


77 posted on 11/29/2013 6:11:48 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee-JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: vette6387

If they think he was a real threat then you have to defend yourself and others.


78 posted on 11/29/2013 7:57:28 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ansel12
The problem was how someone like this was able to get out. They have alarms you put on such people to prevent this and in case you didn't know it, the elderly with memory loss can be very agitated and get violent.
While violent with a scissors they can hurt others and if cops take them out somehow I can't blame them because they don't know what people are going to do and they are armed and police don't know everyone’s history.
79 posted on 11/29/2013 8:01:45 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
While violent with a scissors they can hurt others and if cops take them out somehow I can't blame them because they don't know what people are going to do and they are armed and police don't know everyone’s history.

You seem like a real asset to the manly race of heroes and protectors.

80 posted on 11/29/2013 8:05:53 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee-JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: A CA Guy

Let me try again,

Before affirmative action, cops had to pass intelligence tests, and be large men.

Cops were expected to save most people, (dads, sons, husbands, workers, customers, citizens of our community) from themselves and whatever goofiness they were doing at the time, they may be drunk or confused, or angry, or whatever, but the cop was expected to diffuse the problem, with some risk to himself if needed, not identify who the guy causing the noise was, and then gun him down.


81 posted on 11/29/2013 8:16:19 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee-JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: a fool in paradise

LOL

Does that mean no snow for Toronto this year???


82 posted on 11/30/2013 4:49:43 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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