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New startup wants to create a biofuel from, basically, whiskey
Esquire ^ | Thur Nov 21, 2013 | James Joiner

Posted on 11/29/2013 6:25:04 PM PST by posterchild

You may not be able to drink and drive, but pretty soon your car will be able to. That's the goal of a new project based—where else—in Scotland that is using some next-level alchemy for a new take on the lead-into-gold cliché: turning golden whiskey into unleaded fuel.

Biofuel, that is.

Don't worry, they're not going to be taking your precious Scottish nectar itself to the pumps, it's actually way better than that. The folks at Celtic Renewables Inc. want to synthesize the waste left behind when the whiskey is finished, which accounts for as much as 90% of the raw materials, into something called biobutanol; basically ethanol with a Lance Armstrong complex. You see, ethanol, whose production is subsidized in the U.S. and is made primarily from government-subsidized corn, can only be used as a 10% additive to standard fermented dinosaur origin gas. But biobutanol is so damn potent, only ten or twenty percent less than gasoline's, it can be mixed at a much higher level.

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Drink scotch whiskey all night long and drive behind the wheel less expensively.
1 posted on 11/29/2013 6:25:04 PM PST by posterchild
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To: posterchild; tomkow6; Bender2; All

OMG I can’t imagine doing this ROFL


2 posted on 11/29/2013 6:27:03 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: posterchild

Isn’t whiskey a lot more expensive?


3 posted on 11/29/2013 6:27:15 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: posterchild

Yes, butanol would be a far superior fuel than ethanol
if the cost to manufacture could be brought down.


4 posted on 11/29/2013 6:30:18 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: posterchild

Let’s just do white lightning!

It worked for the Clampetts. :D


5 posted on 11/29/2013 6:42:27 PM PST by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: GeronL

I’m sipping Glenlivet Single Malt ‘21’ at $97/ bottle. I’ll be damned if I’ll run my 2002 Jeep on that nectar.


6 posted on 11/29/2013 6:42:56 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill
“I’m sipping Glenlivet Single Malt ‘21’ at $97/ bottle. I’ll be damned if I’ll run my 2002 Jeep on that nectar.”

How many miles would I have to push your Jeep for you to share a couple of fingers?

7 posted on 11/29/2013 6:49:38 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: posterchild

Laughing at your Faganism. Thanks.


8 posted on 11/29/2013 6:52:14 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: posterchild

dinosaur origin gas? huh.


9 posted on 11/29/2013 6:56:21 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: posterchild

Make methanol out of natural gas...we more NG than we know what to do with.

Put corn back in the food chain, and save the ethanol for “medicinal purposes”.


10 posted on 11/29/2013 6:57:24 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ("The government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: SevenofNine

Isn’t this some kind of sacrilege ?
People have been flogged for less.


11 posted on 11/29/2013 6:58:22 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Repeal The 17th
Yes, butanol would be a far superior fuel than ethanol if the cost to manufacture could be brought down.

I work in the biofuels and do not see how this idea could even come close to being economically viable.

12 posted on 11/29/2013 7:01:19 PM PST by suijuris
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To: posterchild

Getting tanked.....takes on a new meaning...


13 posted on 11/29/2013 7:02:23 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: posterchild

THEY CAN HAVE MY WHISKEY FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!


14 posted on 11/29/2013 7:04:29 PM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: posterchild

Get the alcohol out of fuel totally, it’as a crappy fuel unless you’re racing and don’t give a damn how much you burn!

I ran it racing in the early 50s and wouldn’t think of using it for a transportation fuel!


15 posted on 11/29/2013 7:05:29 PM PST by dalereed
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To: posterchild

16 posted on 11/29/2013 7:08:09 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Put corn back in the food chain,

Corn is not removed from the food chain in making ethanol. It is merely diverted for a short period of time for processing while the sugars are removed to produce ethanol. The result known as distillers grains is enriched high cattle feed. When properly balanced in cattle rations it can increase their productivity by as much as 10 percent.

17 posted on 11/29/2013 7:08:34 PM PST by suijuris
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To: CrazyIvan

Hop in - it runs just fine - you get 3 fingers, FReeper-FRiend, neat, or if you desire ice.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, it’s delicious and special.


18 posted on 11/29/2013 7:09:46 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: posterchild

Beer for my horse, whiskey for my car.


19 posted on 11/29/2013 7:09:50 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: posterchild; a fool in paradise

“I asked for water, she gave me gasoline!”


20 posted on 11/29/2013 7:11:37 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: carriage_hill

And I was impresses by my Bowmore.


21 posted on 11/29/2013 7:13:14 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: suijuris
The result known as distillers grains is enriched high cattle feed.

Can you make corn flakes out of it?

22 posted on 11/29/2013 7:15:51 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ("The government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: suijuris

Cattle feed?
Aren’t we all supposed to become vegans now?


23 posted on 11/29/2013 7:18:51 PM PST by Zuse
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To: Chickensoup

Glenfiddich, Balmoral, Bowmore, Highland, Speyside, Island etc are all great/good single malt Scotches. But I do like The Glenlivet ‘21’ regularly, and ‘The 25’, when I can find it, in stock. Smooth as silk...


24 posted on 11/29/2013 7:23:06 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Thorliveshere
Can't have White Lightning mentioned without hearing from The Possum.
25 posted on 11/29/2013 7:26:38 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: posterchild

Be green, drink Black Label!


26 posted on 11/29/2013 7:28:36 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Rodamala

Faganism or Fagenism?


27 posted on 11/29/2013 7:31:16 PM PST by posterchild
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To: GeronL
Isn’t whiskey a lot more expensive?

When does that matter to government? They use crops as fuel for vehicles, instead of food for people.

28 posted on 11/29/2013 7:32:20 PM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: wastedyears

Maybe some day we will use people for fuel

S-OIL-ent Green


29 posted on 11/29/2013 7:35:57 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL
thats disrespectful of our great leader who would never allow that to happen...





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30 posted on 11/29/2013 7:51:02 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Can you make corn flakes out of it?

I suppose you could but you would probably not like the taste. Corn flakes are made from sweet corn. In fact humans only consume 12% of the corn produced in the US, almost all of which is sweet corn. The rest is feed corn used primarily for cattle feed and various starch and oil byproducts.

31 posted on 11/29/2013 7:53:24 PM PST by suijuris
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To: suijuris

What fuel do you use to distill the alcohol, and how much energy does it take to produce a gallon of ethanol?


32 posted on 11/29/2013 8:20:56 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ("The government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: MeshugeMikey

I may have to appropriate that graphic...


33 posted on 11/29/2013 8:28:07 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: posterchild

The best fuel would be methanol. Leave the ethanol for licker.


34 posted on 11/29/2013 8:40:43 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Army Air Corps

by all means do

I havent enough time to post em everywhere Id like to!


35 posted on 11/29/2013 8:45:36 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Can you make corn flakes out of it?

No. But you can make scrap metal out of your gasoline powered lawn tools with it

36 posted on 11/29/2013 8:46:07 PM PST by digger48
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To: GeronL

Democrats!


37 posted on 11/29/2013 10:37:36 PM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: GeronL

I think they have lost all reason and logic at this point.

The words ‘renewable’ and ‘bio-fuel’ have overcome all senses. The truth is they do not care about he cost if it can keep those greedy oil companies from making a profit.

If they were actually forced to critically think about it, using food staples (corn, for instance) to make ethanol, or the time and trouble it takes to make Whiskey (and then further produce into a fuel) would jump out at them as being idiotic. But they aren’t interested in that.


38 posted on 11/30/2013 3:54:52 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: posterchild

Interesting articles. Corn growers are now protesting the EPA’s “war on corn.” Hard to believe the EPA would EVER back off on one of its babies.

November 2013 — The Obama administration announces it wants to reduce the amount of ethanol in the nation’s fuel supply, acknowledging the biofuel law championed by both parties in 2007 is not working as well as expected. The change would require almost 3 billion fewer gallons of biofuel to be blended into gasoline in 2014 than the law mandates.

http://www.businessinsider.com/big-oil-supports-the-epas-environmentally-friendly-anti-ethanol-rule-change-2013-11

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20131117/GREEN01/311170014/?nclick_check=1

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3077610/posts

ETHANOL timeline -

http://www.whig.com/story/24024448/a-timeline-of-recent-ethanol-events


39 posted on 11/30/2013 5:41:31 AM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: Right Wing Assault

Don’t get too excited. It’s a reduction in the amount of increase demanded, not a net reduction.

Low gas prices and low corn prices make expansion of ethanol production out of the question.


40 posted on 11/30/2013 5:48:25 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

“The EPA’s idea is to put 15.2 billion gallons of ethanol in gasoline in 2014 rather than the 16.55 billion used this year.”

Sure sounds like a decrease.


41 posted on 11/30/2013 6:34:11 AM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: posterchild

——biobutanol——

Can be produced from Kudzu I understand but it is expensive.


42 posted on 11/30/2013 6:40:10 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Kind of right. The 2014 mandate was for over 18 billion gallons. That has been scaled back to around 15 billion gallons, same as 2012. The 2013 TARGET was over 16 billion gallons.

The numbers for 2013 aren’t actually in yet, and it’s well known that ethanol plants have been struggling with profitably. And blenders can buy RINs (Renewable Identification Numbers) to offset using less biofuel.

And, of course, it’s not a done deal. Final rules won’t be known for a few months.


43 posted on 11/30/2013 7:10:57 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: posterchild

If you’re driving, have another drink. Face traffic with confidence!


44 posted on 11/30/2013 9:18:18 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Zuse
Aren’t we all supposed to become vegans now?

Corn: It's what food eats!

45 posted on 11/30/2013 9:20:28 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: posterchild

Ewe no wut I meen.


46 posted on 11/30/2013 9:07:50 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: carriage_hill

Next time I’m in your neck of the woods............


47 posted on 12/01/2013 10:55:29 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: CrazyIvan

I just picked-up a bottle of Glenlivet ‘21’ ($149.92) on Saturday, and it is worth every penny. I’m out of my- pay grade now, so that’ll be a one-time purchase. Every sip is heaven.


48 posted on 12/01/2013 11:45:44 AM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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