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NC Democrats: Too early to tell health care’s election impact (PLEASE change the conversation)
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| Renee Schoof
Posted on 11/30/2013 12:18:55 PM PST by Libloather
Democratic leaders in counties across the state say they dont think problems with the health care law will hurt their party or Democratic Sen. Kay Hagans re-election efforts next year even as they work on a post-holiday game plan to change the conversation.
Local Democrats havent done a lot to get their message out yet, but Campbell said it will be along these lines: Why wouldnt we want health care for everyone? Isnt that a good thing? Yes, its complicated and yes its having problems launching. We hate that, and Im ever hopeful it will start working better soon.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsobserver.com ...
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: conversation; election; healthcare; huaca; husseins; kayhagan; nc; northcarolina; obamacare; unaffordablecareact
Many people there arent signing up for health insurance because they dont understand the system, he said. And the other ones figure, Insurance? I cant even pay my bills.
Husseincare comes first. The IRS will make sure of it.
Too early to stop BS-ing about ObamaCare’s election impact.
posted on 11/30/2013 12:22:01 PM PST
by Steely Tom
(If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
Keep throwing blankets on the fire trying too smother it to death, like obabacare death panels, throw lots of blankets, this one is gonna shoulder awhile.
posted on 11/30/2013 12:30:41 PM PST
Smolder. Smoulder. Whatever, not shoulder, damn android keyboard. :-)
posted on 11/30/2013 12:31:58 PM PST
They’re correct. It is too early to tell just how devastating this will be to Democrats.
We still have all the horror stories to play out in the new year. People who have no idea what deductible means, who won’t be able to afford their meds. Patients who’s doctors tell them they can’t see them anymore. New Medicaid people who are told there’s a six month wait for an appointment.
This will be the gift that keeps on giving. Topping it all off will be the mass cancellations next fall.
You can slab on layer upon layer of lipstick on this pig, but the pig is still a pig — ask obama.
posted on 11/30/2013 1:30:25 PM PST
they can’t lie their way out of this and their propagandists MSM can’t save them either with lies, the impact is being felt and will continue to get worse.
posted on 11/30/2013 1:37:56 PM PST
(Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. DonÂ’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
Change the conversation to amnesty or quota queens on the Supreme Court.
Obamacare - like ObamaPhones - helps primarily one group over all others... it helps American blacks.
And since democrats have to fight for the black vote normally (/s) it makes perfect sense for them to cater to blacks...
Republicans will be stuck with all those dems who are NOT black... and those who are not members of the white liberal elite ruling class that blacks prop up.
posted on 11/30/2013 2:07:29 PM PST
("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Why wouldnt we want health care for everyone? Isnt that a good thing? Yes, its complicated and yes its having problems launching. We hate that, and Im ever hopeful it will start working better soon.
posted on 11/30/2013 2:46:22 PM PST
“NC Democrats: Too early to tell health cares election impact (PLEASE change the conversation)” yes we’ll have to wait to see if Hagan runs or bails a la Eve Hudak in Colorado.
posted on 11/30/2013 4:00:31 PM PST
(Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
Husseincare comes first. The IRS will make sure of it.
Can't wait until all them low-info, don't-pay-taxes-but-get-a-refund, folks discover that "free" means "later and maybe" and having a refund due means they can take it instead of giving it to you.
Count on the IRS continuing strong arm tactics and overstepping its authority under even this bad law. It may provide a final tipping point as the People get one more look at despotic subjugation.
On the flip side, the People have had many looks at what is going on and have yet to rise up and say, "Enough!"...
posted on 12/01/2013 4:19:14 AM PST
(Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
Liberals LIE .... ALWAYS !!!
Only idiots and the evil voted for Obama, or ANY of the Democrats.
They've lied to us, constantly, and really are "Collapsing the System".
And now, these "Useful IDIOTS" who voted for them, are buying the lies that "Obamacare was designed to work." ?
It was designed to fail from the start.
THEN ... THEY GO TO THE "SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM"
They've been sucking our wallets dry for over four years now on the "Obamacare" LIE.
AND NOW THEY WANT MORE TAXES ?
Our Founding Fathers would have hung them already!
Who was it that cut future funding for Medicare by $575 billion?
...the president and the Democratic Party successfully bamboozle voters... The 2012 election could turn on this falsehood.
The truth is that the Obama health law reduces future funding for Medicare by $575 billion over the next 10 years ...
Mr. Obama and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius frequently make that false claim.
Indeed, even Medicare's mailings to seniors repeat the claim that reducing spending on Medicare will make it more financially secure for future years.
The fact is that Mr. Obama's law raids Medicare.
Who was it that moved Medicare Trust Funds out of the "trust box" and into the General Revenue, replacing them with Government I.O.U.s?
Who was it that expanded Medicare and Medicaid to cover many, many more people than it was originally designed to cover?
The History of Medicare
In 1965, the Social Security Act established both Medicare and Medicaid. Medicare was a responsibility of the Social Security Administration (SSA), while Federal assistance to the State Medicaid programs was administered by the Social and Rehabilitation Service (SRS). SSA and SRS were agencies in the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare (HEW). In 1977, the Health Care Financing Administration was created under HEW to effectively coordinate Medicare and Medicaid. In 1980 HEW was divided into the Department of Education and the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).
The first U.S. President to propose a prepaid health insurance plan was Harry S. Truman [DEMOCRAT]. On November 19, 1945, in a special message to Congress, President Truman outlined a comprehensive, prepaid medical insurance plan for all people through the Social Security system. The plan included doctors and hospitals, and nursing, laboratory, and dental services; it was dubbed "National Health Insurance." Furthermore, medical insurance benefits for needy people were to be financed from Federal revenues.
Over the years, lawmakers narrowed the field of health insurance recipients largely to social security beneficiaries. A national survey found that only 56 percent of those 65 years of age or older had health insurance. President John F. Kennedy [DEMOCRAT] pressed legislators for health insurance for the aged. However, it wasn't until 1965 that President Lyndon B. Johnson signed H.R. 6675 (The Social Security Act of 1965; PL 89-97) to provide health insurance for the elderly and the poor.
On July 30, 1965, President Johnson signed the Medicare and Medicaid Bill (Title XVIII and Title XIX of the Social Security Act) in Independence, Missouri in the presence of former President Truman, who received the first Medicare card at the ceremony; Lady Bird Johnson, Vice-President Hubert Humphrey, and Mrs. Truman also were present. President Johnson remarked: "We marvel not simply at the passage of this Bill but that it took so many years to pass it."
Medicare extended health coverage to almost all Americans aged 65 or older. About 19 million beneficiaries enrolled in Medicare in the first year of the program. Medicaid provided access to health care services for certain low-income persons and expanded the existing Federal-State welfare structure that assisted the poor.
The 1972 Social Security Amendments expanded Medicare to provide coverage to two additional high risk groups disabled persons receiving cash benefits for 24 months under the social security program and persons suffering from end-stage renal disease.
...(continued at link)
Sen Mark Kirk's statement
Thursday, Dec 1, 2011 ...
"There are 55 million Social Security beneficiaries that will see little or no extra cash from this 2012 tax holiday; instead, the dedicated payroll contributions meant to pay for future benefits are being diverted from the Trust Fund
and replaced with Treasury debt that does not even have a AAA credit rating.
Social Security was designed to be independent and free from the danger of Congressional manipulation,
and maintaining the firewall between the Social Security Trust Fund and general government funding is the best way to maintain the solvency of this important program.
Neither bill protects the Social Security Trust Fund
so I voted no. "
It's not our fault that DEMOCRATS raided the Social Security Trust Fund.
Let's remember ...
Not ALL are to blame for the empty lock box.
Let's take a deeper look.
Okay, then the DEMOCRATS need to shut up!!!
posted on 12/01/2013 4:23:52 AM PST
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
Does this mean I won’t get my .025 percent increase on soc sec?
... or Democratic Sen. Kay Hagans re-election efforts next year ...
As I've been ranting in related threads concerning Obamacare and midterm elections, if patriots and former Obama supporters can organize to elect 2/3 conservative majorities in both Houses of Congress in midterm elections, then Congress will be positioned to do the following concerning Obamacare.
Two thirds conservative majority control of Congress will give Congress the power, under the Constitution's Clause 2 of Section 7 of Article I, to override presidential vetoes. In other words, Congress will be able to repeal unconstitutional Obamacare without Obama's signature.
Note that regardless that RINO Boehner, Reid, Obama and activist justices don't want voters to find out that the states have never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate healthcare, it remains that the states have the 10th Amendment-protected power to regulate, tax and spend for public healthcare purposes. So the states can use the tax dollars, that people would otherwise use to pay for Obamacare, as state revenues to pay for state healthcare programs.
And where state healthcare programs are concerned, the frosting on the cake for voters is that voters can take advantange of state recall laws for politicians who mismanage state healthcare programs.
Finally, note that enough conservatives to compensate for Democratic ballot box stuffing need to get out to vote for conservatives for midterm elections.
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