Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

TBN Founder Paul Crouch Dies at Age 79 After Chronic Heart Problems
The Christian Post ^ | November 30, 2013 | Jennifer Riley

Posted on 11/30/2013 1:46:42 PM PST by fwdude

Paul Franklin Crouch, co-founder of Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN), is dead at age 79, reported his grandson Brandon Crouch on Saturday.

"Today, my grandfather, #PaulCrouchSr went home to be with Jesus in heaven. Thank you for your prayers…" Brandon Crouch tweeted.

TBN's official Facebook page later released the announcement about Crouch's death: "Dr Paul F Crouch passed into the presence of the Lord on November 30, 2013. We are grateful for the life of this amazing servant of God. Please pray for the Crouch family during this time. #paulcrouch #tbn"

(Excerpt) Read more at christianpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christianmedia; christians; obituary; paulcrouch; tbn
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-150151-200201-237 next last
Paul Crouch Death
1 posted on 11/30/2013 1:46:43 PM PST by fwdude
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: fwdude; Jeremiah Jr

This ought to be an interesting thread!


2 posted on 11/30/2013 1:48:56 PM PST by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ezekiel

I kept my mouth closed deliberately.


3 posted on 11/30/2013 1:49:42 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

Quote: “We don’t need no theology!” - Paul Crouch.


4 posted on 11/30/2013 1:51:29 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

what he did not have enough faith to have a healing himself? what a relief that this con-artist is now gone! he is not in heaven, he is sitting at the feet of Beelzebuub!


5 posted on 11/30/2013 1:52:16 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

I’d settle for 75 here.

No one knows the number to their days.

‘Til. The Timex stops tickin’.

RIP


6 posted on 11/30/2013 1:52:17 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: hondact200

I’d say that he lived to a ripe old age at 79. Not defending his heretical teaching, but he did die old. I’m sure that even prosperity teachers don’t teach that we live in our sinful old bodies forever.


7 posted on 11/30/2013 1:54:28 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: hondact200

“he is not in heaven, he is sitting at the feet of Beelzebuub!”

You definitely don’t get to decide that.


8 posted on 11/30/2013 1:59:13 PM PST by vladimir998
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

Closet homosexual. Husband and wife lives for years and separate dwellings.


9 posted on 11/30/2013 2:00:59 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

Is Madame Pompadour is preaching the “gospel”?


10 posted on 11/30/2013 2:02:58 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: vladimir998

You can certainly know a tree by its fruit.

Someone important told us that.


11 posted on 11/30/2013 2:03:29 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: hondact200
He did not have enough faith to have a healing himself? . . . con-artist is now gone?

He was old enough, he accomplished alot, who are you to judge a dead man?

What kind church do you go, btw? Tony Alamo? Fred Phelps?

12 posted on 11/30/2013 2:04:09 PM PST by hamboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

After Jan Crouch goes the whole operation will go to the dogs:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2119493/Private-jets-13-mansions-100-000-mobile-home-just-dogs-Televangelists-defrauded-tens-million-dollars-Christian-network.html

not saying its not there already!


13 posted on 11/30/2013 2:04:27 PM PST by RBStealth (--raised by wolves, disciplined and educated by nuns.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: fwdude
My departed mother years ago when alive volunteered on their prayer lines trying to do good and felt Paul and Jan were real way back in the 90s.
I don't know of any perfect people, but I do think they at least in the beginning were trying to spread the word of Christ.
Maybe or maybe not they became more about the money later, I don't know.
14 posted on 11/30/2013 2:04:57 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

ANOTHER QUOTE: “Hay Men, Hay Men!” - Madame Pompadour.


15 posted on 11/30/2013 2:05:11 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

16 posted on 11/30/2013 2:05:27 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PetroniusMaximus

Not that there is anything wrong with that.
Jim Bakker swore his problems were a result of Tammie Faye’s frigidity.


17 posted on 11/30/2013 2:05:33 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: A CA Guy

There is a lot of “The ends justifies the means” in that theological world. One of the things I grew to love about Methodism is the idea that you can lose your salvation.


18 posted on 11/30/2013 2:10:38 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Revolting cat!

She’s the one I can’t stand. So glad I don’t have a TV anymore and don’t even need to glimpse her while surfing the channels.

Follow all the moneys, honeys.


19 posted on 11/30/2013 2:11:35 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Remember, Tammy Faye has become a homosexual icon.


20 posted on 11/30/2013 2:12:32 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: hondact200

He might have gotten everything else wrong, but if he got this one thing right - alone and by itself - then he’s with Jesus right now.

God tells us in Romans (chapter 10) ... “ ... if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”


21 posted on 11/30/2013 2:12:54 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

So has Cher, Judy Garland, Broadway show tunes and Vaseline.


22 posted on 11/30/2013 2:15:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: AppyPappy

Well, according to my mom they were nice people and she was their at the ground floor and had lots of time with them. But, she was only a volunteer a couple of times a week.


23 posted on 11/30/2013 2:16:05 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

I read somewhere judge not lest you be judged.


24 posted on 11/30/2013 2:16:28 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

25 posted on 11/30/2013 2:16:40 PM PST by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

Yep, and what was Crouch’s fruit? His multiple heresies - some of which many Protestants adhere to - or his many thousands of devoted friends and followers?

Aren’t both his fruits?


26 posted on 11/30/2013 2:17:01 PM PST by vladimir998
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: A CA Guy

Like I said above, follow the money.

The network, whose headquarters is pictured, is seen on every continent but Antarctica 24 hours a day, seven days a week, raking in $92 million in donations in 2010 and $175 million in tax-free revenue

Sex scandals: The suit also accuses the network, whose headquarters is pictured from the roadside, of using funds to cover up additional sex scandals according to the Los Angeles Times’ review of the suit

Expenditures: Additional claims detail the purchase of two jets at a cost of $50 million and $8 million each, and 13 mansions across the U.S. reported as ‘guest homes’ or ‘church parsonages’


27 posted on 11/30/2013 2:19:07 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Star Traveler

Do you really believe that after all the fraudulent money they collected?


28 posted on 11/30/2013 2:21:02 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

TV religion is a criminal racket in America protected by the laws separating church from state, and by the naive suckers who fall for everything that is backed by the Bible.


29 posted on 11/30/2013 2:23:42 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Salvation

I believe what God tells us ...


30 posted on 11/30/2013 2:24:39 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Revolting cat!

I know a lot of good pastors on TV and radio. In fact I was just listening to one of the many I know just today — John MacArthur. And there are others that I watch and/or listen to. I just mention John MacArthur to give a “baseline” for what “I” am talking about.


31 posted on 11/30/2013 2:30:53 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

I don’t know much if anything about these people, so I’ll just say God have mercy on His soul, and I hope he knew Christ. Also, condolences to the wife.

But I just do not, and never will, understand the pink hair.


32 posted on 11/30/2013 2:30:58 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Star Traveler

God told you that Paul Crouch would go to heaven? LOL!


33 posted on 11/30/2013 2:35:58 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Star Traveler

How do you know he repented of his sins? Or are you now Jesus Christ and the Judge — Perfect Justice?


34 posted on 11/30/2013 2:37:14 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: mountainlion

As Christians we are commanded to discern and judge the teachings of others - otherwise the person who doesn’t will fall for any heresy. So ... “judgement” is necessary.

As far as the “judgement” as to whether one is saved or not — one can listen to the “why” of that person telling about being saved - but in the end “that ultimate judgement” does come down to God who knows whether that person is lying or telling the truth. Since we can’t see inside the heart and know whether that person has truly accepted Christ, we cannot a judge authoritatively on that particular subject.

But we can judge as to whether the “teachings” are correct according to scripture - and we are commanded to do that very thing.


35 posted on 11/30/2013 2:37:30 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Revolting cat!
Madame Pompadour..

lol...never heard that term before...

36 posted on 11/30/2013 2:38:26 PM PST by TomServo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Ezekiel

Not my place to judge the man....but if he is heaven...my bet his house is a lean-to...


37 posted on 11/30/2013 2:42:37 PM PST by Popman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Salvation

I quoted the “if” statement from God - which means that IF he did so — THEN — according to what God said, he is saved.

It’s an “if/then” statement, in which if you fulfill the first part, then the second part is true.

I’ll leave it up to others to discuss whether he fulfilled that “if/then” statement of God.

And God will KNOW (absolutely and authoritatively) whether he did fulfill that — which is something we don’t know with absolute authority, as we can’t see into the heart as God can.


38 posted on 11/30/2013 2:43:11 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Salvation

Gosh, I thought only God knows the hearts of man - remember King David who God called a man after his own heart, yet, he was also involved in murder and adultery. Do you believe he went to heaven - or Abraham’s bosom - as a place where the Old Testament prophets went until the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Yes, the graves opened when Jesus arose from the dead - and many walked the earth with him until they were taken to heaven. Its in the Gospel of Matthew.

I think it best to leave the judgment of this man up to Jesus - I don’t know much about them, so I’m thankful I don’t have a judgmental mind to make assumptions one way or the other.


39 posted on 11/30/2013 2:43:25 PM PST by Catsrus (A)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Salvation

If it doesn’t fit the Official Catholic Model — the Earthly Heaven Screening Committee — the Shoehorn To Pack Them Into The Box To Glory — to you they’re damned.

We won’t even TRY to convince you otherwise, unless you are willing to budge from that Model to something heretical, like the bible. Which tells of a grace that is larger than all your catechisms can embrace.

I don’t care how much Religion the fellow had. Did he have Faith?


40 posted on 11/30/2013 2:44:42 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

Are you aware of why Tammy Faye became an icon to the homosexual community? When she and Jim were going through the downfall of PTL - the homosexuals were the only ones who opened their homes and heart to her. She felt a special place in her heart for their standing by her during her time of trial. What did the Christians do? They shunned her and turned to gossip. How awful for the Christian community who claim to love God - to turn their backs when she needed them the most.

I liked Tammy Faye and believe she was earnest in her walk. I will leave the rewards or punishment up to the One who sits on the throne - and that isn’t me!


41 posted on 11/30/2013 2:47:40 PM PST by Catsrus (A)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Star Traveler

What has happened is that denominations have stepped up (Roman Catholic only one) and presumed that if They Did Not Call On The Lord Their Way, then They Cannot Be Saved. Human pride all of it — and very despicable.

They’ve taken getting on the stairway to heaven and made it into a PhD rocket science problem.


42 posted on 11/30/2013 2:47:52 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: Salvation
In he beginning it might have been different.
My mom who was Catholic still helped out there as well in the early 90s.

Eventually she went on to start a Catholic charity/home for people out of prison with someone, became a Third Order Carmelite nun, so she was too busy for TBN.

43 posted on 11/30/2013 2:50:11 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: HiTech RedNeck

Yeah, I also like to say that “becoming a Christian” doesn’t make you smart, right or even a theologian - but it does make you saved ... :-) ...

I do contend with a lot of the wrong teachings I hear “out there” - but I do realize that some of those who are in error about a lot of other teachings, may also be saved, according to what God has said about salvation.

AND ... for the record, I did not see that many of Paul Crouch’s statements and/or teachings were according to the Bible.


44 posted on 11/30/2013 2:53:33 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

If TBN had been run a bit differently, it could have been awesome


45 posted on 11/30/2013 2:54:01 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: HiTech RedNeck

To put in a good word for him, the network shows a lot of quality Christian movies uncut and commercial-free. I recall they had Mel Gibson’s “The Passion” running for several days last year during Holy Week.

The Catholic Church recognizes that non-Catholics can be saved, but that topic has been covered to death (pardon the pun) through the years on the Religion forum. Those threads seem more like an endless fight than a reasonable conversation.

I’ll just ask the Lord to give him eternal rest, and comfort his family.


46 posted on 11/30/2013 2:55:03 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: mountainlion

No man man made religious pomp and ceremony will save from death.

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:


47 posted on 11/30/2013 2:56:02 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Catsrus

The Christian communities tend to be embarrassed by enthusiasm.

This isn’t about Tammy Faye anyhow. One could speculate that the homo groups fooled her in her moment of need. I think Christians underestimate the power of God to turn even sins to the future benefit of the sinner.

One thing rings in my mind. Jesus told the Pharisees that the prostitutes were getting into the kingdom of heaven before the Pharisees were. We will forgive a sinner of some sins, but not of other sins, because we have created a false dichotomy. And sometimes the dichotomy is based in our own hypocrisies — our failure to respond to the gospel call to express the positive grace that is visibly lacking in those we consider the condemnable set. Of course those other people have a responsibility to God to express that grace too, but till WE do it, how are we going to lead THEM to do it? We won’t.

And I have a bit of a hobby horse here. Christian America has flunked the “glorify God in your bodies” test. Big time. That is why they cannot help homos and fall on the false dichotomy of either excusing the sin or execrating the sinners as being only stoneworthy. As a former sex sinner (though not by buggery) I find this bugs me big time. God had to walk me personally to that grace, with a few moments of precious help from loving Christians who understood my burden. The rest of Christian America was, in the main, too busy being hypocrites about their sex lives!


48 posted on 11/30/2013 3:00:14 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Catsrus

Tammy Faye was a grifter. That’s why the homosexuals loved her. She celebrated her sin just they they do.


49 posted on 11/30/2013 3:01:18 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Deo volente

I appreciate the Church Channel which is part of TBN. The line-up on Sunday evening is excellent. As far as the Bakkers. I tune in each evening to the Jim Bakker Show on TCT. Find it quite informative.

There is an eternity for everyone. The question is where?

www.patburt.com


50 posted on 11/30/2013 3:01:26 PM PST by Maudeen (Proverbs 3:5-6)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-150151-200201-237 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson