Skip to comments.TBN Founder Paul Crouch Dies at Age 79 After Chronic Heart Problems
Posted on 11/30/2013 1:46:42 PM PST by fwdude
Paul Franklin Crouch, co-founder of Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN), is dead at age 79, reported his grandson Brandon Crouch on Saturday.
"Today, my grandfather, #PaulCrouchSr went home to be with Jesus in heaven. Thank you for your prayers " Brandon Crouch tweeted.
TBN's official Facebook page later released the announcement about Crouch's death: "Dr Paul F Crouch passed into the presence of the Lord on November 30, 2013. We are grateful for the life of this amazing servant of God. Please pray for the Crouch family during this time. #paulcrouch #tbn"
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This ought to be an interesting thread!
I kept my mouth closed deliberately.
Quote: “We don’t need no theology!” - Paul Crouch.
what he did not have enough faith to have a healing himself? what a relief that this con-artist is now gone! he is not in heaven, he is sitting at the feet of Beelzebuub!
I’d settle for 75 here.
No one knows the number to their days.
‘Til. The Timex stops tickin’.
I’d say that he lived to a ripe old age at 79. Not defending his heretical teaching, but he did die old. I’m sure that even prosperity teachers don’t teach that we live in our sinful old bodies forever.
“he is not in heaven, he is sitting at the feet of Beelzebuub!”
You definitely don’t get to decide that.
Closet homosexual. Husband and wife lives for years and separate dwellings.
Is Madame Pompadour is preaching the “gospel”?
You can certainly know a tree by its fruit.
Someone important told us that.
He was old enough, he accomplished alot, who are you to judge a dead man?
What kind church do you go, btw? Tony Alamo? Fred Phelps?
After Jan Crouch goes the whole operation will go to the dogs:
not saying its not there already!
ANOTHER QUOTE: “Hay Men, Hay Men!” - Madame Pompadour.
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
Jim Bakker swore his problems were a result of Tammie Faye’s frigidity.
There is a lot of “The ends justifies the means” in that theological world. One of the things I grew to love about Methodism is the idea that you can lose your salvation.
She’s the one I can’t stand. So glad I don’t have a TV anymore and don’t even need to glimpse her while surfing the channels.
Follow all the moneys, honeys.
Remember, Tammy Faye has become a homosexual icon.
He might have gotten everything else wrong, but if he got this one thing right - alone and by itself - then he’s with Jesus right now.
God tells us in Romans (chapter 10) ... “ ... if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
So has Cher, Judy Garland, Broadway show tunes and Vaseline.
Well, according to my mom they were nice people and she was their at the ground floor and had lots of time with them. But, she was only a volunteer a couple of times a week.
I read somewhere judge not lest you be judged.
Yep, and what was Crouch’s fruit? His multiple heresies - some of which many Protestants adhere to - or his many thousands of devoted friends and followers?
Aren’t both his fruits?
Like I said above, follow the money.
The network, whose headquarters is pictured, is seen on every continent but Antarctica 24 hours a day, seven days a week, raking in $92 million in donations in 2010 and $175 million in tax-free revenue
Sex scandals: The suit also accuses the network, whose headquarters is pictured from the roadside, of using funds to cover up additional sex scandals according to the Los Angeles Times’ review of the suit
Expenditures: Additional claims detail the purchase of two jets at a cost of $50 million and $8 million each, and 13 mansions across the U.S. reported as ‘guest homes’ or ‘church parsonages’
Do you really believe that after all the fraudulent money they collected?
TV religion is a criminal racket in America protected by the laws separating church from state, and by the naive suckers who fall for everything that is backed by the Bible.
I believe what God tells us ...
I know a lot of good pastors on TV and radio. In fact I was just listening to one of the many I know just today — John MacArthur. And there are others that I watch and/or listen to. I just mention John MacArthur to give a “baseline” for what “I” am talking about.
I don’t know much if anything about these people, so I’ll just say God have mercy on His soul, and I hope he knew Christ. Also, condolences to the wife.
But I just do not, and never will, understand the pink hair.
God told you that Paul Crouch would go to heaven? LOL!
How do you know he repented of his sins? Or are you now Jesus Christ and the Judge — Perfect Justice?
As Christians we are commanded to discern and judge the teachings of others - otherwise the person who doesn’t will fall for any heresy. So ... “judgement” is necessary.
As far as the “judgement” as to whether one is saved or not — one can listen to the “why” of that person telling about being saved - but in the end “that ultimate judgement” does come down to God who knows whether that person is lying or telling the truth. Since we can’t see inside the heart and know whether that person has truly accepted Christ, we cannot a judge authoritatively on that particular subject.
But we can judge as to whether the “teachings” are correct according to scripture - and we are commanded to do that very thing.
lol...never heard that term before...
Not my place to judge the man....but if he is heaven...my bet his house is a lean-to...
I quoted the “if” statement from God - which means that IF he did so — THEN — according to what God said, he is saved.
It’s an “if/then” statement, in which if you fulfill the first part, then the second part is true.
I’ll leave it up to others to discuss whether he fulfilled that “if/then” statement of God.
And God will KNOW (absolutely and authoritatively) whether he did fulfill that — which is something we don’t know with absolute authority, as we can’t see into the heart as God can.
Gosh, I thought only God knows the hearts of man - remember King David who God called a man after his own heart, yet, he was also involved in murder and adultery. Do you believe he went to heaven - or Abraham’s bosom - as a place where the Old Testament prophets went until the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Yes, the graves opened when Jesus arose from the dead - and many walked the earth with him until they were taken to heaven. Its in the Gospel of Matthew.
I think it best to leave the judgment of this man up to Jesus - I don’t know much about them, so I’m thankful I don’t have a judgmental mind to make assumptions one way or the other.
If it doesn’t fit the Official Catholic Model — the Earthly Heaven Screening Committee — the Shoehorn To Pack Them Into The Box To Glory — to you they’re damned.
We won’t even TRY to convince you otherwise, unless you are willing to budge from that Model to something heretical, like the bible. Which tells of a grace that is larger than all your catechisms can embrace.
I don’t care how much Religion the fellow had. Did he have Faith?
Are you aware of why Tammy Faye became an icon to the homosexual community? When she and Jim were going through the downfall of PTL - the homosexuals were the only ones who opened their homes and heart to her. She felt a special place in her heart for their standing by her during her time of trial. What did the Christians do? They shunned her and turned to gossip. How awful for the Christian community who claim to love God - to turn their backs when she needed them the most.
I liked Tammy Faye and believe she was earnest in her walk. I will leave the rewards or punishment up to the One who sits on the throne - and that isn’t me!
What has happened is that denominations have stepped up (Roman Catholic only one) and presumed that if They Did Not Call On The Lord Their Way, then They Cannot Be Saved. Human pride all of it — and very despicable.
They’ve taken getting on the stairway to heaven and made it into a PhD rocket science problem.
Eventually she went on to start a Catholic charity/home for people out of prison with someone, became a Third Order Carmelite nun, so she was too busy for TBN.
Yeah, I also like to say that “becoming a Christian” doesn’t make you smart, right or even a theologian - but it does make you saved ... :-) ...
I do contend with a lot of the wrong teachings I hear “out there” - but I do realize that some of those who are in error about a lot of other teachings, may also be saved, according to what God has said about salvation.
AND ... for the record, I did not see that many of Paul Crouch’s statements and/or teachings were according to the Bible.
If TBN had been run a bit differently, it could have been awesome
To put in a good word for him, the network shows a lot of quality Christian movies uncut and commercial-free. I recall they had Mel Gibson’s “The Passion” running for several days last year during Holy Week.
The Catholic Church recognizes that non-Catholics can be saved, but that topic has been covered to death (pardon the pun) through the years on the Religion forum. Those threads seem more like an endless fight than a reasonable conversation.
I’ll just ask the Lord to give him eternal rest, and comfort his family.
No man man made religious pomp and ceremony will save from death.
Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
The Christian communities tend to be embarrassed by enthusiasm.
This isn’t about Tammy Faye anyhow. One could speculate that the homo groups fooled her in her moment of need. I think Christians underestimate the power of God to turn even sins to the future benefit of the sinner.
One thing rings in my mind. Jesus told the Pharisees that the prostitutes were getting into the kingdom of heaven before the Pharisees were. We will forgive a sinner of some sins, but not of other sins, because we have created a false dichotomy. And sometimes the dichotomy is based in our own hypocrisies — our failure to respond to the gospel call to express the positive grace that is visibly lacking in those we consider the condemnable set. Of course those other people have a responsibility to God to express that grace too, but till WE do it, how are we going to lead THEM to do it? We won’t.
And I have a bit of a hobby horse here. Christian America has flunked the “glorify God in your bodies” test. Big time. That is why they cannot help homos and fall on the false dichotomy of either excusing the sin or execrating the sinners as being only stoneworthy. As a former sex sinner (though not by buggery) I find this bugs me big time. God had to walk me personally to that grace, with a few moments of precious help from loving Christians who understood my burden. The rest of Christian America was, in the main, too busy being hypocrites about their sex lives!
Tammy Faye was a grifter. That’s why the homosexuals loved her. She celebrated her sin just they they do.
I appreciate the Church Channel which is part of TBN. The line-up on Sunday evening is excellent. As far as the Bakkers. I tune in each evening to the Jim Bakker Show on TCT. Find it quite informative.
There is an eternity for everyone. The question is where?
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