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How Obama’s failure will be felt here: Why Canada is ignoring the disaster of Obamacare
Maclean's ^ | November 28, 2013 | Colby Cosh

Posted on 11/30/2013 2:37:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

As best as I can judge from monitoring Twitter for about 20 hours out of every 24, which is my habit these days, few of this country’s big-time journalists are keeping a close eye on the Obamacare crisis in the United States. We are all caught, like flies in a spiderweb, in the evolving stories of Rob Ford and the Senate multi-scandal. Both are news files quite unusual in Canada, delivering little bomblets of fresh weirdness for months on end and on a basis that could be characterized as “daily, gusting to hourly.”

Or maybe these stories aren’t unusual; maybe it is just a matter of social media turning our existences as pundits into a sweaty, crowded hearth in which we all sit in a big circle and echo each other all day. I quite enjoy it, but a mind-pummelling stream of “FordSenateFordFordSenateFordNigelWrightFordFord” may not be healthy.

Is anyone, for example, looking for the international or even the Canadian angle on Obamacare? It is a disaster of such magnitude that it is easy to imagine it influencing politics in countries that take cues from America, which, the last time I checked, was about all of them, bar North Korea. It is one of Canada’s major national afflictions that most of us remain blazingly ignorant of health care policy and provision in any country but the U.S. Already one senses that the appetite for reform of physician care and health budgets in Canada has dwindled since, say, the 1990s.

Obamacare isn’t going to make major systemic change in either direction look more appetizing to Canadians. That’s an important Canadian angle right there. Not long ago it looked as though national pharmacare was likely to become an election issue here, quarterbacked by the NDP and perhaps the Liberals, too. The concept has plenty of support among economists and other health policy experts—the same class of kindly boffins that, in the U.S., lined up almost unanimously behind the Affordable Care Act.

For better or worse, nationalizing prescription-drug insurance seems likely to be a much tougher sell here in the immediate future. Any large, complex health care experiment will be. The more wise heads support it, the easier it will be for supporters of the status quo to shout, “Unintended consequences! Ivory-tower tomfoolery!” Indeed, political strategists may already be saying it to themselves.

American commentators are already starting to wonder if Obamacare’s difficult start and increasingly troubled prospects may end up as a victory for small-government conservatism. The problems for the program do not end with the calamitous state of the federal insurance-exchange website, or even with the nasty surprises handed to the self-employed and freelancers in the “individual market” who were falsely promised: “If you like your plan you can keep your plan.” Some Obamacare buyers are finding themselves shut out from their preferred doctors and hospitals; employers are junking non-compliant health plans; and many in the middle class who liked the Obamacare concept are facing sticker shock.

The U.S. is having some success in slowing the growth in its health spending thanks to some “cost-curve bending” measures already undertaken. (Penalizing hospitals under Medicare for repeat patient visits is a big one.) And Obamacare may end up being good for the country’s solvency even as it leaves millions angry. But the damage done to the prestige of “evidence-based” social engineering may already be permanent, especially given the impression of a calculated bait-and-switch on the part of planners.

The redistributive aspects of Obamacare were undersold, and possible pitfalls obviously not foreseen. The neoliberal Democrat Walter Russell Mead put it neatly the other day: “President Obama may be the Democrat who ends up convincing millions of American millennials that Ronald Reagan was right, and that the progressive administrative state is neither honest nor competent enough to solve the problems of the American people.” If that is the case, the effects cannot be confined to the U.S.

Barack Obama is a charismatic president who lacked executive experience but was, partly for reasons related to his ancestry, an attractive blank slate onto which young voters could project their dreams. He compensated for his shortcomings in political dues-paying by building a team of high-profile brainiacs like Steven Chu, Peter Orszag, and Austan Goolsbee. Am I wrong to detect resemblances with the Liberals’ Justin Trudeau victory plan? If Obama goes down as a failure, someone who peddled Hope and got in over his head, will our millennials think twice about casting a feel-good vote for an unknown quantity who fast-forwarded past the usual leadership training?


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: canada; obama; obamacare; socializedmedicine
Ouch!
1 posted on 11/30/2013 2:37:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
https://www.healthcare.gov
2 posted on 11/30/2013 2:40:34 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (What we said when we said what we said was. Period. End of story.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...
To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

3 posted on 11/30/2013 2:42:07 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He does overlook the little angle that CGI is a Canadian company that welcomed ValJar’s daughter and son-in-law as employees. I wonder, if our media somehow fails to explore that cozy bit of cronyism, does that mean theirs has to as well?


4 posted on 11/30/2013 2:46:37 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ive done what I could to ensure The Great Leaders....continung down the path he's...currently treading...by introducing him to my old pal JACK...




5 posted on 11/30/2013 2:48:38 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Romanians could tell you what to do with an Obama government.


6 posted on 11/30/2013 2:48:46 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Obama goes down as a failure, someone who peddled Hope and got in over his head, will our millennials think twice about casting a feel-good vote for an unknown quantity who fast-forwarded past the usual leadership training?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Millenials had better reject Justin Trudeau, Canada is just barely recovering economically after the Trudeau years of Pierre, and the subsequent generation of liberal machinations which ruined Canada economically.


7 posted on 11/30/2013 2:49:29 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The impact of ObamaCare will be fatal to Canada’s health care system.

The United States health care system subsidizes the costs of the Canadian system because AMerica provides a high compensation system for drugs , medical supplies and care which allows Canada to mandate very low price structures for their system below cost of the US market.

Once the lucrative American market is driven into the ground by ObamaCare, the Canadians will have to pay a much higher price for their medical system because the US system will not even be able support itself, much less subsidize Canada’s health care system


8 posted on 11/30/2013 2:51:23 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"He compensated for his shortcomings in political dues-paying by building a team of high-profile brainiacs...."

Fitting label. Brainiac was one of Superman's supervillains.



Brainiac imposes Obamacare on the citizens of the bottled city of Kandor.
9 posted on 11/30/2013 2:52:59 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

In some continuities, Brainiac was even more or less directly responsible for Krypton’s destruction.


10 posted on 11/30/2013 2:54:12 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: rdcbn

Another OUCH!


11 posted on 11/30/2013 3:04:22 PM PST by txhurl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I've done a fair amount of research on Canada's health care system,much of it on the official Provincial website of British Columbia (I think their system is managed by provinces).Among the many disturbing things I learned on that site is that there's at least one type of heart surgery...HEART SURGERY...for which Canadians can wait *six* months.Since the inception of Canada's current system,doctors and hospitals in the US have acted as a safety valve for Canadians unable,or unwilling,to wait weeks or months for vital tests and treatment.As a matter of fact there was a big story there a few years ago when one of their Provincial Premiers went not to Montreal,Toronto or Vancouver for his heart surgery but to the US.

When OsamaObamaCare kicks in and *we* start waiting six months for heart surgery Canadians should understand that US hospitals will be essentially closed off to them,thus making their system even *worse* than it is today.

12 posted on 11/30/2013 3:35:18 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Did 0bamaCare kill off that nice looking young woman who used to live there?


13 posted on 11/30/2013 3:37:24 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe Americans will start going to Canada for medical care?


14 posted on 11/30/2013 3:50:09 PM PST by wildbill
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To: wildbill

If I had the resources I’d start a medical tourism travel agency. That’s going to be HUGE!


15 posted on 11/30/2013 3:52:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I've noticed a new twist in some of my liberal friends on social media sites. If a story is not published in an ultra-liberal newspaper (AKA NYTimes or similar) then it is labeled as “propaganda against the President!” They are starting to lump everything in with Fox News as the “problem.”

ObamaCare is likely to shake Democrat/liberals faith to their very core.

16 posted on 11/30/2013 4:05:51 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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My brother and his wife--who are generally very liberal--refused to talk about Obamacare during Thanksgiving dinner. Given the horrible rollout of HealthCare.gov and many millions of Americans losing their current healthcare coverage, no wonder why they won't talk.
17 posted on 11/30/2013 4:13:17 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Oh, come on now. Williams went to Florida to have his surgery , not because of any lacking facility or expertise in Canada , rather his condo happened to be 6 blocks from Mount Sinai Medical Center in Miami. Where would you like to recover from having surgery in February., Florida or Newfoundland ?


18 posted on 11/30/2013 4:17:22 PM PST by Snowyman
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To: RayChuang88

I hope all LIBs/DIMs choke on their Clown Prince nobama sh** sandwich. Choke, you smug LIB/DIM clowns.


19 posted on 11/30/2013 4:21:22 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: Robert357

ObamaCare is likely to shake Democrat/liberals faith to their very core.


They just discovered they have a thick case of the intellectual CRABS.

Quite embarrassing, and requiring immediate action, but what? Change their whole world-view or just slump into political apathy? Whatever shall they do?


20 posted on 11/30/2013 4:40:43 PM PST by txhurl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Liz
From a friend -

So....my son goes on the ACA website to look at insurance. It seems he is married to his mother, and that his sister is his daughter. He is specifically, and listed as such, a Junior. Oh, but it gets more interesting......AARP sent HIM an application for membership. Now, why would that happen given that they had already sent me mine 4 years ago and I very sternly (in their prepaid envelope) declined?

Oh, my.

21 posted on 11/30/2013 4:41:35 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Libloather

Busted


22 posted on 11/30/2013 4:50:53 PM PST by txhurl
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